Paris Shootings and Bombings

[barfo]

Tho the source is brytbart, I did veryfy the murder fygures.

Fyxed that fyor you.

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

No, the data is from 2012 so according to you it's shit.

It's more reliable than trying to compare one that has no date, to that 9 years to another 5 years ago. Your link had shit from all dates and misinformation. It was a major clusterfuck. Sorry... Just being honest dude.

 

[magnifier661]

Not saying it doesn't but Mags and Marazul didn't even bother to check. The numbers are bad enough on their own, why exaggerate them by 3x?

You mean like when you said that no republican would call out Saudi Arabia for not taking in Syrian Refugees?

 

[magnifier661]

Then again, sly supports a candidate that blames Isis on global warming, er uh Climate Change...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It's more reliable than trying to compare one that has no date, to that 9 years to another 5 years ago. Your link had shit from all dates and misinformation. It was a major clusterfuck. Sorry... Just being honest dude.

What data was wrong? You're saying that chart has misinformation. Which data is wrong?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Then again, sly supports a candidate that blames Isis on global warming, er uh Climate Change...

View attachment 6661

Once again you're lying. I've never said I'm for Sanders. I'm not afraid of him like you are. I'm not going to lie about him like you do. I will read his positions and consider them. Just like I do with Trump and other candidates. I'm an informed voter while you're an emotional voter. There is nothing wrong with being an emotional voter, it's just good that you vote.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You mean like when you said that no republican would call out Saudi Arabia for not taking in Syrian Refugees?

Yup, I was wrong about that. Good for Trump.

 

[magnifier661]

Once again you're lying. I've never said I'm for Sanders. I'm not afraid of him like you are. I'm not going to lie about him like you do. I will read his positions and consider them. Just like I do with Trump and other candidates. I'm an informed voter while you're an emotional voter. There is nothing wrong with being an emotional voter, it's just good that you vote.

What part of what I said was lying? Did he not say that Climate Change is the reason we have ISIS?

 

[magnifier661]

What data was wrong? You're saying that chart has misinformation. Which data is wrong?

Look at the chart... Method include: Mixed years, (incomplete), 2006, 2009, 2012, 2011. Just to name a few. More importantly, the incomplete and mixed years should be taken off completely.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

What part of what I said was lying? Did he not say that Climate Change is the reason we have ISIS?

I was referring to your multiple statements and memes about communism and socialism being the same.

But if you want to know where Sanders got his Climate Change and Isis information from it came from the director of National Intelligence.

According to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, "Extreme weather, climate change, and public policies that affect food and water supplies will probably create or exacerbate humanitarian crises and instability risks." The Department of Defense says that climate change "poses immediate risks to US national security" and has the potential to exacerbate terrorism. There's also substantial evidence that drought linked to climate change helped spark Syria's civil war.

http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Unclassified_2015_ATA_SFR_-_SASC_FINAL.pdf

 

[MarAzul]

You're the one who wants to allow anyone, criminal, terrorist, illegal alien to buy a gun.

I think there most definitely are people who should be denied and deprived of weapons. The vast majority of Americans and law enforcement agree with this.

Wow! Not only did you deflect the real issue, Now you are lying like hell. The bull shit you post above is a bad as the time you posted I threatened to burn someone's house down.
You never saw me post any thing of the kind, nor did I post about wanting criminal, terrorist or illegal aliens to buy a gun.

Can not trust you to get a damn thing right. But I did finally figure out that I mistyped your character type. I mistook you for a logical guy, so I had you as a T. It comes through
now though.

 

[barfo]

nor did I post about wanting criminal, terrorist or illegal aliens to buy a gun.

Of course you didn't, you just give them the guns for free.

I heard someone fart

Quick, take a couple of automatic weapons!

I smelled it too

You'll need more firepower then, here

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Wow! Not only did you deflect the real issue, Now you are lying like hell. The bull shit you post above is a bad as the time you posted I threatened to burn someone's house down.
You never saw me post any thing of the kind, nor did I post about wanting criminal, terrorist or illegal aliens to buy a gun.

Can not trust you to get a damn thing right. But I did finally figure out that I mistyped your character type. I mistook you for a logical guy, so I had you as a T. It comes through
now though.

You are against any and all background checks.

 

[MarAzul]

You are against any and all background checks.

You don't have that right either, weird! You didn't see that posted either, but you post it as if you did.

We need a mod that banns liars.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

You don't have that right either, weird! You didn't see that posted either, but you post it as if you did.

We need a mod that banns liars.

What right? Are you for or against background checks?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Good show Fur. You get it. I think there are two classes exiting the middle east, Christians and economically deprived Muslims The Christians are the only ones that should be treated as refugees and then only if you can verify there are indeed Christians. The Muslims of fighting age, should armed and trained to go battle ISIS. The rest sent to an internment camp that perhaps the world needs to create, maybe in Libya or the like.

Islam is a Religion and a political party. Not all members of Islam are members of the party, but nearly all party members come from the members of the Religion. We are at war with the Party of Islam! They have declared Jihad against the western Nations and the word in our language is War and we damn well better understand we must destroy the Party of Islam. Not up lift them, there is no help on earth we can provide. Elimination is the only answer. It is not justice we must seek, we must seek the elimination by destruction of the Party of Islam. There is no other course.

The Muslim refugees can help do what must be done. It is their duty just as much as it is ours.

Is there a blood test for that now?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Is there a blood test for that now?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...fNXUPsO6FR8V1f_nA&sig2=DrlQPRVvWStu1KppHdzyZQ

 

[Nikolokolus]

If want to know where you're going its sometimes helpful to know how you got here.

Knowing nothing about the publication except that its a Vancouver B.C. weekly, I thought this was quite good
http://www.straight.com/news/420321...lown-and-why-islamists-want-western-countries

 

[SlyPokerDog]

If want to know where you're going its sometimes helpful to know how you got here.

Knowing nothing about the publication except that its a Vancouver B.C. weekly, I thought this was quite good
http://www.straight.com/news/420321...lown-and-why-islamists-want-western-countries

I don't agree with everything said but it's an important perspective that needs to be understood and discussed.

I'm tired of the middle east. I don't want our troops there. I want the US out of there.

Thanks for posting that.

 

[MarAzul]

If want to know where you're going its sometimes helpful to know how you got here.

Knowing nothing about the publication except that its a Vancouver B.C. weekly, I thought this was quite good
http://www.straight.com/news/420321...lown-and-why-islamists-want-western-countries

"Climate change, climate change, climate change,"

Fuck! What a moron! Not even kind enough to put the subject up front.

 

[MarAzul]

What right? Are you for or against background checks?

 

[MARIS61]

I was referring to your multiple statements and memes about communism and socialism being the same.

But if you want to know where Sanders got his Climate Change and Isis information from it came from the director of National Intelligence.

According to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, "Extreme weather, climate change, and public policies that affect food and water supplies will probably create or exacerbate humanitarian crises and instability risks." The Department of Defense says that climate change "poses immediate risks to US national security" and has the potential to exacerbate terrorism. There's also substantial evidence that drought linked to climate change helped spark Syria's civil war.

http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Unclassified_2015_ATA_SFR_-_SASC_FINAL.pdf

So we can be fairly certain it's nothing but bullshit and lying propaganda.

Two U.S. representatives accused Clapper of perjury for telling a Congressional committee in March 2013, that the NSA does not collect any type of data at all on millions of Americans. One senator asked for his resignation, and a group of 26 senators complained about Clapper's responses under questioning. Media observers have described Clapper as having lied under oath, having obstructed justice, and having given false testimony.

False testimony to Congress on NSA surveillance programs

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Excerpt of James Clapper's testimony before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
On March 12, 2013, during a United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence hearing, Senator Ron Wyden quoted the keynote speech at the 2012 DEF CON by the director of the NSA, Keith B. Alexander. Alexander had stated that "Our job is foreign intelligence" and that "Those who would want to weave the story that we have millions or hundreds of millions of dossiers on people, is absolutely false…From my perspective, this is absolute nonsense." Senator Wyden then asked Clapper, "Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?" He responded "No, sir." Wyden asked "It does not?" and Clapper said "Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly."[29]

When Edward Snowden was asked during his January 26, 2014 TV interview in Moscow what the decisive moment was or why he blew the whistle, he replied: "Sort of the breaking point was seeing the Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, directly lie under oath to Congress. … Seeing that really meant for me there was no going back."[30]

Admission and responses
On June 6, 2013 Director Clapper released a statement admitting the NSA collects telephony metadata on millions of Americans telephone calls.[31] This metadata information included originating and terminating telephone number, telephone calling card number, International Mobile Station Equipment Identity (IMEI) number, time, and duration of phone calls, but did not include the name, address or financial information of any subscriber.[32]

On June 7, 2013, Clapper was interviewed by Andrea Mitchell on NBC. Clapper said that "I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful manner by saying no" when he testified.[33]

On June 12, 2013, United States House of Representatives member Justin Amash became the first Congressman to openly accuse Director Clapper of criminal perjury, and calling for his resignation. In a series of tweets he stated: "It now appears clear that the director of national intelligence, James Clapper, lied under oath to Congress and the American people," and "Perjury is a serious crime ... [and] Clapper should resign immediately,"[34] Senator Rand Paul said "The director of national intelligence, in March, did directly lie to Congress, which is against the law."[35] Paul later suggested that Clapper might deserve prison time for his testimony.[36]

On June 27, 2013 a group of 26 senators sent him a complaint letter opposing the use of a "body of secret law".[37][38] On July 1, 2013, Clapper issued an apology, saying that "My response was clearly erroneous – for which I apologize."[39] On July 2, Clapper said that he had forgotten about the Patriot Act and therefore had given an "erroneous" answer.[40]

The journalist Glenn Greenwald accused the media in the U.S. of focusing on Edward Snowden instead of focusing on wrongdoing by Clapper and other U.S. officials.[41] Jody Westby of Forbes argued that due to the revelations, the American public should ask Clapper to resign from office, arguing that "Not only did Mr. Clapper give false testimony to Congress, even his June 6 statement was false. We now know — since the companies identified by the Washington Post have started fessing up — that lots more than telephony metadata has been collected and searched."[42] Fred Kaplan of Slate also advocated having Clapper fired, arguing "if President Obama really welcomes an open debate on this subject, James Clapper has disqualified himself from participation in it. He has to go."[43] Andy Greenberg of Forbes said that NSA officials along with Clapper, in the years 2012 and 2013 "publicly denied–often with carefully hedged words–participating in the kind of snooping on Americans that has since become nearly undeniable."[29] John Dean, former White House Counsel for President Nixon, has claimed that it is unlikely Clapper would be charged with the three principal criminal statutes that address false statements to Congress: perjury, obstruction of Congress, and making false statements.[44] David Sirota of Salon said that if the U.S. government fails to treat Clapper and Alexander in the same way as it did Roger Clemens, "the message from the government would be that lying to Congress about baseball is more of a felony than lying to Congress about Americans’ Fourth Amendment rights" and that the "message would declare that when it comes to brazen law-breaking, as long as you are personally connected to the president, you get protection rather than the prosecution you deserve."[45]

On December 19, 2013 seven Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee called on attorney general Eric Holder to investigate Clapper, saying that "witnesses cannot be allowed to lie to Congress."[46] In January 2014, Robert Litt, the general counsel to the Office of the DNI, stated that Clapper did not lie to Congress,[47] and in May 2015 clarified that Clapper "had absolutely forgotten the existence of" section 215 of the Patriot Act.[48]

In January 2014, six members of the House of Representatives wrote[49] to President Obama urging him to dismiss Clapper for lying to Congress,[50][51] but were rebuffed by the White House.[52] Caitlin Hayden, a White House spokesperson, said in an e-mailed statement that Obama has "full faith in Director Clapper’s leadership of the intelligence community. The Director has provided an explanation for his answers to Senator Wyden and made clear that he did not intend to mislead the Congress."

 

[Nikolokolus]

"Climate change, climate change, climate change,"

Fuck! What a moron! Not even kind enough to put the subject up front.

Of course that was your main take-away. Chrissakes.

 

[PDXFonz]

It looks to me like slypokerdog advanced his rook, you seem to be the one knocking over the board. But what would I know, I'm just another pigeon.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[magnifier661]

There are 15 states that said they will not take in Syrian Refugees. Don't know how this will stick though.

 

[e_blazer]

There are 15 states that said they will not take in Syrian Refugees. Don't know how this will stick though.

I think we can count on the Browns (Jerry and Kate) to make sure that California and Oregon receive enough extras to make up the difference.

 

[e_blazer]

I don't agree with everything said but it's an important perspective that needs to be understood and discussed.

I'm tired of the middle east. I don't want our troops there. I want the US out of there.

Thanks for posting that.

We didn't have any troops there on 9/11. Our desire not to step in shit doesn't mean somebody won't pick it up and throw it at us.

Just saying.

 

[Denny Crane]

We didn't have any troops there on 9/11. Our desire not to step in shit doesn't mean somebody won't pick it up and throw it at us.

Just saying.

We had troops in Saudi Arabia.

 

[e_blazer]

We had troops in Saudi Arabia.

You're right. We had 5,500 troops in Saudi Arabia and another 4,000 in Kuwait at the end of Clinton's last term. Still, the point remains that the extremists need a "villain" to rant against in order to promote their cause. Pretty much the way it always works.