Papag contacted me, here's the exchange.

[Further]

Latest update. Papag contacted me requesting to come back and talk Blazers. I'm good with papag if that matters.

You put me in time out, and I respect it. NateBishop3 in the thread he started about my banning, stated that I brought up the past, yet I keep hearing about the "AirSoft" stuff years later, even from NateBishop3. That was given as the main reason for my banning.

It would also have been nice to let me know that there were serious discussions on the mod site about banning me, without really giving me any notice after I received that PM from Further. I admit, having him call me "a horrible person devoid of" character and content set me off that night, which is why I posted it on the main board. I know plenty of people personally on this site, and none of them would say I'm a "horrible person", so I went on a drunken rampage. I thought it was uncalled for, and expressed as much to Further, and we apologized to each other. I think we're good at this point.

I won't bring up the past anymore if posters are warned about doing likewise. It seems one-sided to be taunted about something that happened 3 years ago, even by the person who did it, and not be able to respond.

I ask back because I enjoy this place, and my banning had nothing to do with my actual posts about the Blazers, which is the point of this board.

A fresh start becomes obvious, and the new name becomes a distraction. Open a "slam PapaG" thread in OT, let posters get their frustrations out on me, and move forward. Hiding behind another name seems a bit secretive, unless you want me to put in my signature that I am PapaG. I've been a positive influence on Blazer boards for 15 years now under the name that never got banned, except for the one time I literally asked for it. I've been to Blazer board functions over the years, I've paid up on bets, and I've done so knowing that there are posters who will never reveal their true identities to anyone.

 

[THE HCP]

Let him come back! But I think we should all vote what his name/avatar should be.


Sent from my baller ass iPhone 5 FAMS!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Nah. Fuck that noize son.

hoop fam

 

[Further]

Is there a way to make it so anyone could edit his posts?


Hahaha, that would be a riot.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Bring him back.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Bring him back.

But I do like HCP's idea that we get to choose his avatar.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Forgive and forget.

Free PapaG!

 

[tlongII]

I agree. Bring him back. And we get to choose his avatar.

 

[magnifier661]

Free the goonies!!!!!

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

You're already free, Mags.

 

[e_blazer]

Bring back the Papa G spot.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'd like to solicit opinions about PMs and privacy. This thread started with one poster posting a PM he received from another.

Current site policy, though maybe not written anywhere, is that you are free to use PMs without fear that anyone on the staff will access and read them. There are reasonable exceptions to this, like if the recipient asks us to, if I have to debug the site software, or if we are served a search warrant.

I admit I have seen others' PMs, but only in the case they were reported to me by the recipient as spam.

That said, we've not really had to deal with the issue of privacy between sender and recipient. That is, should PapaG have reasonable expectations that his PMs would not be made public! Or is the PM in essence owned by Further and it is his right to post it?

My inclination is the latter - caveat sender. However, posting the sender's private/personal info received in a PM (or that PM in its entirety), would not be allowed.

In the spirit of openness and we run this site together, I seek your feedback.

Thanks.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Wait. I thought it was a Nerf gun?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Already? I thought he would last longer than this.

Sent from my banana using Tapatalk 4

 

[Sedatedfork]

If he comes back, shall we submit our avatar suggestions here?

Here's mine

And as for whether to allow disclosure of PM's, I say it's okay to allow. The last thing we need is S2 members sexting with one another.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Papa G sent these same PMs to myself and some of the other mods last night. I didn't realize he also had sent them to Further also.

I'm not against giving back him back his old moniker. Just not at this time. He was banned for one reason and one reason only, personal insults. In reading his PMs I just don't think he understands that.

I'm reading excuses out of him, Nate did this, Further said that, drunken rampage, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Then he makes demands that I'm suppose to warn all of you that you're not suppose to bring up the past to him. I read that and my first question is after I warn everyone of that and they do bring up the past then what? Does that mean it's ok for PapaG start insulting people again?

Next he comes up with the idea that we should have a slam PapaG thread. WTF?!? He was banned for refusing to stop with the personal insults and his solution is to start a thread that personally insults him?!?

I'm not trying to bash him. I like him and we've gotten along for the most part. I have no problem sometime in the future going to bat for him to reinstate his PapaG moniker. Because that's what this is really about, reinstatement of a moniker. If we were really banning him he wouldn't be able to PM us. We'd just ban whatever new moniker he created.

PapaG, I know you'll read this. If you want your old PapaG moniker back then I suggest you leave all of the excuses behind and just move forward. Post in the Blazer section under your new moniker. Talk Blazers and basketball. If after 50, 100, 200 posts you show that you can post without personally insulting people you disagree with then I'm fine with giving you your moniker back.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'd like to solicit opinions about PMs and privacy. This thread started with one poster posting a PM he received from another.

Current site policy, though maybe not written anywhere, is that you are free to use PMs without fear that anyone on the staff will access and read them. There are reasonable exceptions to this, like if the recipient asks us to, if I have to debug the site software, or if we are served a search warrant.

I admit I have seen others' PMs, but only in the case they were reported to me by the recipient as spam.

That said, we've not really had to deal with the issue of privacy between sender and recipient. That is, should PapaG have reasonable expectations that his PMs would not be made public! Or is the PM in essence owned by Further and it is his right to post it?

My inclination is the latter - caveat sender. However, posting the sender's private/personal info received in a PM (or that PM in its entirety), would not be allowed.

In the spirit of openness and we run this site together, I seek your feedback.

Thanks.

IRL, we have the option to speak directly with another person if we desire to communicate but not have that communication saved and subsequently reproduced. In this medium, such option doesn't exist. If we want an "anything you say can and will be used against you" atmosphere, then so be it, but I am of the opinion that absent agreement from both parties, private messages should remain private.

 

[Natebishop3]

My opinion on PM's is that they should remain private. If one person publicly posts the contents of a PM, I believe it is within the rights of the other person to ask a mod to edit it out.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

And as for whether to allow disclosure of PM's, I say it's okay to allow. The last thing we need is S2 members sexting with one another.

Yeah, if it gets to that point, they should be doing through their phones, not through S2 PM's. You know Sly scans for such things.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

My opinion on PM's is that they should remain private. If one person publicly posts the contents of a PM, I believe it is within the rights of the other person to ask a mod to edit it out.

My agreement with this statement is the only thing keeping me from posting the naked photos you PM'd me, Nate.

 

[tlongII]

I'd like to solicit opinions about PMs and privacy. This thread started with one poster posting a PM he received from another.

Current site policy, though maybe not written anywhere, is that you are free to use PMs without fear that anyone on the staff will access and read them. There are reasonable exceptions to this, like if the recipient asks us to, if I have to debug the site software, or if we are served a search warrant.

I admit I have seen others' PMs, but only in the case they were reported to me by the recipient as spam.

That said, we've not really had to deal with the issue of privacy between sender and recipient. That is, should PapaG have reasonable expectations that his PMs would not be made public! Or is the PM in essence owned by Further and it is his right to post it?

My inclination is the latter - caveat sender. However, posting the sender's private/personal info received in a PM (or that PM in its entirety), would not be allowed.

In the spirit of openness and we run this site together, I seek your feedback.

Thanks.

My feedback is "I don't care."

 

[Denny Crane]

IRL, we have the option to speak directly with another person if we desire to communicate but not have that communication saved and subsequently reproduced. In this medium, such option doesn't exist. If we want an "anything you say can and will be used against you" atmosphere, then so be it, but I am of the opinion that absent agreement from both parties, private messages should remain private.

The reality is that until now, nobody's posted a PM like this. That is good indication that people do treat the privacy aspect with respect.

In fact, it seems the PMs posted to start this thread were intended to be made public.

FWIW

 

[Natebishop3]

My agreement with this statement is the only thing keeping me from posting the naked photos you PM'd me, Nate.

Sorry bro, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but I'm not actually a 20 year old super model. I appreciate you paying my rent though.

Cheers!

 

[Natebishop3]

The reality is that until now, nobody's posted a PM like this. That is good indication that people do treat the privacy aspect with respect.

In fact, it seems the PMs posted to start this thread were intended to be made public.

FWIW

Well, that's actually how the whole thing started though. PapaG posting the PM's that Further sent him.

I might be wrong, but I think PapaG has posted PM's I've sent him a number of times. Actually, I know for a fact that he's done it.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Sorry bro, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but I'm not actually a 20 year old super model. I appreciate you paying my rent though.

Cheers!

Rent? I thought I was paying your Stanford tuition?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Well, that's actually how the whole thing started though. PapaG posting the PM's that Further sent him.

I might be wrong, but I think PapaG has posted PM's I've sent him a number of times. Actually, I know for a fact that he's done it.

I was going to mention this. Nate's right on this one.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The reality is that until now, nobody's posted a PM like this. That is good indication that people do treat the privacy aspect with respect.

In fact, it seems the PMs posted to start this thread were intended to be made public.

FWIW

I have no problem with the PM's in this thread being disclosed, for the very reason you stated. Agreed upon by both parties.

I generally fall on the side of personal responsibility and mutual respect. I wouldn't send a PM that I wouldn't be comfortable with others seeing, and I wouldn't post a PM that the other person wasn't comfortable being made public. But if a general rule were to be instituted, mutual agreement would be my preference.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I'd be for bringing PapaG back as long as he's also banned from the OT forum permanently. If he wants to talk basketball, let him... but only basketball. Dude gets worked up enough talking Blazers; he'll just flame out again in the OT section.

 

[Eastoff]

I'd be for bringing PapaG back as long as he's also banned from the OT forum permanently. If he wants to talk basketball, let him... but only basketball. Dude gets worked up enough talking Blazers; he'll just flame out again in the OT section.

Maybe like Mixum where he has to disappear in the off season excluding draft week, summer league, pre-season.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Maybe like Mixum where he has to disappear in the off season excluding draft week, summer league, pre-season.

Hell, I'm practically ready to put myself in that boat too... this OT forum is pure bile, but I get sucked in because it's people I know who are throwing the feces.