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$$$$ is why they would just let us have him.

Bynum is intriguing for sure. Money could be scary though, and he has never been able to stay healthy

Pek will be matched. I don't care what Khan has said publicly. There is no way Minny justs lets him go like that without getting something in return. That's why I was thinking a Leonard + Matthews combo woud work getting Ridnour and Pek in return. Matthews and Leonard are cheap and multi-year; which helps the t-pups with their rebuilding process.
 
Pek will be matched. I don't care what Khan has said publicly.
I'm not so sure. I think Khan is trying to play this like Olshey did last summer, but isn't actually prepared to match a lucrative offer - he's just saying he will in the hopes of scaring other teams away.
 
I'm not so sure. I think Khan is trying to play this like Olshey did last summer, but isn't actually prepared to match a lucrative offer - he's just saying he will in the hopes of scaring other teams away.

Khan has publicly said he will not match a max offer.
 
We could offer Leonard + a couple players for Pek. Saves Minny money, since they would have their center on a small rookie scale contract.

Probably the best route. Just throwing out an offer sheet probably isn't going to work ... then again is David Kahn really going to deal with Olshey after last summer's drama?
 
I have watched a couple of games, and what he does well is clog the middle. He is not a shot blocker, but he does slightly alter the opponents offense because of his size

Love Pek, but this is a Max contract deal breaker for me. If were gonna splurge on a Center he's got to be able to block shots.
 
Probably the best route. Just throwing out an offer sheet probably isn't going to work ... then again is David Kahn really going to deal with Olshey after last summer's drama?

Yeah that's what really sucks. It's pretty evident that Khan has something against the Blazer organization.
 
Love Pek, but this is a Max contract deal breaker for me. If were gonna splurge on a Center he's got to be able to block shots.

The greatest shot blockers get what? 2 to 3 swats per game? While I do agree that the threat to block a shot definitely alters the way teams attack the basket, sometimes just having a big that can clog the paint, and can't be backed down in the post and knows how to rotate and play good team defense is more than enough ... not that I'm saying that Pek is all of those things, because I haven't watched him enough to make that kind of evaluation, but if he can play that way then he'd be worth 12 million a year given his other talents.

The thought I have is what if Chuck Hayes were three or four inches taller? He's short for a center and he's not a shot blocker at all, but for awhile there he was one of the best one-on-one post defenders in the league.
 
...knows how to rotate and play good team defense is more than enough...
I agree with this. I haven't watched him play enough either, but people are saying that he doesn't do this well.
And I agree with you on blocked shots, too. I LOVE it when a shot is blocked, but a blocked shot in and of itself is not necessarily a measure of good defense. Blocking two shots a game is only a difference in 4 points and ONLY if both of those shots were going to be made baskets unless they were blocked, and ONLY if you gain possession after the block. But the threat of blocking a shot can certainly increase the effectiveness of a team's defense.
 
I agree with this. I haven't watched him play enough either, but people are saying that he doesn't do this well.
And I agree with you on blocked shots, too. I LOVE it when a shot is blocked, but a blocked shot in and of itself is not necessarily a measure of good defense. Blocking two shots a game is only a difference in 4 points and ONLY if both of those shots were going to be made baskets unless they were blocked, and ONLY if you gain possession after the block. But the threat of blocking a shot can certainly increase the effectiveness of a team's defense.

Then that would give me a lot of pause before I threw wads of money at him. FML, I guess I'm going to have to watch more T-wolves games on league pass between now and April.
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Then that would give me a lot of pause before I threw wads of money at him. FML, I guess I'm going to have to watch more T-wolves games on league pass between now and April.
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I don't know if I could stomach watching Minny that much! Hahahaha

Can we just use advanced stats and shit?
 
I don't know if I could stomach watching Minny that much! Hahahaha

Can we just use advanced stats and shit?

Eh, sort of (or at least partially). But really you need to put your eyes on a guy to see how he plays, not just trust stats that can be influenced by how bad/good his teammates are around him.
 
I don't get the infatuation with Pekovic. It seems like a lot of posters here are projecting their own desires and team needs onto him because he may be the best obtainable center, but let's get serious. Pek is a poor defender and an average rebounder. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

He does give you low post scoring, but I'd rather keep Hickson for less money. At least Hickson is an elite rebounder. Hickson shoots a higher FG%, rebounds better, blocks as many shots, and has a higher WS/48 than Pek. He's also 3 years younger, more durable and likely quite a bit cheaper. Plus he can also play PF.

Although he shoots a lower FG% than Hickson, Pek is more of a scoring threat. With Love out, Pek is currently Minnesota's #1 option on offense, but he only scores about 2.5 more PTS/36 that Hickson, who is the Blazers #5 option on offense with almost no set plays run for him.

I said it an another thread, I'd rather retain Hickson, for less money, and continue to develop Meyers Leonard than spend big bucks on Pek. Hickson can then move to the bench and back up both the 4 and 5. He would be great in that role. Meyers is very raw, but he has much more defensive potential than Pek or Hickson. He just needs time (as in 2+ years) to develop, but he has all the tools to be a great defensive center and by the time he's starting, he'll only be 22 or 23. For what it could likely take to get Pek, we could retain Hickson and probably sign a solid veteran back-up PG or SG (Redick or Jack).

Pekovic at anything near a max deal is fool's gold. He will never live up to such a contract and anyone who gives him one will regret it almost immediately and REALLY regret it 2 or 3 years down the road when your 30-year old often injured center is in decline and tying up a huge chunk of your cap space.

BNM
 
I don't get the infatuation with Pekovic. It seems like a lot of posters here are projecting their own desires and team needs onto him because he may be the best obtainable center, but let's get serious. Pek is a poor defender and an average rebounder. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

He does give you low post scoring, but I'd rather keep Hickson for less money. At least Hickson is an elite rebounder. Hickson shoots a higher FG%, rebounds better, blocks as many shots, and has a higher WS/48 than Pek. He's also 3 years younger, more durable and likely quite a bit cheaper. Plus he can also play PF.

Although he shoots a lower FG% than Hickson, Pek is more of a scoring threat. With Love out, Pek is currently Minnesota's #1 option on offense, but he only scores about 2.5 more PTS/36 that Hickson, who is the Blazers #5 option on offense with almost no set plays run for him.

I said it an another thread, I'd rather retain Hickson, for less money, and continue to develop Meyers Leonard than spend big bucks on Pek. Hickson can then move to the bench and back up both the 4 and 5. He would be great in that role. Meyers is very raw, but he has much more defensive potential than Pek or Hickson. He just needs time (as in 2+ years) to develop, but he has all the tools to be a great defensive center and by the time he's starting, he'll only be 22 or 23. For what it could likely take to get Pek, we could retain Hickson and probably sign a solid veteran back-up PG or SG (Redick or Jack).

Pekovic at anything near a max deal is fool's gold. He will never live up to such a contract and anyone who gives him one will regret it almost immediately and REALLY regret it 2 or 3 years down the road when your 30-year old often injured center is in decline and tying up a huge chunk of your cap space.

BNM

Like I said, I haven't watched him enough, if he's really that poor on defense then you're right he's probably not worth the money or effort. It'll be interesting to see how Olshey approaches things this off-season: trades, sign-and-trades, offer sheets, trading into the draft, etc.
 
I didn't realize Pek was that old, may as well just go after an unrestricted FA like Al Jefferson. I think he's a better rebounder anyway. Utah will probably not want to spend a lot of money on him with Millsap being a FA and having Kanter and Favors there.
 
If he's restricted, why would the Wolves let us have him? I think we should take a gamble on Andreq Bynum.

Bynum? U cannot be serious! The guy is going to want a max contract (or close to it) and his knees are already pretty fukked up, how can anyone want to take a chance on that?
 
I don't get the infatuation with Pekovic. It seems like a lot of posters here are projecting their own desires and team needs onto him because he may be the best obtainable center, but let's get serious. Pek is a poor defender and an average rebounder. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

He does give you low post scoring, but I'd rather keep Hickson for less money. At least Hickson is an elite rebounder. Hickson shoots a higher FG%, rebounds better, blocks as many shots, and has a higher WS/48 than Pek. He's also 3 years younger, more durable and likely quite a bit cheaper. Plus he can also play PF.

Although he shoots a lower FG% than Hickson, Pek is more of a scoring threat. With Love out, Pek is currently Minnesota's #1 option on offense, but he only scores about 2.5 more PTS/36 that Hickson, who is the Blazers #5 option on offense with almost no set plays run for him.

I said it an another thread, I'd rather retain Hickson, for less money, and continue to develop Meyers Leonard than spend big bucks on Pek. Hickson can then move to the bench and back up both the 4 and 5. He would be great in that role. Meyers is very raw, but he has much more defensive potential than Pek or Hickson. He just needs time (as in 2+ years) to develop, but he has all the tools to be a great defensive center and by the time he's starting, he'll only be 22 or 23. For what it could likely take to get Pek, we could retain Hickson and probably sign a solid veteran back-up PG or SG (Redick or Jack).

Pekovic at anything near a max deal is fool's gold. He will never live up to such a contract and anyone who gives him one will regret it almost immediately and REALLY regret it 2 or 3 years down the road when your 30-year old often injured center is in decline and tying up a huge chunk of your cap space.

BNM

But if we could use Leonard and some other players for him; then we can still retain Hickson too.
 
MM, why do you hate Leonard? He's not very good, but he has abilities/size/strength/frame/athleticism that can't be taught. By all accounts he's bright enough and interested enough to learn. What's not to like, except that he sucks now?
 
I didn't realize Pek was that old, may as well just go after an unrestricted FA like Al Jefferson. I think he's a better rebounder anyway. Utah will probably not want to spend a lot of money on him with Millsap being a FA and having Kanter and Favors there.

Pek and Jefferson have roughly the same rebound rate.
 
With what I'm reading I hope that Pek is our "last ditch effort" at C. And that Jefferson isn't even an option, along with Bynum.
I haven't seen Kaman play in a couple years, but maybe he'd be a better option on a 2-year contract - certainly cheaper, and he was once a solid defender/rebounder.
 
I am on board with Jefferson over Pek. They both have their fleas but I can't see throwing Max at Pek just to hope MIN doesn't match. Jefferson probably doesn't get MAX himself. Restricted guys get overpaid more than even Unrestricted as teams have to go above and beyond to try to steal a guy.
 

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