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BTOWN_HUSTLA said:
never been, seems like it would suck ass out there.
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I'm a city guy, so I don't really like it. But it beats being in downtown Detroit! Also, New Orleans should be dead last!
 
Erroneous Subterfuge said:
And that's relevant how, exactly? We were 3rd in attendance last year. Teams like Atlanta and New Jersey can't even get crowds when they win.
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We made the playoffs for the first time in like 7 years or something like that....we're on a championship path, of course we're going to have a good attendance. New Jersey is a shithole and their team is going to move, and ATL sucks.
 
The only time I've been to Detroit was to get a look at Tiger Stadium during it's last season. It's a depressing place (wish I could've seen it before it got screwed up.)

Anyway, on the way to the airport, the cabbie asked where I lived and I said I live in Seattle. He said, "you don't live IN Seattle, do you? You live in the suburbs?" I told him that I actually lived in the city and he could not understand why I'd ever choose to live in a city. When I told him the billionaire/Starbuck's founder/mega a-hole Howard Schultz lived in the city, he was dumbfounded. His view of city life was that bleak. The suburbs were like the promised land to him. Weird stuff.
 
Most Blazer fans are bandwagon jumpers. It's true. A lot of people used the "jail blazer" image as an excuse, but that was bullshit. They weren't going because the team sucked. Plain and simple. Don't believe me? Attendance was low during the end of the Rod Strickland era and the beginning of the Kenny Anderson/JR Rider/Rasheed Wallace era. Attendance didn't pick back up until we traded for Damon Stoudamire and made it to the WCF in 98-99. The Blazers were pratically giving tickets away before that. Two-fer Tuesdays were the shit.

Peak fanbase and attendance during the Clyde/Porter/Kersey era and then a lull. Peaked again when it was Damon/Rider/Sheed/Pippen/Smith/Sabas. Lulled again after we lost in the WCF to LA and then flat lined with all the Jail Blazer stuff. While our attendance was never THAT bad, neither was the team. I think it's funny that fans blame the Jail Blazer reputation, but that rep was originally garnered because of Rider/Wallace/Stoudamire while we were heading towards the WCF.

Think it's a coincidence that we had our lowest fan turnout when the team was at its worst? Oh, but that's because of our reputation, right?
 
Compared to Chicago? Look at the support the Cubs get. They probably have the longest streak in any sport for not winning a championship. Yet they are one of the top three most popular teams in the league. What does that say about Chicago?
 
BTOWN_HUSTLA said:
We made the playoffs for the first time in like 7 years or something like that....we're on a championship path, of course we're going to have a good attendance.
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All fanbases come and go to some degree depending on the success of the team. That's not very hard to understand (although maybe for you it is). But the fact is the article singled out Portland fans for not showing up for a few years, and didn't do the same thing for other franchises.

Houston was 3rd worst in attendance just 4 years ago, yet they're ranked #4 on this list. That same year Orlando was 4th worst in attendance (and the previous year, 3rd worst the year before that), yet on this list they're ranked #5. So what's the difference? And none of those fanbases were subjected to the jailblazers on top of losing...
 
westnob said:
Compared to Chicago? Look at the support the Cubs get. They probably have the longest streak in any sport for not winning a championship. Yet they are one of the top three most popular teams in the league. What does that say about Chicago?
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That they don't care about winning?

barfo
 
Erroneous Subterfuge said:
All fanbases come and go to some degree depending on the success of the team. That's not very hard to understand (although maybe for you it is). But the fact is the article singled out Portland fans for not showing up for a few years, and didn't do the same thing for other franchises.

Houston was 3rd worst in attendance just 4 years ago, yet they're ranked #4 on this list. That same year Orlando was 4th worst in attendance (and the previous year, 3rd worst the year before that), yet on this list they're ranked #5. So what's the difference? And none of those fanbases were subjected to the jailblazers on top of losing...
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well, it was very noticable the ways the fans abandoned the franchise in their darkest hours...not just a lull of mediocrity...it was very well publicized about how much the fan support dropped to a poor record and the jailblazer image. its not just the jailblazer label, it was also how much the fanbase "loved" the blazers but a few bumps and no more love....

houston and orlando are there because houston is where a lot of pro-athletes like to live, they can buy big blinged out mansions for cheap, lots of black wealth and the weather is hot. Orlando..its florida, nice place to live. that's why they are ranked so high on the list. portland is a dank, dreary and cloudy place.
 
HurraKane212 said:
Actually, San Antonio is pretty awesome. GREAT weather, no income tax, no tax on groceries, LOW cost of living, some beautiful country, and some awesome restaurants. Also, 6 flags, Sea World, and really cool shopping places like La Contera. I moved here last August, I like it a lot.
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I bet the athletes love going to 6 flags and sea world... but seriously I guess if you want to be a king, that would be nice...
 
westnob said:
But if he really means that, which i wouldn't be surprised, why not come out and say that...
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hmmm....and then he can basically base the articles on which cities are the most fun for young, rich africian americans to live in? yeah, that'll go over nicely.
 
julius said:
What does my grandmother have to do with this conversation?
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chicago is a great city and the drunken losers in that city really take in to their teams. they are real die-hards....sure, there are die-hard blazer fans who are obsessed like on this board...but more than not, the numbers aren't that many and its more bandwagon peeps than anything. in chicago, being a sports fan is part of the culture.
 
BTOWN_HUSTLA said:
chicago is a great city and the drunken losers in that city really take in to their teams. they are real die-hards....sure, there are die-hard blazer fans who are obsessed like on this board...but more than not, the numbers aren't that many and its more bandwagon peeps than anything. in chicago, being a sports fan is part of the culture.
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my grandmothers nickname was "goomba".
 
Would you still hang around your sibling/parent if they became a deadbeat? NO! What's wrong with being a fair-weather fan? The point of a sports team is to entertain. If the team is playing awful, why go to the game (unless you want to see some other team that is good). I don't think the Blazers would have bad attendance if the team went 30-52.
 
BTOWN_HUSTLA said:
houston and orlando are there because houston is where a lot of pro-athletes like to live, they can buy big blinged out mansions for cheap, lots of black wealth and the weather is hot. Orlando..its florida, nice place to live. that's why they are ranked so high on the list. portland is a dank, dreary and cloudy place.
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Dude, I'm not questioning why they're ranked above us, I'm questioning why the author points to the fans as a negative in Portland, as opposed to a place like Houston/Orlando... Not. hard. to. understand.
 
Erroneous Subterfuge said:
Dude, I'm not questioning why they're ranked above us, I'm questioning why the author points to the fans as a negative in Portland, as opposed to a place like Houston/Orlando... Not. hard. to. understand.
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because Portland fans have a reputation for "blazermaniacs". he's taking a dig at them as being just like any other fan and showing that they do abandon their team if they're not winning.
 
westnob said:
Would you still hang around your sibling/parent if they became a deadbeat? NO! What's wrong with being a fair-weather fan? The point of a sports team is to entertain. If the team is playing awful, why go to the game (unless you want to see some other team that is good). I don't think the Blazers would have bad attendance if the team went 30-52.
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fair weather fans deserve to get beat down. :cheers:
 
While on the subject of city bashing--

I will never understand why someone would want to live in NYC. I don't get the fascination--perhaps cause I'm a middle aged, happily married guy with kids but there's no amount of money that could ever get me to move to NYC.
 
talman said:
While on the subject of city bashing--

I will never understand why someone would want to live in NYC. I don't get the fascination--perhaps cause I'm a middle aged, happily married guy with kids but there's no amount of money that could ever get me to move to NYC.
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I'd like to live there, but its too expensive. it'd be fun for a younger, single type.
 
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