OT Passengers On Pennsylvania Train Watch Woman Get Raped, Do Nothing

[Chris Craig]

right. So her saying she pretty much called it disgusting and omitting her male perversion.
Nate pushed back on it. I believe he was the only one and hade some valid points. And that means she was on blast?…



Yeah. Spin.

It is disgusting that a whole group of people filmed the whole thing and did nothing. She said it was possible some of the men on there didn't step in because they were perverted, not all of them. Instead of taking it personal I'm open minded to what she said. It's possible.

 

[crandc]

A transit employee finally called 911 and police arrived in three minutes.

The rapist, no surprise, is claiming consent and said he knows the woman but when asked couldn't say her name.

 

[Orion Bailey]

It is disgusting that a whole group of people filmed the whole thing and did nothing. She said it was possible some of the men on there didn't step in because they were perverted, not all of them. Instead of taking it personal I'm open minded to what she said. It's possible.

lol. Calling it spin is taking it personal?


Have anything to say about her calling me a misogynist now?


Yeah. Complete spin.

 

[Chris Craig]

lol. Calling it spin is taking it personal?


Have anything to say about her calling me a misogynist now?


Yeah. Complete spin.

I took nothing you or she said personal. I was merely saying it's not necessarily spin.

I deleted her insult

 

[Orion Bailey]

I took nothing you or she said personal. I was merely saying it's not necessarily spin.

I deleted her insult

no worries. We can agree to disagree. History, as Nate pointed out, has a track record.

No deletion needed. Rather you leave it up. So 6 months from now when it happens again and its called out, its still there, so no one can backpeddle.

 

[Chris Craig]

no worries. We can agree to disagree. History, as Nate pointed out, has a track record.

No deletion needed. Rather you leave it up. So 6 months from now when it happens again and its called out, its still there, so no one can backpeddle.

I get what she has said and why. I get where you and Nate are coming from. I'm just saying there is middle ground. It's good to be open minded.

She is far from the only poster on here to hurl insults. It stays deleted as per the rules. There will be no backpedaling.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I get what she has said and why. I get where you and Nate are coming from. I'm just saying there is middle ground. It's good to be open minded.

She is far from the only poster on here to hurl insults. It stays deleted as per the rules. There will be no backpedaling.

read my comment to her about my watching game of thrones.
If i haven't exhibited an open mind and allowed myself to become biased, i dont think id be posting things like that.
Too often over looked by those tossing insults out…

However it gets tiring reading posts that back/defend those who hurl insults without any comment that that isn't cool or maybe asking her or others to have an open mind.

Misogynist
Despicable
Disgusting
Etc
Etc

wheres the comments asking others who hurl these out, to have an open mind?

Nm. Dont answer. Ive been around here long enough….

 

[Chris Craig]

read my comment to her about my watching game of thrones.
If i haven't exhibited an open mind and allowed myself to become biased, i dont think id be posting things like that.
Too often over looked by those tossing insults out…

However it gets tiring reading posts that back/defend those who hurl insults without any comment that that isn't cool or maybe asking her or others to have an open mind.

Misogynist
Despicable
Disgusting
Etc
Etc

wheres the comments asking others who hurl these out, to have an open mind?

Nm. Dont answer. Ive been around here long enough….

She called the people on the train disgusting.

She has used mysognitist. She is upset men on here seem so quick to wave away what she says. That's understandable. She shouldn't being hurling insults.

You and Nate are offended that she creates any negative picture of men. There are some men out there who are not as caring as you or me. Who treat women badly.

All I'm saying is try not take it personal when she says guys on that train probably might have not helped for nasty reasons. That doesn't mean you.

 

[donkiez]

Filming a crime and doing nothing about it.....

That is how we lost Seinfeld.

Have we learned nothing?

 

[crandc]

Spin? Dozens of people filmed it. It's going to end up somewhere. Her point is very on in fact, this woman will not only have to live with being raped, she certainly won't be able to ride a train again, she will have to wonder if anyone she sees in public were on that train. Were they one of the people who filmed her? Did those people delete the video? Did they share it?

She will probably never be able to be alone in public, at least for a long time. She will fear someone else attacking her and no one coming to her aid.

Everything you said is true, but a man had his feelings hurt!

 

[Chris Craig]

Filming a crime and doing nothing about it.....

That is how we lost Seinfeld.

Have we learned nothing?

Apparently not

 

[Chris Craig]

Everything you said is true, but a man had his feelings hurt!

Yeah, it seems he took offense or at least is not happy with your sentiments on men. There seems to be a notion that you are inclusionary of all men when you say negative things about men. I think his issue and that of Nate's is that you don't often post positive things about men. Not that it's your place to have to assauge men's egos with positive feedback.

Also, please stop with the insults.

 

[crandc]

Yeah, it seems he took offense or at least is not happy with your sentiments on men. There seems to be a notion that you are inclusionary of all men when you say negative things about men. I think his issue and that of Nate's is that you don't often post positive things about men. Not that it's your place to have to assauge men's egos with positive feedback.

Also, please stop with the insults.

Deal?
If men stop raping, assaulting and harassing women, if male legislators and judges stop saying they should make our private health care decisions, if women have equal pay and opportunity ... I will stop saying mean things about men.

 

[Chris Craig]

Deal?
If men stop raping, assaulting and harassing women, if male legislators and judges stop saying they should make our private health care decisions, if women have equal pay and opportunity ... I will stop saying mean things about men.

I never said you had to stop saying mean things about men in general. I was clarifying where OB and Nate were coming from. I was asking you not to use personal insults against posters here. That is all.

We both know that's never going to happen, or at least for a very long time. I don't expect you stop commenting on those occurances. They need to be called out.

 

[donkiez]

It should be pointed out that we know nothing about the demographics of the passengers or their personal history or circumstances, or even how many there were. To to assign motivation to their actions without any of that knowledge is just attaching our own bias to the situation.

 

[Phatguysrule]

If they filmed it rather than calling 911 or helping they should be charged with making a snuff film.

Defend their shitty actions in court.

 

[Orion Bailey]

So since i met some filthy trashy women over the years, im allowed to diss all women?

So women are welfare riding crackheads who are just out to gold dig on men and thier hard work while they sit st home and play days of our lives right?


Sweeping judgments about a whole sect of people will never go over well.
Period.

Some people are simply just jaded and take it out on a personal, one on one, level because they are incapable of distinguishing individualism.
Even though they claim to just want to be treated fair as an individual.
The hypocrisy is insufferable.
Lol.

So no one can play a bullshit spin on this. This is a “what if” post. Not how i feel personally about women.

And most women i know would agree with me.
And tell some other women to gtfover it and pull up yer damn britches. Holding angst and biased feelings against men wont get you anywhere but an unhappy life.

But not everyone handles things the same….

however the justificTion for ones behavior is ridiculous.

 

[Orion Bailey]

It should be pointed out that we know nothing about the demographics of the passengers or their personal history or circumstances, or even how many there were. To to assign motivation to their actions without any of that knowledge is just attaching our own bias to the situation.

Damn straight!!!

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

If they filmed it rather than calling 911 or helping they should be charged with making a snuff film.

Defend their shitty actions in court.

Its the responsibility of the train operators and law enforcement to ensure a safe ride, not passengers. We don't gotta do jack shit.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Its the responsibility of the train operators and law enforcement to ensure a safe ride, not passengers. We don't gotta do jack shit.

yeah and did the morally superior think that maybe the person filming was doing so to capture the evidence for the victim because maybe they thought someone else was calling 911?

so many variables, but when we judge based off what we “assume” another person is thinking…

it usually turns into an ASSumption.

 

[Chris Craig]

It should be pointed out that we know nothing about the demographics of the passengers or their personal history or circumstances, or even how many there were. To to assign motivation to their actions without any of that knowledge is just attaching our own bias to the situation.

Fair enough

 

[Chris Craig]

yeah and did the morally superior think that maybe the person filming was doing so to capture the evidence for the victim because maybe they thought someone else was calling 911?

so many variables, but when we judge based off what we “assume” another person is thinking…

it usually turns into an ASSumption.

Maybe when 1 of them saw it the other 20 filming they should have thought hey, someone else is filming this, maybe I should call 911. The fact they all were recording it and did nothing is disturbing.

 

[Chris Craig]

So since i met some filthy trashy women over the years, im allowed to diss all women?

So women are welfare riding crackheads who are just out to gold dig on men and thier hard work while they sit st home and play days of our lives right?


Sweeping judgments about a whole sect of people will never go over well.
Period.

Some people are simply just jaded and take it out on a personal, one on one, level because they are incapable of distinguishing individualism.
Even though they claim to just want to be treated fair as an individual.
The hypocrisy is insufferable.
Lol.

So no one can play a bullshit spin on this. This is a “what if” post. Not how i feel personally about women.

And most women i know would agree with me.
And tell some other women to gtfover it and pull up yer damn britches. Holding angst and biased feelings against men wont get you anywhere but an unhappy life.

But not everyone handles things the same….

however the justificTion for ones behavior is ridiculous.

Was it a sweeping judgement? She judged the men on the train filming a rape, not men in general.