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No, really, people were talking about players with zero coaching experience landing assistant coaching jobs. Not only is (was?) Damon an assistant coach without experience, he did it with a dong sized roll of dooby in his jockey's. Let's not worry about Buck, ok?
 
The worry isn't them just being an assistant, it's them being a GOOD assistant. I don't give a shit if Damon got a job coaching with Memphis. I care about someone who has never coached before potentially being our big man coach, and playing a large role in the improvement and development of a franchise cornerstone.
 
Was the Blazer gig the first for Lucas? I can't recall. Not that it would be any indication of his achievements as a coach. Unfortunately, he really didn't get an opportunity to deliver.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I love Buck, but I'm not overly thrilled about the hire. Just as I wasn't thrilled with Luke as the big mans coach.


Most everyone agrees that Oden holds the key to our future success, and the one thing he needs more than anything else is someone to help him with footwork. Buck was a rebounding stud and tough guy, but he wasn't known for his footwork down low.


Good hire, but meh
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Not to be pedantic, but he was known for his good footwork (and other fundamentals) - on defense. The notion that Buck was just a "tough guy" is way off base.

If he can teach Oden to play good defense and rebound without getting into foul trouble, that will be a big plus.
 
A couple of things. People say Mo Lucas didn't do much, well it's kind of hard to do much when you are fighting cancer. The facts are, Mo Lucas didn't get to do a lot of coaching the last couple of years, so it's kind of hard to judge him on it when he really didn't get to do anything. The other thing being, that Oden was hurt anyhow. It's hard to coach players who can't play because of physical reasons, unless you think Oden should have got out there and learned the footwork of wheelchair basketball.

Secondly, Buck Williams was one of the best position defenders and rebounders at his position, but before he came to Portland, he was a 20 point per game player. A walking double double. Maybe, just maybe if you thought about something besides Oden (Aldridge) you might recognize why he was brought in. What are Lamarcus weaknesses? Rebounding. Position defense. Lamarcus has all the tools he needs. Except the mental aspect of the game. Greg Oden is not the only player on this team.

Lastly did any of you ever think Buck is just one of many who are being brought on. I fully expect another assistant or two to be brought on.
 
Lucas wasn't fighting cancer Aldridge's first two years in the league. Why isn't Aldridge tough?
 
Don't worry about Buck working with Greg and LMA, because he was brought in to coach Bayless...
 
Sweet zombie Jesus.

Is this the new board meme? Anybody who joins the team post KP will be hated?

Between the people who want to deny KP any credit for anything, and the people who act like the world has ended, this place is losing its' collective mind!
 
oldmangrouch said:
Sweet zombie Jesus.

Is this the new board meme? Anybody who joins the team post KP will be hated?

Between the people who want to deny KP any credit for anything, and the people who act like the world has ended, this place is losing its' collective mind!
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Nice over reaction. Nobody hates Buck. People happen to have differing opinions on the hire. Is that unacceptable to you? Sorry.

great hire! yay! Bring back the whole crew from the 90s! Toughness! yay!
 
RR7 said:
Nice over reaction. Nobody hates Buck. People happen to have differing opinions on the hire. Is that unacceptable to you? Sorry.

great hire! yay! Bring back the whole crew from the 90s! Toughness! yay!
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What is unacceptable to me, is that people are taking a player known for his high BBIQ and great fundamentals, and are dismissing him as just a "tough guy" with nothing to teach younger players. We aren't talking about some thug here - Williams was a very good basketball player.
 
oldmangrouch said:
What is unacceptable to me, is that people are taking a player known for his high BBIQ and great fundamentals, and are dismissing him as just a "tough guy" with nothing to teach younger players. We aren't talking about some thug here - Williams was a very good basketball player.
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Hmm, guess I'm not seeing that from really anyone specifically, or am reading it differently.
 
oldmangrouch said:
What is unacceptable to me, is that people are taking a player known for his high BBIQ and great fundamentals, and are dismissing him as just a "tough guy" with nothing to teach younger players. We aren't talking about some thug here - Williams was a very good basketball player.
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I'm leery because he's been out of basketball for over ten years, I'm leery because he was never really known as a "skill" guy and I'm leery because I don't believe you can teach "toughness" (mostly). I hope he works out because it would be a not only a great story, but I think Greg and LMA need better fundamentals on offense in particular (though LMA could stand to learn a thing or two about setting picks and boxing out).
 
Let's not undersell what Buck brought to the court, and his fundamentals. I think Buck could teach them how to rebound, maybe even better than Lucas could. Buck played 300 more games, and still averaged 10 boards a game (which is more than Lucas). You add 300 games to Lucas's career #'s, and I doubt his #'s would be as impressive. Buck had twice as many years with double digit rebound averages. He also averaged more blocks per game too. Buck was very underrated in the start of his career. He was an 17-12-1 guy for the first 7 years of his career.

He was a beast.
 
I know Lucas was a tough guy. But watching the old 70s games--they were a lot less physical. Buck had to wrestle with Malone and other physical post players. I think Buck's game translates to today's game better than Luke's did.
 
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I think Gary Payton would be a solid addition to the staff. He's been a player development coach (out of Vegas) for the past few years.
 
I do think people tend to forget how much scoring Buck did before coming to the Blazers. I have to go by stats. I lived in Alaska and didn't even know basketball existed until I moved here in 1987 and discovered the Blazers and have followed them every since. Buck had to have some offensive skills to post the numbers that he did.

Buck is a smart man. I personally think that he will translate to coaching or front office work really well whatever he decides to do for his future.

Looks like we got a lot of experience with the other two coaches we are hiring. I think we can take a chance with a rookie assistant coach...
 
I don't want this to turn into some kind of hate fest on Buck -- I loved him just about more than any other Blazer and there's not a snowball's chance in hell the Blazers don't get to the Finals without him -- that said, he averaged almost 4.5 offensive rebounds per game when he was in New Jersey while only attempting about 11 field goal attempts per game; he got a ton of his offense off of putbacks and he shot a ton of foul shots. Buck didn't have a whole lot of finesse or post-ups in his game, so don't expect him to revolutionize the way that LMA and Greg score from the block.

On the other hand if there's anyway he can make LMA a better rebounder and defender, and if he can make Greg even better on defense and even better on the offensive boards then I'm all for it. I hope he works out ... for real.
 
The Professional Fan said:
No, really, people were talking about players with zero coaching experience landing assistant coaching jobs. Not only is (was?) Damon an assistant coach without experience, he did it with a dong sized roll of dooby in his jockey's. Let's not worry about Buck, ok?
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Or maybe you didn't mean Oden sized when you wrote that.
 
So let me get this straight. According to Nate

Buck will more than likely handle the bigs

Bernie will do whatever

Ociepka will handle the defense

Does that mean Mr Sonic is still in charge of the offense?
 
Mediocre Man said:
So let me get this straight. According to Nate

Buck will more than likely handle the bigs

Bernie will do whatever

Ociepka will handle the defense

Does that mean Mr Sonic is still in charge of the offense?
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:ghoti:
 
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