OT Paul Allen wants to replace refs with robots

[SlyPokerDog]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/technology/paul-allen-ai-common-sense.html

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Some day it will happen but we will all be long-gone by then.

 

[Natebishop3]

I tend to agree with him.

I would rather have the games called closer than have favoritism and star treatment.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Some day it will happen but we will all be long-gone by then.

It will happen a LOT sooner than you think. Machine learning is THE hot topic in the high tech industry. The amount of research and development going on in this area is staggering. We are already seeing self driving car and self navigating drone prototypes. Computer vision technology is already reasonably mature and now it's just a matter of developing the deep learning algorithms to make this all into reality.

I plan on living at least 35 more years. Think about where we were 35 years ago. Most homes didn't even have cable TV or a VCR, let alone a computer and an internet connection. We've lived through the personal computer revolution, the internet revolution and the cell phone revolution. This is the next big paradigm shift. It will be here before you know it - at least the technology will be. It's up to the league and the players to decide if they want to use that technology.

BNM

 

[jlprk]

Lunar basketball won't have refereeing because in 1/6 gravity, the ball will be out of control anyway.

 

[barfo]

I think this is totally doable with today's technology. Same idea as Amazon's automated convenience stores.

barfo

 

[Orion Bailey]

This can be done in steps, not all at once. Tennis does it.

Start with cameras set at angles to go down the lines of the court. No more replay needed to determine whether the player stepped out or not. Same with the three point line.

Start with these obvious and easier levels of automated refereeing and maybe it will help the refs be more accurate on the judgment calls like fouls, etc, because they can stay glued to the action instead of looking down at boundary lines etc.

Sorry @dviss1 . This is probably something like a nightmare to you. The fear of your kind going out of business to some robot must be sickening.

 

[Natebishop3]

This can be done in steps, not all at once. Tennis does it.

Start with cameras set at angles to go down the lines of the court. No more replay needed to determine whether the player stepped out or not. Same with the three point line.

Start with these obvious and easier levels of automated refereeing and maybe it will help the refs be more accurate on the judgment calls like fouls, etc, because they can stay glued to the action instead of looking down at boundary lines etc.

Sorry @dviss1 . This is probably something like a nightmare to you. The fear of your kind going out of business to some robot must be sickening.

Well, I really don't see why we haven't put pressure sensors along the out of bounds lines so that they light up if you step on them. That would at least remove a lot of the question about whether someone stepped out or not.

Shit, these guys all wear pressure sleeves anyway. Why not design full body suits with sensors so that refs can see when someone slaps the shit out of a shooter? Give the refs glasses so that when a player gets slapped on the arm, they can actually see the arm turn red. This is all very doable, even with our technology today.

 

[e_blazer]

Great. Something else for the Russians to hack.

 

[stampedehero]

The league could program them to avoid long, over officiated games.

 

[Orion Bailey]

The league could program them to avoid long, over officiated games.

Just adjust the pressure sensors it takes a certain amount or force before lighting up. The league could modify as the games go on based on fluidity of the game until they have dialed in on an accepted level of contact.

 

[ripcityboy]

My guess is that baseball does this first. Since the technology exists and is easier to implement. But then people would say that robot baseball umpires are boring. It will just be added to the litany of complaints.

 

[Orion Bailey]

My guess is that baseball does this first. Since the technology exists and is easier to implement. But then people would say that robot baseball umpires are boring. It will just be added to the litany of complaints.

Not if its the ump still making the call. Give him a little hand held buzzer. It goes off when its a strike and he makes the call. Keep the emotional calls of tense 3-2 situations etc. people wont even notice after a while i bet. As long as the umps kept thier enthusiasm up.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Put RFIDs in everything, The seams of the ball, the out of bounds lines, in the rim itself. Then you would know if the ball was out of bounds, did or didn't hit the rim.

Football is the one who should really be doing this. RFID in the ball and on the field. The refs running out there with the sticks and chains is hilarious.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Put RFIDs in everything, The seams of the ball, the out of bounds lines, in the rim itself. Then you would know if the ball was out of bounds, did or didn't hit the rim.

Football is the one who should really be doing this. RFID in the ball and on the field. The refs running out there with the sticks and chains is hilarious.

Like... soldiers of a roman army in full march. Forward lean and all. So archaich. Lol

 

[MARIS61]

Lunar basketball won't have refereeing because in 1/6 gravity, the ball will be out of control anyway.

Simply fill the ball with a heavier substance, probably a liquid.

 

[MARIS61]

I'd like to see Paul Allen replaced by a robot.

Then maybe we'd see something resembling logical decisions and eventually a Championship.

Remember that one Championship we won with PA as owner...uh, nevermind.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'd like to see Paul Allen replaced by a robot.

Then maybe we'd see something resembling logical decisions and eventually a Championship.

Remember that one Championship we won with PA as owner...uh, nevermind.

was gonna say the same thing

plus, I'd rather have the robot refs there and do nothing except ok fouls. Let the players call foul like we do playing without refs. Have the robots there to override Draymond Green calling foul every five seconds.

 

[KingSpeed]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/technology/paul-allen-ai-common-sense.html

Where does it say that in the article? Funny that people responded your headline without reading the article.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Where does it say that in the article? Funny that people responded your headline without reading the article.

 

[Natebishop3]

Don't do any stoppages for foul shots. Have a computer tally up all the fouls and then at the end of the game, if it's close enough to matter, your two best shooters get to face off and take all the shots.

Go!

 

[Titan]

When this happens the refs be like...

 

[ripcityboy]

When this happens the refs be like...

"Took 'Er Jerbbbbs!"

 

[KingSpeed]

When this happens the refs be like...

Paul Allen said nothing about robot refs. Sly's headline is fake news.

 

[crandc]

I read the article and had the same reaction dviss did. He never said that he wanted to replace refs with robots. And a robot owner would never have passion for the team.

 

[barfo]

I read the article and thought hey, Sly's interpretation is a lot more fun and on-topic.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I read the article and thought hey, Sly's interpretation is a lot more fun and on-topic.

barfo

Thank you

 

[stampedehero]

Finally, I have a substantial career move coming. No more dead end work.

 

[stampedehero]

Put RFIDs in everything, The seams of the ball, the out of bounds lines, in the rim itself. Then you would know if the ball was out of bounds, did or didn't hit the rim.

Football is the one who should really be doing this. RFID in the ball and on the field. The refs running out there with the sticks and chains is hilarious.

Hire Ultraman!! Hire Ultraman as head of officiating!!!

 

[KeepOnRollin]

It will happen a LOT sooner than you think. Machine learning is THE hot topic in the high tech industry. The amount of research and development going on in this area is staggering. We are already seeing self driving car and self navigating drone prototypes. Computer vision technology is already reasonably mature and now it's just a matter of developing the deep learning algorithms to make this all into reality.

I plan on living at least 35 more years. Think about where we were 35 years ago. Most homes didn't even have cable TV or a VCR, let alone a computer and an internet connection. We've lived through the personal computer revolution, the internet revolution and the cell phone revolution. This is the next big paradigm shift. It will be here before you know it - at least the technology will be. It's up to the league and the players to decide if they want to use that technology.

BNM

I agree that the technology will be ready. What I mean is that NBA will probably be one of the last sports leagues to implement it. I don't expect to see it in my lifetime but I think it would be interesting to be wrong on that.