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Nothing has changed. We get pushed around in the paint wether its greg, joel, or camby out there. That tells me that Roy and LA are soft. Batum is a skeleton... i mean theres no muscle out there at all. If the jumpers arent falling we are finished vs teams like denver. Barkely has said it a million times.... until the blazers get a dominant post player, this is what they are. Good season record and a 1st round exit. Its the truth... get used to it.


I just read quicks recap of the game and is disturbing...

Batum says no Utah.

Miller says No lakers.

Roy admits denver controls him.

Who would the bLazers like? A bye in the first round? Talk about soft. And people here think this teams winning a title? they are more concerned with who to avoid rather then who to beat. Really upsetting. Thats not how winners think. Its how scared pretenders think.
 
Did you guys notice how many times that Batum, Camby, Webster, etc, just stood there within the key and let Denver score easy buckets right in the lane? No heart to hustle and try to block the shot. That was just gross to watch tonight.
 
it was like watching a bunch of guys being bullied. the blazers are waaaaaay to soft. they have that rep around the league. why do you think teams like utah, denver, boston, cleveland always beat us? they get tough... and the blazer hate it. we are like the mavs... SOFT
 
the blazers are waaaaaay to soft. they have that rep around the league. SOFT

How in the fuck do you know what teams around the league think of the Blazers toughness? Spend a lot of times with other NBA team's scouts?
 
HCP, if you watched the game tonight our Blazers looked dumb and confused around the basket and took no heart to defend at times. And Denver scored easy.
 
hcp is a company guy... i get that

but im being honest and so is natedogg. try to be at least fair hcp.... i doubt they will fire you for being honest about these softies
 
HCP, if you watched the game tonight our Blazers looked dumb and confused around the basket and took no heart to defend at times. And Denver scored easy.

They looked horrible on their week side help D. They were so intent on helping with Mello, they were letting guys get easy ass hoops. Anybody can see that. It just gets old when shit for brains starts a new thread about how horrible the Blazers are at this and how terrible they are at that after every loss! Fuck, these guys looked dead tired out there and got whipped tonight plain and simple. We didn't get to the hotel til 3AM if that means anything. It was one game and lets move on. Dallas looked like shit on the defensive end tonight also with a days rest. It happens.
 
They looked tired plain and simple.
 
Well, HCP, it still doesn't show the fact that our blazers just stood there around the basket and let the Nuggets drive into the paint and score. No heart. That was pitiful tonight to watch on TNT.
 
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I don't understand the logic when the team couldn't get to Denver anytime sooner?

We left at 11:00......... 2 1/2 hour flight to Denver/ lose and hour/ 35 minute drive from airport to downtown Denver. If you know a short cut, holler. I was not using the guys being tired as an excuse for this loss though.
 
We lost a tough one and we didn't look good out there... its not the first time its happened and its not going to be the last. Making threads and pretty much saying were screwed really isn't very productive and all it does is show that you watched a game were we sucked and figured out why we sucked. Guess what? The coach is paid to do that too... even if you think mcmillian sucks he isn't stupid. Him and the other assistant coachs will watch the tape and figure out what we did wrong so this wont happen again. As for Roy and LMA being soft... people have tossed the idea of LMA being soft out their a lot, their might be something to that, as for Roy being soft... Go ask ANY player in the NBA if Roy is easy to gaurd. Noone will tell you that he is easy and even Kobe came out and said that Roy was one of the best offensive players in the game.
 
It's the same as last year. We didn't want Houston. We don't want Utah or Denver this year. I would love to get the Mavs or Suns, but I would even take the Lakers over the Nuggets or Jazz.
 
And last summer, people were actually questioning why the team would offer that big a deal to Millsap.

While I am still baffled by KP's flirtation with Hedo, his pursuit of Miller and Millsap was dead on target.
 
HCP, if you watched the game tonight our Blazers looked dumb and confused around the basket and took no heart to defend at times. And Denver scored easy.

Agreed. Especially LMA and Webster. No drive, tenacity or heart.
Guys just standing around watching.
Pathetic.

The Blazers team on the floor, as a by-product of the coaching staff and their techniques, are just getting outclassed in almost all areas.

Other coaching staff seem able to get much more from less talented rosters. (note the no-name guys who always blow up playing the Blazers=lack of defense on our part and better coaching on their part)
 
Other coaching staff seem able to get much more from less talented rosters. (note the no-name guys who always blow up playing the Blazers=lack of defense on our part and better coaching on their part)

The worst byproduct of Oden's injury is Nate getting a free pass for this season. In reality, Oden's absence should expose Nate's defensive coaching deficiencies and lack of offensive creativity.

Forget the U of O. Can the Blazer hire Tom Izzo?
 
They looked horrible on their week side help D. They were so intent on helping with Mello, they were letting guys get easy ass hoops. Anybody can see that. It just gets old when shit for brains starts a new thread about how horrible the Blazers are at this and how terrible they are at that after every loss! Fuck, these guys looked dead tired out there and got whipped tonight plain and simple. We didn't get to the hotel til 3AM if that means anything. It was one game and lets move on. Dallas looked like shit on the defensive end tonight also with a days rest. It happens.

That actually does explain a lot. They DID look dead out there last night, and I couldn't figure out why. They had Monday and Tuesday off, and it was hard to look at last night's game as a back-to-back when you consider that they were up by 30 points at halftime the night before and everybody got to rest in the 2nd half. So I'm wondering why they looked like they were in quicksand last night. But I forget about things like jet lag and getting into town at 3:00 A.M. I'm not too worried about last night. Denver is 31-6 on their home floor, and it was just one of those nights where our guys couldn't hit anything. It happens. But to say we got bullied around by a their physicality doesn't seem accurate to me (not you "The") Rebounds were 36-36 (they only had 9 offensive boards) We shot 28 FT's to their 26. Billips got hot at the end of the 3rd and was blowing by Rudy or whoever else was trying to guard him. Then Melo hit a bunch of jumpers in the 4th to pull away. Nobody got pushed around. And we are not soft!
 
I don't know, it was an ugly, timid game from the Blazers but I have a hard time making any sweeping generalizations about their 'heart' and ability to play playoff basketball when it comes against a rested and desperate Nuggets team at home. I'm just hoping they can show a little more competitive fire when it comes to playoff time.
 
We left at 11:00......... 2 1/2 hour flight to Denver/ lose and hour/ 35 minute drive from airport to downtown Denver. If you know a short cut, holler. I was not using the guys being tired as an excuse for this loss though.

I'm not buying it. We had an easy game against NY and rested our starters. There was no excuse for the second half defense. None. Yeah, I know "it happens", but still it was just plain lazy play.
 
Agreed. Especially LMA and Webster. No drive, tenacity or heart.
Guys just standing around watching.
Pathetic.

The Blazers team on the floor, as a by-product of the coaching staff and their techniques, are just getting outclassed in almost all areas.

Other coaching staff seem able to get much more from less talented rosters. (note the no-name guys who always blow up playing the Blazers=lack of defense on our part and better coaching on their part)

I'm sorry. I thought we were 11-2 in March and hadn't lost back to back games since Feb (Boston & Utah) I didn't realize we were getting "outclassed in almost all areas".

I dissagree with your "no name" theory also. Nate's philosophy many nights is to make the other team's 2nd, 3rd, 4th scoring options beat us (instead of the #1) When you focus so much on defending a team's #1 scoring option, that IS going to leave other guys with decent shots. Sure, sometimes that bites you in the ass. But I'd rather have J.R. Smith and Arron Afflalo shooting jumpers than Carmelo beasting everybody we throw at him, while scoring 40+ points and fouling out all of our front line.
 
Yeah, Greg and Joel get pushed around in the paint. Who does that to them, MIXUM? If you don't answer (as usual), I'll just chalk it up as another ignorant, inflammatory statement.

Go Blazers
 
Nothing has changed. We get pushed around in the paint wether its greg, joel, or camby out there. That tells me that Roy and LA are soft. Batum is a skeleton... i mean theres no muscle out there at all. If the jumpers arent falling we are finished vs teams like denver. Barkely has said it a million times.... until the blazers get a dominant post player, this is what they are. Good season record and a 1st round exit. Its the truth... get used to it.


I just read quicks recap of the game and is disturbing...

Batum says no Utah.

Miller says No lakers.

Roy admits denver controls him.

Who would the bLazers like? A bye in the first round? Talk about soft. And people here think this teams winning a title? they are more concerned with who to avoid rather then who to beat. Really upsetting. Thats not how winners think. Its how scared pretenders think.

Dude, if you think Oden and Przybilla are soft then I just don't know what to say...

I agree that we're going to have trouble with physical teams with our current make-up, but there's not a hell of a lot we can do about it at this point. Nobody is expecting us to win the championship this season. If Greg comes back healthy, and I think he will, most of our problems are solved. I still think we need a good backup PF, ala Millsap, but what you gonna do?
 
I'm sorry. I thought we were 11-2 in March and hadn't lost back to back games since Feb (Boston & Utah) I didn't realize we were getting "outclassed in almost all areas".

Just like last year, we take care of business against the cream puff teams but crumble in the face of a teams that play solid D. Our March was nice soft schedule of the Kings, Grizz, Pacers, Raptors, Hornets, Wiz and Knicks. We wen't .500 against the good teams, losing to the Nuggs and Suns but beating the Thunder and Mavs.

This team isn't getting "outclassed," but it's getting out-coached yet again down the stretch.
 
Nobody is expecting us to win the championship this season. If Greg comes back healthy, and I think he will, most of our problems are solved.

We had a somewhat healthy Oden for part of last season and Nate had no idea how to use him. If Oden were to miraculously play a full healthy season at some point, we still have issues shooting too many jumpers and getting high percentage shots for our guards. In Nate's offense, Oden just gives us an edge on the boards and blocks.

Last season showed that Oden's presence is no guarantee of any sort of success. Particularly in the playoffs.
 
jaynes nails it..


People constantly ask me why I have concerns about the Trail Blazer coaching staff. Hey, Nate’s a Coach of the Year candidate, right? And they won all those games in the face of a rash of injuries.

Well, I have never thought you judge coaches only on how many games they win. Expectations differ by talent level of the teams. Winning games is one thing, but how a team plays is quite another. All season long, it wasn’t as if the Trail Blazers lacked talent — you judge talent of teams by who is playing, not who is NOT playing. Portland was never totally without talent. This was never a Clippers or Warriors situation.

But put that aside, what I saw Thursday night out of the Trail Blazers in Denver is what drives me nuts. And this happens not just in Denver but whenever the Trail Blazers play a good team with a chance to prepare for the game — in other words, teams and situations the franchise is going to face in order to ever get to a championship level.

There’s Brandon Roy out there at the top, dribbling the ball around helplessly trying to beat his man one-on-one against a defense stacked against him. This is what the coaching staff thinks is going to carry them to the next level? Seriously? Look, I’m not saying Brandon Roy isn’t an all-star — I’m saying he isn’t Kobe Bryant or LeBron James and he can’t just repeatedly manufacture good scoring chances by himself.

Why isn’t there a system in place to help him get good shots? Yes, there’s that pick-and-roll. And by now aren’t we all sick of watching a “big” set a screen for Roy and him not using it? And the big not driving hard to the basket, rather than just drifting a few feet to the side for a long jumper?

I just can’t stand the fact that so much of what the Trail Blazers do comes strictly off one-on-one play. That stuff is fine for a possession or two late in a game but you can’t play that way all night. You’ve got to move the ball, move bodies, set picks and make plays for each other. And man, when Charles Barkley on TNT calls you out almost every week for your inability to have any sort of inside or post-up game, don’t you at least listen? I mean, even Chuck knows what’s wrong and nobody is taking this to heart?

On so many nights against good teams with a chance to prepare, this is what we see.

And oh, don’t even get me started on what the team does on the defensive end. Good grief, you can’t expect to continue to give up uncontested three-point shots and dunks and have a real chance to consistently win big games. It’s so funny to hear TNT commentators who are supposed to know basketball talk about Portland’s defense being solid, based on the archaic “points-against” statistic rather than anything useful.

It’s not a good defensive team, particularly in playoff or playoff-like situations (when teams have a chance to get prepared). Portland does not contest enough shots. It does not help well enough inside.

And these problems at both ends of the court are institutional. They have to do with how this team is being taught — or not being taught — to play.

You can continue to be satisfied with how many games are being won and all that. You can congratulate the team for continuing to play hard in spite of adversity, but really — if it continues to play the way it is, it’s never really going to get anywhere in the post-season.

Unless it draws a team in the playoffs that pays less attention to detail than it does. And that’s not too likely.
 
I don't know, it was an ugly, timid game from the Blazers but I have a hard time making any sweeping generalizations about their 'heart' and ability to play playoff basketball when it comes against a rested and desperate Nuggets team at home. I'm just hoping they can show a little more competitive fire when it comes to playoff time.

This just shows how soft you are, Nik. No heart! No killer instinct! Fortunately for all of us, we have some posters here who show no such reservations. Forget every win, dismiss every strong effort by this team -- last night's game defined them, plain and simple. Sorry, but it's the truth.
 
I would trade LA and Webster for the draft pick of Cousins in a heart beat. This kid can bang, rebound and will be the Boozer type of player the Blazers need without a doubt!

Anyone who thinks yesterday was just a bad game might want to watch it again. Utah and Denver own us! They know it, and so do our Blazers. The Blazers have no tough guys, Utah and Denver are built to beat ya up. If our team doesn't get tougher in a hurry this team will be a three or four seed in their own division for years to come!

It should also be noted that Roy with his 14 points is not an elite player. Good... Yes, Superstar not even close. Superstars don't score 14 points in must win games on national TV. Think KD, Lebron, Kobe or Carmelo would have been content with 14 points and a shot at a better playoff spot?
 
Cousins will be a monster on the glass in the NBA, you'll see! LA is a poor mans Sheed!
 

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