OT Outrage after two white Texas cops are pictured on horseback leading a handcuffed black homeless man

[riverman]

because the arrestee is black he should get to ride to jail in a limo.

yeah...bit different if he's tied to the back of the limo while they drive it eh? Excercising good judgement and speaking with human dignity is hardly cowing to the media but that's sort of #faketakeonhumanity
TRUMP FOR SENIOR DISABLED CAREHOME IN 2020....!

 

[julius]

I do love to see the fake outrage from the trio that always has bouts of fake outrage.

Oddly enough I don't think they will know I'm talking about them.

 

[CupWizier]

Yes. Just simple damage control for the overly sensitive masses.

Do you know the police chief? When have you spoken to him as otherwise your opinion why he said something is

I do love to see the fake outrage from the trio that always has bouts of fake outrage.

Oddly enough I don't think they will know I'm talking about them.

What's funny but sad is how low acceptable standards are for the trump supporters. They do mimic their leader.

 

[MarAzul]

Not everything is about you.

The fact that people will (and did) "over-react" to this pic is precisely the reason it shouldn't have occurred in the first place. Police departments across the country have the reputation of being racially inequitable at the very least. The ability of a police department to "protect and serve" their communities is largely dependent upon those communities' abilities to trust that the police will treat them fairly and respectfully. It is incumbent upon every person who represents any police department to ensure they do not engage in any behavior that damages that reputation. These officers failed in that responsibility.

I suspect you are partly correct here with this comment. But the word fail, stands out. Begging the question of fail in who's judgment?
Fail must be judged in the context of, for what do we have police departments?

Then note, that Galveston is not on the list here;

The 25 Most Dangerous Cities in the United States
Rank City State Violent Crime Rate (Per 100,000 People)
1 St. Louis Missouri 1,817.10
2 Detroit Michigan 1,759.60
3 Memphis Tennessee 1,740.10
4 Milwaukee Wisconsin 1,596.10
5 Baltimore Maryland 1,535.90
6 Oakland California 1,442.50
7 Kansas City Missouri 1,417.30
8 Stockton California 1,352.00
9 Cleveland* Ohio 1,334.30
10 Indianapolis Indiana 1,288.00
11 Washington District Of Columbia 1,202.60
12 Toledo Ohio 1,128.90
13 Atlanta Georgia 1,119.60
14 Buffalo New York 1,118.60
15 NashvilleMetropolitan Tennessee 1,101.00
16 Newark* New Jersey 1,077.70
17 Anchorage Alaska 1,070.90
18 Minneapolis Minnesota 1,062.90
19 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 1,029.00
20 Miami Florida 1,021.30
21 Wichita Kansas 984.8
22 Houston Texas 966.7
23 Albuquerque New Mexico 965.8
24 New Orleans Louisiana 949.6
25 Orlando Florida 940.6

I have seen people herded out of Central Park in NYC. And you can be sure, you best take care when being herded between two trained horses under the control of two trained NYPD mounted Police.
But then never see anyone herded in downtown Portland, where people crap all over the place. It is a damn disgusting jaunt from the nearest transit bus drop off to the Train station.
The old Greyhound station vicinity, close to the Train station is so figgin disgusting, that I expect is why the local Portland bus lines do not go there anymore..
Herding some of those dudes out there, should be a welcome improvement to anyone with any sense.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-united-states.html

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I suspect you are partly correct here with this comment. But the word fail, stands out. Begging the question of fail in who's judgment?
Fail must be judged in the context of, for what do we have police departments?

Then note, that Galveston is not on the list here;

The 25 Most Dangerous Cities in the United States
Rank City State Violent Crime Rate (Per 100,000 People)
1 St. Louis Missouri 1,817.10
2 Detroit Michigan 1,759.60
3 Memphis Tennessee 1,740.10
4 Milwaukee Wisconsin 1,596.10
5 Baltimore Maryland 1,535.90
6 Oakland California 1,442.50
7 Kansas City Missouri 1,417.30
8 Stockton California 1,352.00
9 Cleveland* Ohio 1,334.30
10 Indianapolis Indiana 1,288.00
11 Washington District Of Columbia 1,202.60
12 Toledo Ohio 1,128.90
13 Atlanta Georgia 1,119.60
14 Buffalo New York 1,118.60
15 NashvilleMetropolitan Tennessee 1,101.00
16 Newark* New Jersey 1,077.70
17 Anchorage Alaska 1,070.90
18 Minneapolis Minnesota 1,062.90
19 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 1,029.00
20 Miami Florida 1,021.30
21 Wichita Kansas 984.8
22 Houston Texas 966.7
23 Albuquerque New Mexico 965.8
24 New Orleans Louisiana 949.6
25 Orlando Florida 940.6

I have seen people herded out of Central Park in NYC. And you can be sure, you best take care when being herded between two trained horses under the control of two trained NYPD mounted Police.
But then never see anyone herded in downtown Portland, where people crap all over the place. It is a damn disgusting jaunt from the nearest transit bus drop off to the Train station.
The old Greyhound station vicinity, close to the Train station is so figgin disgusting, that I expect is why the local Portland bus lines do not go there anymore..
Herding some of those dudes out there, should be a welcome improvement to anyone with any sense.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-united-states.html

I specifically stated that they failed in their responsibility to represent their department well in public. No commentary on the effectiveness of their overall policing, especially in comparison to other cities. That list is irrelevant to and serves only to detract from the actual point I made, which is valid and still stands.

 

[julius]

I suspect you are partly correct here with this comment. But the word fail, stands out. Begging the question of fail in who's judgment?
Fail must be judged in the context of, for what do we have police departments?

Then note, that Galveston is not on the list here;

The 25 Most Dangerous Cities in the United States
Rank City State Violent Crime Rate (Per 100,000 People)
1 St. Louis Missouri 1,817.10
2 Detroit Michigan 1,759.60
3 Memphis Tennessee 1,740.10
4 Milwaukee Wisconsin 1,596.10
5 Baltimore Maryland 1,535.90
6 Oakland California 1,442.50
7 Kansas City Missouri 1,417.30
8 Stockton California 1,352.00
9 Cleveland* Ohio 1,334.30
10 Indianapolis Indiana 1,288.00
11 Washington District Of Columbia 1,202.60
12 Toledo Ohio 1,128.90
13 Atlanta Georgia 1,119.60
14 Buffalo New York 1,118.60
15 NashvilleMetropolitan Tennessee 1,101.00
16 Newark* New Jersey 1,077.70
17 Anchorage Alaska 1,070.90
18 Minneapolis Minnesota 1,062.90
19 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 1,029.00
20 Miami Florida 1,021.30
21 Wichita Kansas 984.8
22 Houston Texas 966.7
23 Albuquerque New Mexico 965.8
24 New Orleans Louisiana 949.6
25 Orlando Florida 940.6

I have seen people herded out of Central Park in NYC. And you can be sure, you best take care when being herded between two trained horses under the control of two trained NYPD mounted Police.
But then never see anyone herded in downtown Portland, where people crap all over the place. It is a damn disgusting jaunt from the nearest transit bus drop off to the Train station.
The old Greyhound station vicinity, close to the Train station is so figgin disgusting, that I expect is why the local Portland bus lines do not go there anymore..
Herding some of those dudes out there, should be a welcome improvement to anyone with any sense.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-united-states.html

Wait, isn't Chicago supposed to be a violent city?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Do you know the police chief? When have you spoken to him as otherwise your opinion why he said something is

Yes, the police chief is my brother.

 

[illmatic99]

On the one hand, they're on horses so it's not like they have a back seat. BUT, and this is a huge but, why would they have thought "oh hey, you know Bob, instead of calling in backup with a car, let's just have the guy walk with us, while we lead him with a rope".

The optics of that image are just brutal. Clueless cops. What else is new

 

[riverman]

Yes, the police chief is my brother.

You're in the Village People?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Wait, isn't Chicago supposed to be a violent city?

Apparently they outsourced all their violence north to Milwaukee.

 

[CupWizier]

Wait, isn't Chicago supposed to be a violent city?

He posted the alternative facts list. Didn't you get the memo? Trump ended all the murders in Chicago just like he promised.

 

[illmatic99]

Wait, isn't Chicago supposed to be a violent city?

Apparently they outsourced all their violence north to Milwaukee.

Prolly has something to do with the population being so high. Raw# of crimes might be higher but not when normalized for 100,000 people as this list is doing.

 

[e_blazer]

Wait, isn't Chicago supposed to be a violent city?

It varies a lot by neighborhood. For a big city like Chicago, overall violence statistics may not look bad because there are many areas where violence rates are low. Go into the poor areas on the south side and it's a totally different story.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Chicago is very safe and clean, for areas I stay in.

Uber driver said stay the fuck outta the south side.

 

[CupWizier]

It varies a lot by neighborhood. For a big city like Chicago, overall violence statistics may not look bad because there are many areas where violence rates are low. Go into the poor areas on the south side and it's a totally different story.

Yep, that's pretty much true for many big cities as there are good and bad neighborhoods in most cities.

 

[CupWizier]

Yes, the police chief is my brother.

I just emailed him and he says he never heard of you???????

 

[MarAzul]

That list is irrelevant to and serves only to detract from the actual point I made, which is valid and still stands.

Yes, your point does still stand. But the list is not irrelevant and I did intend to detract. The reason being the perception of the observer of the effectiveness of the Police should be balanced between feel good perception and effectiveness of the force.
Better yet, the local civilians need to have sufficient effective local control of their police force so that training is implemented when needed due to continuous oversight. So that effectiveness can be coexist with sensitive appearance.
The feel good must be a partner with logic, to meet the need of all. But then, you already knew this.

 

[MarAzul]

Apparently they outsourced all their violence north to Milwaukee.

Seems something is wrong with the list.

 

[MarAzul]

Prolly has something to do with the population being so high. Raw# of crimes might be higher but not when normalized for 100,000 people as this list is doing.

Or South Chicago is drastically muted by the shear size of the rest of the City.

 

[MarAzul]

Chicago is very safe and clean, for areas I stay in.

Uber driver said stay the fuck outta the south side.

The last time I was in Chicago, the Police would not let me walk more that a few blocks south of the lakeside boulevard my hotel was on. Is that Michigan Ave.?

 

[MarAzul]

Wait, isn't Chicago supposed to be a violent city?

Only a guess, but maybe if South Chicago were a City, it would indeed make the list.

 

[Lanny]

If you've ever been to New Orleans they herd everyone with a horse regardless of race. The horse patrol is no different than motorcycle or squad car, or foot patrol, they all want to justify their existence by being used.
These guys could have been more sensitive, i guess, but people are also over re-acting to pc & images on the net. There is over sensory reactions going on too.
They would have been escorting a white guy on a horse too, if he was being arrested, just wouldn't have gotten the same reaction on the net.

Why would they 'herd' a mentally ill person?

 

[Hoopguru]

Why would they 'herd' a mentally ill person?

Cops on horses shouldn't be herding anyone, imo. However, they do in cities that use horse patrol. Ive seen it with my own eyes.