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Well, if that's true, it was silly to turn it down. Keeping George in the conference is irrelevant when you're starting a rebuild.

According to Zach Lowe, those starters may have been Crowder and Smart. Useful players, either to add to Turner or to trade for more picks.

Would it not be conceivable that KP didn't want to trade George to a contender in the east, so he looked west, but spurned a better offer by the blazers because of sour grapes?
 
Would it not be conceivable that KP didn't want to trade George to a contender in the east, so he looked west, but spurned a better offer by the blazers because of sour grapes?

It's certainly conceivable--I said as much in an earlier post: it wouldn't shock me if Pritchard was petty. I'd just need to see what Portland actually offered. If their headliner was Crabbe or Turner, then I wouldn't consider it silly to have turned it down.
 
Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe George will decide that he prefers to stick with Westbrook and recruit a third star? At this point it's hard to tell. There is a very high chance that he will bolt to LA at the end of season but for this package it was well worth it.

And choose cow town over Beverly hills?
 
And choose cow town over Beverly hills?

He could always live in Malibu in the off-season. I agree that he'd probably want to live there even during the season when not on the road, but if he and Westbrook click and the Thunder do something impressive like make it to the conference finals, I could imagine him deciding that's better than being first-round fodder in LA.

I think the chances of that are very low, just not zero.
 
He could always live in Malibu in the off-season. I agree that he'd probably want to live there even during the season when not on the road, but if he and Westbrook click and the Thunder do something impressive like make it to the conference finals, I could imagine him deciding that's better than being first-round fodder in LA.

I think the chances of that are very low, just not zero.

If he and Westbrook click, they'd still both go to LA. LOL.

Edit: They could put a team together in LA that is just as good as the Plunder.
 
Agreed - I think A LOT of people are overrating George. Yes, he IS very good. But look at the results - he BARELY got his team into the Playoffs (1 game!), and that's in the East. Very good player, but Westbrook is better and a lot of people here don't think Westbrook is good...so if that's the case, the George is garbage. LOL!

Could be totally wrong here, but he does not fear me like Carmelo did in his prime. Melo could attack the basket and there was nothing you could do but foul him. George as you mentioned is a very very good and I think he would have fit perfectly with the Blazers, but isn't he basically an excellent 3 and D guy? Nothing wrong with that because when he is on...... he is unstoppable. But when guys like Harden, or as you mentioned Westbrook, get the ball at the end of the game you have no clue if they are going to pull up for the 3, stop for the mid range. or attack the basket. My guess is with Paul George...he is shooting the 3.

Again I think PG is an excellent player and he will be an excellent Robin to Westbrook, as long as his ego can handle it. But is he Batman?
 
If he and Westbrook click, they'd still both go to LA. LOL.

Edit: They could put a team together in LA that is just as good as the Plunder.

Westbrook will never leave OKC. I feel confident about that. Too much pride.
 
If he and Westbrook click, they'd still both go to LA. LOL.
The more I think about it, the more likely this seems. Both are LA guys. Both are free agents this summer. There's no reason to think that they wouldn't be willing to head to Cali together.

Who'd have ever thought that the best outcome for the Lakers could possibly have been George being traded to the Thunder?
 
Meh. That pride also involves his hometown.

All this hometown talk with players is overstated. Rarely does it actually happen, and when it does it usually doesn't end positively. A lot of players say it's more of a distraction than anything.

And with Westbrook, if he left for LA, it'd go against everything we've been led to believe about how he's built. Im not even a Westbrook fan but he's probably the realest player in the league. There's nothing phony about him, so if he made that move, I'd be shocked.
 
All this hometown talk with players is overstated. Rarely does it actually happen, and when it does it usually doesn't end positively. A lot of players say it's more of a distraction than anything.

And with Westbrook, if he left for LA, it'd go against everything we've been led to believe about how he's built. Im not even a Westbrook fan but he's probably the realest player in the league. There's nothing phony about him, so if he made that move, I'd be shocked.

Only time will tell.
 
Suppose RW doesn't extend this offseason. PG leaves. Cupboard is bare. RW leaves. Left with capspace and nothing else.

Suppose RW extends. PG leaves. Team is much worse. Team has cap space.

Only way they come out is if PG re-signs AND they play well.

I hardly think this "destroys" them (your words). Too early to say that, by far. Talk about a knee-jerk reaction.
 
Suppose RW doesn't extend this offseason. PG leaves. Cupboard is bare. RW leaves. Left with capspace and nothing else.

Suppose RW extends. PG leaves. Team is much worse. Team has cap space.

Only way they come out is if PG re-signs AND they play well.
The Thunder only gave up an average SG and a really underwhelming PF prospect for a superstar... even if he leaves it doesn't need leave them missing that much..
 
Really interesting article by Zach Lowe about the George saga.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/pag...ma-city-thunder-fallout-pacers-lakers-celtics

Given what else was out there, this is a disappointing return for Indiana and new president Kevin Pritchard, even with the Pacers negotiating from a position of weakness. Every team, even George's suitors in Boston and Cleveland, thinks there is at least a 75 percent chance George stays true to his L.A. plans. The Lakers certainly think that. It is unclear if they even engaged the Pacers Friday night. They didn't yield on either Brandon Ingram or Lonzo Ball, and if they are sure George is heading their way, they were right not to. The Pacers do not appear to have been interested in D'Angelo Russell. Time will tell on the L.A. front.

In what is now a time-honored tradition, reports quickly emanated from Boston last night about all the goodies the Celtics had offered: two starters (some combination of Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, and Marcus Smart) and three draft picks in the most recent round of talks, and a mega-package at the trade deadline, per our Jeff Goodman and Steve Bulpett of the Boston Herald, that included what became the No. 1 pick in the draft. (League sources verified that tidbit to ESPN.com.)

As I reported Friday morning, Boston's most recent offer, whenever it was on the table, did not include any of the following: next year's Nets pick, Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, or the Lakers-Kings pick Boston picked up from Philly in exchange for sliding down two spots in the draft. If the Celtics really offered three picks sometime in the last two weeks -- and I believe they did -- they came from some combination of Boston's own stash and extra protected 2019 first-rounders acquired from Memphis and the Clippers. Boston also offered a combination of three starter-level players and two picks, according to sources familiar with the talks.

All of those picks could end up in the 20s. The Pacers were open about their desire for a top-10 pick, or some equivalent talent. Boston's package would not have met that requirement. Bradley may earn as much as Oladipo in two seasons. Smart's next deal will also kick in then. It is not some killer, irresistible package.

It's still better than what the Pacers got. Picks are liquid trade assets, even if they are projected to land in the 20s. Just a week ago, Portland turned two sub-lottery picks into the No. 10 pick. Indiana might even have taken that Boston deal had it been clearly on the table last night, according to sources familiar with the talks. It may not have been, even if Boston had offered it days before.
 
So if Westbrook and PG leave for LA are we talking Clippers? Maybe we root for Ball to have a promising rookie year so the Lakers are less likely to want Westbrook. (and RW is less likely to want to go to the Lakers) Unless you think he and Lonzo could co-exist in the backcourt...which I don't under the current rules. (Only one ball on the court at a time)
 
So if Westbrook and PG leave for LA are we talking Clippers? Maybe we root for Ball to have a promising rookie year so the Lakers are less likely to want Westbrook. (and RW is less likely to want to go to the Lakers) Unless you think he and Lonzo could co-exist in the backcourt...which I don't under the current rules. (Only one ball on the court at a time)

Ball is an unproven rookie. Sure he was the Number 2 pick, but so was Brandon Ingram and D'Angelo Russel. If the Lakers have a chance to land Westbrook and Paul George, they will either let Ball back up Westbrook for the remainder of his rookie contract or they will trade him as part of a package for the third piece of their Big 3.

I don't give a shit what his dad says, Lonzo Ball ain't the kind of transcendent player you pass on TWO established superstars to accommodate.

BNM
 
Ball is an unproven rookie. Sure he was the Number 2 pick, but so was Brandon Ingram and D'Angelo Russel. If the Lakers have a chance to land Westbrook and Paul George, they will either let Ball back up Westbrook for the remainder of his rookie contract or they will trade him as part of a package for the third piece of their Big 3.

I don't give a shit what his dad says, Lonzo Ball ain't the kind of transcendent player you pass on TWO established superstars to accommodate.

BNM
He is an unproven rookie now, but he won't be next summer. People in LA are very high on him now. We will see if they are right.
 
He is an unproven rookie now, but he won't be next summer. People in LA are very high on him now. We will see if they are right.

High enough to pass on both Westbrook and George? Is it even possible to be that high?

BNM
 
OKC forums are going to be great to read when PG13 convinces Westbrook to leave with him to LA next year. Thats what you get for taking the Sonics from Seattle, 9 great years of basketball then your fucked.
 
If PG and Westbrook leaves, they basically have no one on the team.

Takes spending money to make money. Have to take some risks.

I like Sabonis, but the guys they gave up were not much. And to get rid of Dipo's contract.... Presti was able to get out of that, and is both players walk, he'll make the most of it.

Westbrook's situation is not so tied to PG's, though I think making a move for PG let's him know that at least they're trying to put a team around him.

They were not "destroyed" by the move, regardless of what PG does next year.
 
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