Plan B?

[Wheels]

Lou Amundson as a backup 4? He is annoying on other teams but might not be as bad on your own team lol.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I don't quite get why we'd want Landry though. He's much too talented to be playing 12 mins behind LMA, and he can't play SF or center.

Perhaps there'd be some use for him if Aldridge was moved in some kind of deal? LMA's BYC status makes him somewhat tougher to move, but not impossible.

 

[Idog1976]

I don't quite get why we'd want Landry though. He's much too talented to be playing 12 mins behind LMA, and he can't play SF or center.

Injuries happen. Also we could then send LMA on for an asset NOH likes.

 

[Idog1976]

Perhaps there'd be some use for him if Aldridge was moved in some kind of deal? LMA's BYC status makes him somewhat tougher to move, but not impossible.

Beat me to it.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Here's my alternate sacto-pdx trade:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=26kgy5w

 

[Minstrel]

I think that's a pretty fair deal. Bayless will probably emerge as the best player in the deal, IMO. But I guess I'm not as big of a Landry fan as some are.

Essentially my thoughts, too.

 

[Idog1976]

Here's my alternate sacto-pdx trade:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=26kgy5w

Um...wtf Nik did you recently become a Kings fan or something? Udrih and Thompson for LMA?

 

[Idog1976]

Essentially my thoughts, too.

You seem him playing alongside Evans in the back court?

 

[Minstrel]

You seem him playing alongside Evans in the back court?

Sure. Neither is a pure point guard, both have some passing ability. Sacramento already considers Evans to be their possible point guard of the future. I think Bayless would be a great fit next to Evans...defend point guards, be more of a scoring guard alongside Evans.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Um...wtf Nik did you recently become a Kings fan or something? Udrih and Thompson for LMA?

No, not a Kings fan -- though I confess a soft spot for the Peja-Webber-Bibby-Christie teams of the early aughts -- I am however more than happy to see Rich Cho pluck the useful players from another team if the opportunity ever arises. I rate Landry and Aldridge roughly equal in terms of their impact on the court, but I think Landry is tougher, plays harder on D and is a better scorer (because he has ball-handling and face up ability that Aldridge doesn't). Thompson might be a nice backup 4-5 to have around and could fill in as a starter if more injuries befall Greg or Camby (and when Camby retires), lastly I like Udrih as a backup point guard who could probably play well off of Brandon because of his better than average shooting and the fact that he's a pretty good at the pick and roll.

 

[Minstrel]

I rate Landry and Aldridge roughly equal in terms of their impact on the court, but I think Landry is tougher, plays harder on D and is a better scorer

Wait, what? You rate them equal in on-court impact, but you view Landry as tougher (which I take to be short-hand for rebounding), a better defender and a better scorer? Where do you feel Aldridge catches him to make it equal? As a passer?

 

[B-Roy]

Perhaps there'd be some use for him if Aldridge was moved in some kind of deal? LMA's BYC status makes him somewhat tougher to move, but not impossible.

I'd rather have Aldridge than Landry, player wise.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Wait, what? You rate them equal in on-court impact, but you view Landry as tougher (which I take to be short-hand for rebounding), a better defender and a better scorer? Where do you feel Aldridge catches him to make it equal? As a passer?

Aldridge probably has more versatility in terms of the numbers of players he can effectively cover, but Landry seems like a better man-to-man defender and as mediocre as LMA's rebounding numbers are Landy might be worse (or he's gotten worse since his rookie year) -- Landry is a better offensive rebounder whereas LMA is the better defensive rebounder. Secondly, Landry is better around the basket area, while LMA is probably a bit better in the mid-range ... if you add that all up I see them as fairly comparable talents, but they bring different skill-sets to bear, and I tend to favor the kinds of skills that Landry could bring to this team.

http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=1&p1=aldrila01&y1=2010&p2=landrca01&y2=2010

I think the numbers bear that out.

 

[STOMP]

Aldridge probably has more versatility in terms of the numbers of players he can effectively cover, but Landry seems like a better man-to-man defender and as mediocre as LMA's rebounding numbers are Landy might be worse (or he's gotten worse since his rookie year) -- Landry is a better offensive rebounder whereas LMA is the better defensive rebounder. Secondly, Landry is better around the basket area, while LMA is probably a bit better in the mid-range ... if you add that all up I see them as fairly comparable talents, but they bring different skill-sets to bear, and I tend to favor the kinds of skills that Landry could bring to this team.

so LA (IYO) is the better high post player and more versatile defender, but you'd rather pair Landry with Greg?

regardless, the Kings are in conference...

STOMP

 

[andalusian]

Here's my alternate sacto-pdx trade:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=26kgy5w

Yuck.

LMA might never be a #1 option on a good team, but he is better than all these fools together.

Landry is great "for a short guy that might be a tweener based on size" - but LMA is a better player - even if he is not the toughest mofo for his size.

 

[Nikolokolus]

so LA (IYO) is the better high post player and more versatile defender, but you'd rather pair Landry with Greg?

regardless, the Kings are in conference...

STOMP

I said versatile, not more effective and Landry's range extends out to 18 feet, he just prefers to play from the elbow or mid-post. As for him playing with Greg he'd be fine. Regardless, I didn't expect people to be blown away by this deal, these are just off-the-cuff ideas.

 

[STOMP]

Yuck.

LMA might never be a #1 option on a good team, but he is better than all these fools together.

Landry is great "for a short guy that might be a tweener based on size" - but LMA is a better player - even if he is not the toughest mofo for his size.

Basically agreed. I like a 4 who can effectively cover 5's on switches. At over 2" shorter then LA, thats not Carl. He's probably best utilized off the bench.

STOMP

 

[andalusian]

Basically agreed. I like a 4 who can effectively cover 5's on switches. At over 2" shorter then LA, thats not Carl. He's probably best utilized off the bench.

Add the fact that Landry is actually 2 years older than LMA...

Anyway, the way I see it, we have a poor man's Landry on the team, his name is Dante Cuningham - and given his age and what looks like big improvement in his ability to put the ball on the floor and attack from the dribble - he could close the distance to Landry some. I'd rather have LMA and Landry-lite than Landry and Landry-light on this team.

 

[MARIS61]

Completely replace Blazer ownership, management, and coaching staff, and build this team around Nic, Rudy, LaMarcus and Greg so it can get out and run. Trade Roy and the 10 bench guys we have for a real PG.

 

[Idog1976]

Aldridge probably has more versatility in terms of the numbers of players he can effectively cover, but Landry seems like a better man-to-man defender and as mediocre as LMA's rebounding numbers are Landy might be worse (or he's gotten worse since his rookie year) -- Landry is a better offensive rebounder whereas LMA is the better defensive rebounder. Secondly, Landry is better around the basket area, while LMA is probably a bit better in the mid-range ... if you add that all up I see them as fairly comparable talents, but they bring different skill-sets to bear, and I tend to favor the kinds of skills that Landry could bring to this team.

http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=1&p1=aldrila01&y1=2010&p2=landrca01&y2=2010

I think the numbers bear that out.

Wow, I had no idea Landry was that good numbers wise. Interesting, something to ponder. Eye opener Nik and not the usual bourbon I'm used to.