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Speaking of Damon, saw him today out at the airport. Memphis landed as we were taking off and talked to him for a sec. Told me to tell you guys hi!

did you ask him if he had any foil?
 
Just got back from the game (I live in Reno) and a few things that stuck out:

*He is freakishly quick with the ball. His ability to drive around Bighorn guards was crazy and he has a soft touch on his floater to the hoop.


*He has great court presense. He is always dribbling with his head up and he made some nifty passes to big men who, if they had hands, could have cleanly caught the pass and dunked.


*He has an incredibly smooth jump shot. Probably one of the nicest jumpers I've seen in a long time. He had absolutely no trouble elevating and creating his own shot both off the screen and off the dribble.


*His turnovers were a factor of not having any cohesion with this team. The refs were letting both teams play and the one turnover that bounced off the big center's foot that led to a fast break was a hard foul that wasn't called. Mills was beaten off the dribble only once and that was when he gambled on a steal and missed.


*All in all, he had a solid game considering it was his second game back from a broken foot. If he continues to work hard and bulk up, I can definitely see some Chris Paul traits in his future. He's a point guard personified and can hit the three with the best of them. Yes this was the D-league, but you don't just come back from having missed 6 months and play at this level and conditioning without being something special. I can see why PA likes him so much.

Thanks for the info and welcome to the board! :cheers:
 
Just got back from the game (I live in Reno) and a few things that stuck out:

*He is freakishly quick with the ball. His ability to drive around Bighorn guards was crazy and he has a soft touch on his floater to the hoop.


*He has great court presense. He is always dribbling with his head up and he made some nifty passes to big men who, if they had hands, could have cleanly caught the pass and dunked.


*He has an incredibly smooth jump shot. Probably one of the nicest jumpers I've seen in a long time. He had absolutely no trouble elevating and creating his own shot both off the screen and off the dribble.


*His turnovers were a factor of not having any cohesion with this team. The refs were letting both teams play and the one turnover that bounced off the big center's foot that led to a fast break was a hard foul that wasn't called. Mills was beaten off the dribble only once and that was when he gambled on a steal and missed.


*All in all, he had a solid game considering it was his second game back from a broken foot. If he continues to work hard and bulk up, I can definitely see some Chris Paul traits in his future. He's a point guard personified and can hit the three with the best of them. Yes this was the D-league, but you don't just come back from having missed 6 months and play at this level and conditioning without being something special. I can see why PA likes him so much.

Hey, thanks for the report, and welcome aboard!

barfo
 
And another Patty article:

Mills makes his case - again

THE Portland Trail Blazers are likely to call on Aussie guard Patrick Mills sooner rather than later after he shone again overnight in the NBA's Development League.

Farmed to the D-League's Idaho Stampede where he had a 38-point, 12-assist double on debut, The Beijing Olympian hit a trio of triples and a lay-up in the final period of just his second game back since breaking his foot at the Trail Blazers' training camp in July.

Mills - all 181cm of him - scored the match-winner from an offensive rebound of all things, one second from the siren.

He finished with 22 points at 67 per cent, including 4-of-5 three-pointers, three assists and two rebounds in 32 minutes of action.

In two D-League games he is averaging 30 points and 7.5 assists, with 11-of-15 triples.
 
The question is, with Miller not sure about his PT or roll, Bayless struggling to find his shot, and Steve Blake Pneumoniaized, how will Patty fit in? Will he actually get some run from the coaches? How will that make Miller and especially Bayless feel? Bayless has been in the Martell camp for me the last few games. I love his hustle and heart, but if he can't shoot consistently, he's no use to us. Not saying he can't. He's young and learning, but if that's the case and he'll always be stringing together a few 2-12 games in a row between his good performances, maybe Patty can be a better option. It will be interesting to see. It's just the D-League, but still, if you can hit open jumpers and get the ball to your teammates and stay in front of your man in the NBA, your a good PG in this league.
 
Thanks for the info and welcome to the board! :cheers:

Thanks for the welcome all! I forgot mention that for his second game he was a pretty good lock down defender around the perimeter. He was rubbed off on a couple screens but quickly regained his position and got in front of his man again. The Bighorn guards aren't great, but Mills by far was the best athlete on the court. He looks so natural as a PG. I have many memories of him killing my Nevada Wolf Pack when he was at St. Mary's as I'm sure many of you have when he played against the Pilots.

Oh, forgot to mention Tolliver looked pretty dominant tonight. Nice to see the Blazers are keeping tabs on him and traded to get him on their d-league team.

BTW - did I mention what a nice jumper Mills has? ;-)
 
Thanks for the welcome all! I forgot mention that for his second game he was a pretty good lock down defender around the perimeter. He was rubbed off on a couple screens but quickly regained his position and got in front of his man again. The Bighorn guards aren't great, but Mills by far was the best athlete on the court. He looks so natural as a PG. I have many memories of him killing my Nevada Wolf Pack when he was at St. Mary's as I'm sure many of you have when he played against the Pilots.

Oh, forgot to mention Tolliver looked pretty dominant tonight. Nice to see the Blazers are keeping tabs on him and traded to get him on their d-league team.

BTW - did I mention what a nice jumper Mills has? ;-)

I didn't welcome you! You need at least 10 posts for that to happen! Step off rookie!
 
I didn't welcome you! You need at least 10 posts for that to happen! Step off rookie!

Don't mind HCP. He doesn't bite, we had his teeth pulled. He just gums you a little now.

barfo
 
The question is, with Miller not sure about his PT or roll, Bayless struggling to find his shot, and Steve Blake Pneumoniaized, how will Patty fit in? Will he actually get some run from the coaches? How will that make Miller and especially Bayless feel? Bayless has been in the Martell camp for me the last few games. I love his hustle and heart, but if he can't shoot consistently, he's no use to us. Not saying he can't. He's young and learning, but if that's the case and he'll always be stringing together a few 2-12 games in a row between his good performances, maybe Patty can be a better option. It will be interesting to see. It's just the D-League, but still, if you can hit open jumpers and get the ball to your teammates and stay in front of your man in the NBA, your a good PG in this league.

It's not a problem. When Blake comes back we'll start Blake, Bayless, Mills, Miller, plus Roy at center.

barfo
 
He's OFFICIALLY back!

PATTY MILLS RECALLED FROM IDAHO STAMPEDE

PORTLAND, Ore. – The Portland Trail Blazers recalled guard Patty Mills from the NBA Development League’s Idaho Stampede, it was announced today by General Manager Kevin Pritchard.

In two games since being assigned to the Stampede on Dec. 29, Mills posted averages of 30.0 points (21-37 FG, 11-15 3-PT) and 7.5 assists in 34.0 minutes off the bench.

In his first professional game, Mills led all players with 38 points and 12 assists on Jan. 1. The 6-0 guard’s put-back with 1.2 seconds remaining gave the Stampede a one-point win on Jan. 3.

Mills, selected by the Trail Blazers with the 55th overall pick in the second round of the 2009 NBA Draft, will join the Trail Blazers for Monday’s game at the L.A. Clippers.
 
Thanks for the welcome all! I forgot mention that for his second game he was a pretty good lock down defender around the perimeter. He was rubbed off on a couple screens but quickly regained his position and got in front of his man again. The Bighorn guards aren't great, but Mills by far was the best athlete on the court. He looks so natural as a PG. I have many memories of him killing my Nevada Wolf Pack when he was at St. Mary's as I'm sure many of you have when he played against the Pilots.

Oh, forgot to mention Tolliver looked pretty dominant tonight. Nice to see the Blazers are keeping tabs on him and traded to get him on their d-league team.

BTW - did I mention what a nice jumper Mills has? ;-)

Thanks for posting and welcome! :cheers:
 
In his last game his average per game tumbled by 7 points per game. That's atrocious. They only recalled him before his avg per game tumbled further and he was exposed for the bust that he is. He is no Manu, I tell you. Also, our GM can't trade and our Coach can't coach, the fans are bandwagon fans and it will be raining outside.

Just keeping it real.
 
Interesting comparison.

I wonder if I would feel different about Damon if the circumstances had been different. The feeling was (when he came here from Toronto) that we got our Isaiah Thomas. A 20/10 guy. A Stud. Now I didn't see a whole lot of his games in Toronto, but he did everything better there statistically. And I remember that a certain #23 for Chicago predicted Damon would be one of the better players for years to come (we didn't know MJ couldn't scout back then like we do now) Damon Scored more, more assists, shot a higher % by leaps in bounds in Toronto. The only thing the did more of here was make money - As in 84 million in 7 years - clogging up cap space.

But what if he just been a 2nd round pick? A b/u that came in as a spark plug. He was terrible at running the offense, and he couldn't finish at the basket. But he could get hot and stretch a defense. I guess what I'm saying is if Patti Mills is Damon 2, under the current circumstances that would be a good thing - right?

Meh.

What happened with Damon was pretty simple. In Toronto, he was one of the fastest players in the league. He came to Portland, lost half a step, and became a liability.

Before the injury, and its' implications for his speed, I thought Mills had a chance (albeit a slim one) to be an NBA player. Now....no way.
 
wasn't Mills' injury a broken bone that's now healed? Not sure how that would impact his speed to the point that he went from beating up on RedeemTeamers to "No Way" of being an NBA player.
 
wasn't Mills' injury a broken bone that's now healed? Not sure how that would impact his speed to the point that he went from beating up on RedeemTeamers to "No Way" of being an NBA player.

Simple prediction: the pain in the foot will cause him to change the way he runs/moves. In favoring that foot, he will injury a joint.
 
Meh.

What happened with Damon was pretty simple. In Toronto, he was one of the fastest players in the league. He came to Portland, lost half a step, and became a liability.

Before the injury, and its' implications for his speed, I thought Mills had a chance (albeit a slim one) to be an NBA player. Now....no way.


How did he lose a half step? He was 24 years old. He started the year with Toronto in '97-98 and was averaging 19/8 and shooting .425% after 22 games. Then he was traded to Portland and never came close to those numbers again. What injury are you talking about?
 
How did he lose a half step? He was 24 years old. He started the year with Toronto in '97-98 and was averaging 19/8 and shooting .425% after 22 games. Then he was traded to Portland and never came close to those numbers again. What injury are you talking about?

I don't recall the details, but the year after he was traded to Portland, he missed 30+ games to injury.
 
I forgot mention that for his second game he was a pretty good lock down defender around the perimeter. He was rubbed off on a couple screens but quickly regained his position and got in front of his man again.

Constraint #1, caused by McMillan:
McMillan's system goes for 2nd chance shots off the rebound of jump shots. Usually reaching the end of the 24 seconds, an inside player passes in desperation to the open man, the PG. In McMillan's system, the PG must be a good shooter, a good defender, and a good ballhandler who gets no turnovers.

Constraint #2, caused by Roy:
Roy needs to handle the ball. He is a point-SG, whatever that is. He doesn't need a PG who gets a lot of assists, since then, the PG will desire to handle the ball a lot.

New development, caused by Mills:
Mills appears to be a great shooter, especially from the 3. His college reputation is that he is much more of a shooter than a playmaker, but at his 5-11 height, he must play PG despite his mediocre assist average. In his post above, Duckhook says that Mills played good defense in the D-League.

Summary:
This is the PG we've been waiting for !!!!
 
I don't want to talk him up (because I know how you guys are prone to overreaction both in the positive, and the negative) but I told you before the draft that Patty would be a good PG next to B-Roy.

Patty is a one man fast break, so let him push it, and if nothing's on he can hand the ball to Roy, and play SG to Roy's PG. Run him off screens, leave him in the corner for the kick, etc.

I reckon his game style is well suited to Roy, the only question is if he is (or will be) up to the level we require. I guess we'll begin to find out soon.
 
I would be great if Mills played and hit 3s left and right. Be a better Blake at hitting the 3 and be a even quicker Bayless on breaking down the defense. Ok, I'm dreaming.
 
Tonight may be the only chance Mills gets to prove himself before Blake is back. We don't need 4 PGs.
 
we will need scoring from him instead of bayless and his endless "clanks" of the rim. if mills plays well.. trade bayless before its too late.
 
It was an ankle. I remember him rolling an ankle.

Damon played in

70 out of 82 Rookie Season
81 out of 82 2nd season
71 out of 82 3rd season (49 games with Toronto, 22 with Portland)
50 out of 50 4th season (lockout year)

He never missed 30+ games from an injury until after he left Portland for Memphis.

So, he rolled his ankle in Toronto (or when he 1st came to Portland) and lost half a step for the rest of his career? That is why he never played at the same level as a Blazer that he did in Toronto? Hmmm. I always thought that he couldn't take the pressure of getting traded back to his hometown to be "the guy" on winning team. Then, when it was clear he wasn't going to be "the guy", he lost his confidence. I also always assumed that in Toronto (21-61 Damon's rookie year and 30-52 his 2nd year) just let Damon go helter skelter out there and didn't try to turn him into a disciplined PG.
 
How did he lose a half step? He was 24 years old. He started the year with Toronto in '97-98 and was averaging 19/8 and shooting .425% after 22 games. Then he was traded to Portland and never came close to those numbers again. What injury are you talking about?

Damon's problem here was he was asked to play a different way then he was truly capable of. If Portland had made Damon their offensive center piece he would have kept going the way he did in Toronto.

However, Portland as a team wouldn't have had as much success as they did forcing Damon to play within a team system. Had Damon ever truly bought in to the whole idea of making other guys better he would have been damn good.

But he never did. As a result he was a disappointment.

Yet another example of a team's system not matching a players skill set. Happens all the time (See Miller, Andre).
 
Damon's problem here was he was asked to play a different way then he was truly capable of. If Portland had made Damon their offensive center piece he would have kept going the way he did in Toronto.

However, Portland as a team wouldn't have had as much success as they did forcing Damon to play within a team system. Had Damon ever truly bought in to the whole idea of making other guys better he would have been damn good.

But he never did. As a result he was a disappointment.

Yet another example of a team's system not matching a players skill set. Happens all the time (See Miller, Andre).

I agree. At least Miller isn't making $84 million over 7 years. I'd say that Miller still has a better chance of adjusting than Damon ever did.
 

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