Pac-10 Extend Invite to Utah

[BrianFromWA]

Yeah, USC was saying that it's closer from LA to Boulder than it is from LA to Seattle or Pullman.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Schools would have to be in the same division as their in-state rival. If Colorado was somehow guaranteed to be with the Cali schools then it would be the NW plus Arizona. I just assumed they would pair Cali up with AZ/ASU.

Why would they, if they get to play them each year in a rivalry game?

 

[Draco]

I think it will be

Ore
OSU
Wash
WSU
Cal
Stan

USC
UCLA
ARI
ASU
Col
Uta

I would like this much better for my Beavs, but could they really break up Cali? Those would be more even divisions.

 

[Draco]

Why would they, if they get to play them each year in a rivalry game?

I just don't see them doing something that wild and radical, having every conference rival be in a seperate division.... Not to mention you could have the Oregon/Washington/AZ/Cali schools all play each other one week then meet again the next week in the conference championship game???

What do you do about the other 5 teams outside your division, play 2 of them? That means there is one team you play only once every three years.... But if you play 3 of the 5 then your playing up to 10 conference games which is more then I see happening.

 

[Draco]

Ok well while we’re at it thinking of radical ideas how about this….. have 3 divisions:

Division 1 - Northwest
Oregon
Oregon St
Washington
Washington St

Division 2 - Cali schools
Stanford
Cal
USC
UCLA

Division 3 - New guys
AZ
ASU
Colorado
Utes

Top2 division winners meet in conference championship game. Yeah sucks to be 3rd place division winner... but hey you still go to a decent bowl game.

You play 3 of the 4 teams in the other two divisions. So over 8 years you still get USC/UCLA to come to town 3 times instead of the current 4, which isn't a huge change.

 

[Draco]

I think it will be

Ore
OSU
Wash
WSU
Cal
Stan

USC
UCLA
ARI
ASU
Col
Uta

Well I did just hear this is what they’re thinking of going with... that’s cool I like this setup. It does make some travel sense.

I do wonder what’s going to happen with USC and the conference title game. If they are eligible to play for it but are banned from postseason play then you could end up with a situation where the loser of the conference game goes to the Rose Bowl???

 

[BrianFromWA]

probably just like the pac-10 basketball tourney last year...they just weren't invited to the champ game,

 

[Mediocre Man]

Well I did just hear this is what they’re thinking of going with... that’s cool I like this setup. It does make some travel sense.

I do wonder what’s going to happen with USC and the conference title game. If they are eligible to play for it but are banned from postseason play then you could end up with a situation where the loser of the conference game goes to the Rose Bowl???

I have to wonder how the NW schools signed off on this to be honest. I would be oissed if I wasn't getting a game in SoCal every year for recruiting purposes.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

I have to wonder how the NW schools signed off on this to be honest. I would be oissed if I wasn't getting a game in SoCal every year for recruiting purposes.

If you play a 10-game or even 9-game pac 12 sched, you should be able to guarentee every school in the north at least a game with either USC or UCLA

 

[<-=*PdX*=->]

I am very anxious to see what sort of divisions they come up with. Reportedly, Colorado was guaranteed a spot in the same division as the So Cal schools.

I think losing the yearly games in So Cal will hurt recuiting a bit, so I hope they can come up with a plan to fix that, and even it out a bit.

Here is my proposal.

Division 1

Oregon
Wash
Cal
UCLA
Arizona
Utah

Division 2

Ore St
Wash St
Stan
USC
Arizona St
Col


Play each team in your division once, and your in state rival once. Then 2 more schools from the other division and 3 non conference games. That way Oregon gets to play Wash and Ore ST each year, and so on for the other schools

This is called the "zipper" alignment from what I have seen from other blogs and it would work and make plenty of sense. You are guaranteed to play all teams in your division, plus your rival, each year, then 3 teams from the other division on a rotating schedule. It would make THE most sense of any of the said proposals.

 

[Eastoff]

This is called the "zipper" alignment from what I have seen from other blogs and it would work and make plenty of sense. You are guaranteed to play all teams in your division, plus your rival, each year, then 3 teams from the other division on a rotating schedule. It would make THE most sense of any of the said proposals.

except from a travel stand point.

 

[Draco]

except from a travel stand point.

Yeah, I don't see a division setup where we play Washington schools every other year being feasible.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I suppose the simplest plan would be to line up the schools in a north/south alignment. WASH schools. ORE schools and NoCal schools in one, the others in the other. Then split the geograghical schools in half so teams would play against a team in that region yearly, with 3 non divisional conference games. This way, if you take Oregon for example, their schedule would look something like

Non Conference
Non Conference
Non Conference
Non Conference
@Cal
Wasu
Col
@USC
@UW
Stan
@ASU
OSU

To simplify for my feeble mind I will use the same dates. Then the following year

Non
Non
Non
Non
Cal
@Wasu
@Uta
UCLA
UW
@stan
UA
@OSU

Then flip the home and away games from the first season in season 3, and then flip the home and away games from the second season. Repeat every year thereafter.

That way you play every team in the conference every other year, and if you count Colorado and Utah as the same market, you get a game against each tv/recruiting market each year (Utah and Colorado would of course not be the same tv market, but same region) and you get a game in each recruiting market every other year.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/pac10/2010/06/as_the_pac-10_becomes_the_pac-.html

 

[Mediocre Man]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/pac10/2010/06/as_the_pac-10_becomes_the_pac-.html

My plan above makes the most sense. I liked the zipper option, but after reading some things about it in the ACC forums, I am not a fan. They all hate it because no one ever seems to know who is in what conference throughout the country.

North/South or East/West. Either way my schedule provides a way for teams to stay relevant throughout the conference territories. At least this way you are playing every region, every year. And every team, every other year.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

^^ I like your idea.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think it will be a 9 game conference schedule

 

[GOBlazersGOBeavers]

Here's a good article about the situation. Sounds like all the options are on the table.

"We know what [Colorado] wants," Scott said. "[The North-South split] is not part of our contract [with Colorado]."

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/...-divided-what-will-pac-10-divisions-look-like

 

[Entity]

I propose a crazy alignment if we're willing to split up rivals. Change the divisions each year based on previous year's results. Doesn't necessarily guarantee division parity, but slightly better than set divisions would (see Big XII North). Each sport is unaffected by the other:

1st
4th
5th
8th
9th
12th

2nd
3rd
6th
7th
10th
11th

So based on last year (pretending that Utah and Colorado's records reflect Pac-10 play), divisions would look like:

Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
Washington
UCLA
Washington State

Utah
Arizona
USC
Cal
Arizona State
Colorado

 

[Entity]

Interesting facts:

Utah has won nine consecutive bowl games, two of them against Pac-10 teams, and are the last football team to beat Alabama, the current National Champions.

 

[Minstrel]

I propose a crazy alignment if we're willing to split up rivals. Change the divisions each year based on previous year's results. Doesn't necessarily guarantee division parity, but slightly better than set divisions would (see Big XII North). Each sport is unaffected by the other:

1st
4th
5th
8th
9th
12th

2nd
3rd
6th
7th
10th
11th

So based on last year (pretending that Utah and Colorado's records reflect Pac-10 play), divisions would look like:

Oregon
Oregon State
Stanford
Washington
UCLA
Washington State

Utah
Arizona
USC
Cal
Arizona State
Colorado

Seems like a less radical way to achieve something similar is to ditch conferences and simply set up the schedules based on last year's records to give everyone similar schedule strength. With some schedule tinkering (when needed) to also have teams play as many different teams as possible over a two-season span.