Pendergaph vs TrOut
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Jeff's aggressive attitude is an intangible that this team has really needed for quite some time. Personally, I am not as afraid for our ability to score w/o Trout as I am for our rebounding and toughness in the second unit with out JP.
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To be fair, if this poll were Tolliver v TrOut, I'd probably still not pick Travis...
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JP - Assuming he is consistent and that we have Bayless in the "sparkplug", get yer own shot scorer role.
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I think B-REXXX brings that attitude as well.
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This team needs a guy who can rebound and isn't afraid to get his nose dirty? Gee, which player does that sound like?
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As usual...Couldn't agree more.
Yeah, I agree, but I think it's key that the guy who supplies the toughness isn't necessarily the littlest person on the floor. Y'know, someone a little more imposing.
Don't get me wrong, Bayless' attitude is awesome, too.
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If I had to choose between the two - I want to see more of Pendergraph before I make that choice. Can he consistently do what he's done the last few games? And can he stay healthy? He's had some wierd injuries - he had a tumor in his leg at ASU. Maybe just a fluke?
I can see both of them being part of the rotation, depending on what happens at the 5 spot. Can Greg stay healthy? Can Joel? Although JP is undersized, he's a nice insurance policy to have.
I can see both of them being part of the rotation, depending on what happens at the 5 spot. Can Greg stay healthy? Can Joel? Although JP is undersized, he's a nice insurance policy to have.
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Travis has a role, but I think it shouldn't be the PF. Offensively, he can take advantage of some of them, but not defensively. Rebounding, beef and inside presence is what JP can offer. Travis can't.
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I like JP's potential. He has a mean streak and looks like he can be an enforcer like the role Dale Davis played. If he can keep this up he solves a lot of our problems in the frontcourt with his rebounding and hustle points.
He also has a 35" vert at 6'10" 250 lbs, that's impressive.
He also has a 35" vert at 6'10" 250 lbs, that's impressive.
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I hope we resign Travis for a deal like the one Marty got and do not have to choose between them. We can play them as needed, based on matchup, needs - and they both will give you nice production for the salary.
If we have to choose one over the other - the real question is - how reliable are Joel and Greg going forward, if not - Jeff-P will get the nod, if they are - Travis is a more needed commodity.
But, at the end of the day, I hope we can keep them both for the next 3-4 years. That would be awesome.
If we have to choose one over the other - the real question is - how reliable are Joel and Greg going forward, if not - Jeff-P will get the nod, if they are - Travis is a more needed commodity.
But, at the end of the day, I hope we can keep them both for the next 3-4 years. That would be awesome.
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I think they can co-exist. I think the real question in the future is Outlaw or Cunningham?
The way I see it, as does Jason Quick, Pendergraph is a Center.
The way I see it, as does Jason Quick, Pendergraph is a Center.
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since I'm not positive Travis is going to be healthy ever again on our team, I take JP.
If Travis was healthy? He's more talented than JP, but I'm not positive he's more experienced (yes, I realize what I just wrote). He's also not really a position we need (as others have said).
EDIT: Didn't see Fez's post. I agree. And right now I'd take Travis over Dante. Rookie still has to show me a lot more.
If Travis was healthy? He's more talented than JP, but I'm not positive he's more experienced (yes, I realize what I just wrote). He's also not really a position we need (as others have said).
EDIT: Didn't see Fez's post. I agree. And right now I'd take Travis over Dante. Rookie still has to show me a lot more.
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Travis vs. Yi would make your head explode,though. And in that case, I'm not sure I wouldn't pick Travis.
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I know. Some people would even select a prime Michael Jordan over Outlaw. All a bunch of haters on this site.
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Get a grip, Eric.
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agree. we need some toughness.
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you would have to be crazy to pick lebron over travis..........
This was so stupid I've actually got a little headache.
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Wow 20 to 1 Pen. I'm not the one! 
I think Pen is PF and he fills the role we were missing last year. Even if Joel and Oden stay healthy we need a back up PF like him. I think he is exactly the type of player that Roy said we needed at the end of last season.
I think Pen is PF and he fills the role we were missing last year. Even if Joel and Oden stay healthy we need a back up PF like him. I think he is exactly the type of player that Roy said we needed at the end of last season.
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No offense, but some of you are thinking too much like Nate. This doesn't have to be an either/or question.
Forget the notion of having a rigid rotation - play the match-ups! Against some teams, you need the blue-collar-banger....and against others, you want the 1-on-1-scorer.
If what we are seeing from JP is real...and that has yet to be verified...he has a place with this team. OTOH, there are things that Trout can bring to the table that JP can't.
Forget the notion of having a rigid rotation - play the match-ups! Against some teams, you need the blue-collar-banger....and against others, you want the 1-on-1-scorer.
If what we are seeing from JP is real...and that has yet to be verified...he has a place with this team. OTOH, there are things that Trout can bring to the table that JP can't.
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I'd like to vote for DuJuan Blair, but apparently we didn't realize he was still on the board and failed to draft him. Starting in place of Time Duncan tonight, he had 21 rebounds and 28 points; I don't think either Outlaw or Pendergraph will ever approach that.
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pgraph is decent, but its not as if he is going to light the world on fire, he is a career back up, and likely nobody outside of blazer fans even know he is on an nba roster. as far as being OUR backup, i think that is fine, but there really are better options out there.
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I didn't vote as my choice wasn't an option.
Jeff is looking like an athletic & coordinated inside banger with decent size for a 4... I'd compare him to Carl Landry. I think he really compliments LA when he slides to the 5. Travis is a size smaller and much more of a wing. Dude is a great go option at the end of the clock and an above average 3 point threat. The roster is 15 deep these days so thats an average of 3 guys at every position.
They've got JP on a rookie deal at least through next season and I doubt TO will be breaking the bank next offseason in this economy... I'll vote for having both on the cheap thanks
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Jeff is looking like an athletic & coordinated inside banger with decent size for a 4... I'd compare him to Carl Landry. I think he really compliments LA when he slides to the 5. Travis is a size smaller and much more of a wing. Dude is a great go option at the end of the clock and an above average 3 point threat. The roster is 15 deep these days so thats an average of 3 guys at every position.
They've got JP on a rookie deal at least through next season and I doubt TO will be breaking the bank next offseason in this economy... I'll vote for having both on the cheap thanks
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