Phil Jackson-- Attainable?

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http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5146034

"I know Phil will be coaching next year, somewhere. Whether it's here or someplace else I don't know," Buss said. "There's going to be a lot of good jobs that come up this summer."

Buss wouldn't elaborate on which jobs might interest Jackson if he doesn't extend his career with the Lakers. But she was emphatic that the choice isn't limited to Jackson returning to the Lakers or retiring.
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In March, Jackson told reporters that he isn't leaning one way or another, but that winning a title was virtually the only way to ensure he'd return.

"Yeah. If we win it's almost imperative to give it another shot, but there are a lot of ifs in there. Winning is a really big if," Jackson said. "There are four playoffs you have to get through before you can say that we won and we have a chance to do something special and unique again.

"I think how we make it through the year has a lot to do with it. [Lakers owner] Dr. [Jerry] Buss said that he put some things on the line by re-signing Lamar [Odom], so it's financial. This team has never lost money since he took over the team so that's a big part of it. I pushed him to sign Lamar and we all said we have to have this guy back even if it's going to put this team in jeopardy financially. At a time when it's tough in this league he took the step."
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I hate this guy for his arrogance, but his track record has been stellar. I would love to see what he can do with this loaded roster. I'd be okay with PA throwin $$$ at the guy for a shot at the title.
 
I don't think he's done that great of a job this year. I was reading in the LA Times that players are staying after practice to work with Artest because he still doesn't know the offense. Artest is crazy but he ain't stupid. Would the triangle work with this team? Roy is a lot of things but a MJ or Kobe he's not.
 
Our roster is anything but loaded, depleted is more like it, and Jackhole has never been one to seek out a challenge.

That's why his record is what it is. He only coaches the most stacked teams in big markets where he's guaranteed an easy go of it.

Most over-rated coach in the league.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I don't think he's done that great of a job this year. I was reading in the LA Times that players are staying after practice to work with Artest because he still doesn't know the offense. Artest is crazy but he ain't stupid. Would the triangle work with this team? Roy is a lot of things but a MJ or Kobe he's not.
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He's been very stubborn at the point guard position as well. He plays Fisher too much, doesn't really seem to acknowledge his huge flaws.
 
Oh, I'm certain that his work ethic isn't nearly as strong as Nate's, and he probably doesn't have as good a rapport with his players like Nate does either. But he does have experience, and that's huge in the playoffs.

And while Roy doesn't have the scoring drive that the other two did, he's still plenty capable. And the triangle was instilled as a means to take apart those box and 1s and doubling defenses that teams played against Jordan. Roy faced similar defenses this year, and had quite a bit of trouble with it. I think he'd benefit most from having Jackson as coach.
 
I think it was Kobe that realized he needed to start covering Westbrook. He told Phil he wanted to guard that guy, otherwise it still would have been Fisher I believe.
 
MARIS61 said:
Our roster is anything but loaded, depleted is more like it, and Jackhole has never been one to seek out a challenge.

That's why his record is what it is. He only coaches the most stacked teams in big markets where he's guaranteed an easy go of it.

Most over-rated coach in the league.
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Talent isn't everything. There have been lots of teams over the years that have been stacked with talent but didn't win. LeBron could really use a Phil Jackson to get over the top. The 2000 Blazers could've used him. The 97 & 98 Jazz could've used him. The Kobe (and Shaq) Lakers couldn't win before or after him. The Bulls couldn't win before him. The Suns have never won and they've had a ton of talent over the years. The Mavs haven't won. They could use him.

Phil has been good at taking talent players and getting them to the finish line like no other coach in the history of the game.
 
MARIS61 said:
Our roster is anything but loaded, depleted is more like it, and Jackhole has never been one to seek out a challenge.

That's why his record is what it is. He only coaches the most stacked teams in big markets where he's guaranteed an easy go of it.

Most over-rated coach in the league.
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When healthy, I think we have the deepest team in the league, with essentially every skill and need covered.
 
He's going to follow LeBron and likely will end up in Cleveland.

You know Phil, he doesn't like a challenge. What would he do with a roster without a player of Jordan & Pippen, Bryant & Oneal's caliber?
 
KingSpeed said:
Talent isn't everything. There have been lots of teams over the years that have been stacked with talent but didn't win. LeBron could really use a Phil Jackson to get over the top. The 2000 Blazers could've used him. The 97 & 98 Jazz could've used him. The Kobe (and Shaq) Lakers couldn't win before or after him. The Bulls couldn't win before him. The Suns have never won and they've had a ton of talent over the years. The Mavs haven't won. They could use him.

Phil has been good at taking talent players and getting them to the finish line like no other coach in the history of the game.
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Phil didn't do a great job in last year's post-season either. Again we had the same issues at the 1. Except Fisher played at an average level in the Finals (helps that Nelson was injured) and Kobe, Gasol, Odom, Ariza were very hot throughout the post-season.

Shannon Brown was feeling it and clearly defending Billups/Deron better. Either Shannon or Farmar was superior against Houston and the quickness of Brooks.
 
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huevonkiller said:
I think it was Kobe that realized he needed to start covering Westbrook. He told Phil he wanted to guard that guy, otherwise it still would have been Fisher I believe.
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So basically the Lakers should fire Phil and have Kobe coach? I'm on board with that!
 
Phil Jackson is NOT attainable. At least, not by us. The only team I can conceivably see him leaving the Lakers for would be the Bulls if they got Dwayne Wade (or LeBron James...). He'll only coach in a huge market that has the players to compete for a championship. That's all he's ever done - why would he change now?

This is posturing to get the Lakers to pay out the big bucks. Surely they've learned from the last time they tried to go without Phil how much he's worth?
 
Phil wouldn't come here unless Paul Allen paid him 10 times the salary he could get anywhere else. And he's certainly not worth that cost.

I'm not a huge fan pf Phil, but I guarantee you he would have benched Rudy long ago if he were coaching this roster in the playoffs. He doesn't suffer crappy European players well.
 
craigehlo said:
Phil wouldn't come here unless Paul Allen paid him 10 times the salary he could get anywhere else. And he's certainly not worth that cost.

I'm not a huge fan pf Phil, but I guarantee you he would have benched Rudy long ago if he were coaching this roster in the playoffs. He doesn't suffer crappy European players well.
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I'd sooner eat glass than have Phil Jackson involved with my beloved basketball franchise.
 
BlazerBeav said:
I'd sooner eat glass than have Phil Jackson involved with my beloved basketball franchise.
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This.

I've hated that douche for so long now, what with his "mind games" he plays constantly, to faking an injury to avoid having to watch his team suffer another defeat in Portland...no, keep him as far away as possible from the Blazers.
 
I would take him here, and be thoroughly happy we got him.
 
Wheels said:
I would take him here, and be thoroughly happy we got him.
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I guess you're a better person than me then :lol:

I don't know, I've always rooted against Phil Jackson-coached teams, mostly because of how cocky he is. For me, it'd kinda be like the Blazers hiring Joey Crawford as the new fan ambassador...you know, it just wouldn't feel right.
 
EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS said:
I guess you're a better person than me then :lol:

I don't know, I've always rooted against Phil Jackson-coached teams, mostly because of how cocky he is. For me, it'd kinda be like the Blazers hiring Joey Crawford as the new fan ambassador...you know, it just wouldn't feel right.
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lol I promise I am not claiming to be better than anyone who says no. I just have taken the stance for a while, that I want a championship. If Phil is the coach that gets us that ring, then I will be fine with it. I have rooted against him for years as well... but for a championship I will swallow whatever pride I have for that. :cheers:
 
Pull the trigger. If you ever get a chance to land an elite coach you should jump on the opportunity, and not look back.
 
hasoos said:
Pull the trigger. If you ever get a chance to land an elite coach you should jump on the opportunity, and not look back.
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agreed
 
Wheels said:
I would take him here, and be thoroughly happy we got him.
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Same. I think his attempted "mind games" are silly and ineffective, but he's a top-notch coach.

I think there would be some initial struggles as he implemented the triangle. It is, though, an offense that should work with Portland's players...all of the big three are good passers for their position and Miller and Batum are definitely good passers. A motion offense should also better leverage the high level of athleticism of Aldridge and Oden, rather than having them play static post games.
 
huevonkiller said:
No it just means Phil is slightly incompetent.
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He's old, dude. Cut him some slack. Let's see what you're doing when you're his age, whether you're being PERFECT managing YOUR NBA team. Everyone's a critic.

(Also, when you're managing your NBA team, can I have a job? Thanks!)
 
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