Plausible CJ trades that don't involve the Sixers?

[wizenheimer]

ClutchPoints: Blazers: 3 best CJ McCollum trades to make Portland contenders.
https://clutchpoints.com/blazers-3-best-cj-mccollum-trades-to-make-portland-contenders/

none of those trade ideas are realistic. Trading CJ isn't going to return Sabonis, or Siakam, or Heild + Haliburton. Other teams know what CJ is and they know his value....it's not nearly that high

 

[Cugel]

Cleveland, Rubio. Take back bad contracts, cj is overpaid

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

ClutchPoints: Blazers: 3 best CJ McCollum trades to make Portland contenders.
https://clutchpoints.com/blazers-3-best-cj-mccollum-trades-to-make-portland-contenders/

Is this guy a Blazer homer? I would love to get Sabonis, Siakam or Hield and Halliburton, but none of those clubs would do those trades (although he doesn't really say what Blazers would give up). It would take a lot more then CJ to get any of those.

 

[Hoopguru]

Cleveland, Rubio. Take back bad contracts, cj is overpaid

Sure id consider that if nothing better is available.

 

[Minstrel]

No, talking about the present.

Yeah, but you're talking about him being a nutcase his whole career. Clearly, it hasn't impacted his desirability as a basketball player.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

He was hired in 2006 as a capologist, so who do you think hired or signed off on hiring him? Nash?

2006? It would have to have been PatterNash.

 

[Minstrel]

Bring back Tom Penn. @EL PRESIDENTE

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Still think the team that would view CJ as having the best value would be a contender seeing him as a third scorer. So, basically the Nets. (Or maybe the Lakers, but... ugh. I guess I'd take THT, but they seem to think he's Young LeBron, so...)

 

[Rastapopoulos]

No idea what i m doing here, but I think this makes us better lol

Lillard/Powell/DFS/Sabonis/Kleber is a balanced starting 5 in my opinion. It's not a contender, but it can play much better defense. Nurkic is better than Kleber, but Kleber is a better fit next to Sabonis as he is a very good shooter. DFS can be our defensive stopper in the perimeter. A player with size and mobility.

Why Mavs do it? They downgrade at SF, but they have trying to find a starting C for ages and maybe they like Nurk in that role. They like Europeans as well
Why Pacers do it? Yeah that's the tricky part because Sabonis is better, younger and in a more team friendly contract but their team's chemistry is a shitshow and LeVert is not playing well so they might try shake things up and bring him off the bench and start CJ. If it was last year's RoCo would be an easy sell, but he has been a disappointment this year so yeah maybe they ll ask a pick as well.

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That kinda seems like making a trade just to make a trade...

 

[Rastapopoulos]

What does "Covid times" have to do with it? Kyrie not getting vaccinated makes him ineligible to play in New York (as a Knick or Net), but not in Philadelphia.

I agree he's a nutcase, but he always has been--that doesn't mean he's not viewed as a valuable basketball player.

I think we're forgetting the Boston years. He well and truly trashed his value playing there.

 

[GDiama]

That kinda seems like making a trade just to make a trade...

Not sure what you expect to get for Nurk, CJ and RoCo. Two expirings and a very bad contract. You definitely not getting an All Star. Well in fact I included one, Sabonis!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Not sure what you expect to get for Nurk, CJ and RoCo. Two expirings and a very bad contract. You definitely not getting an All Star. Well in fact I included one, Sabonis!

Indy is basically the East's Portland. If you really hate Nurk and RoCo, better just to let them expire than acquire somebody else's dead weight.

I think the team that wants RoCo (and I bet there are a fair number - he's a defensive savant when used right) is not the same that wants CJ.

Also trading Nurk is dumb.

 

[GDiama]

Indy is basically the East's Portland. If you really hate Nurk and RoCo, better just to let them expire than acquire somebody else's dead weight.

I think the team that wants RoCo (and I bet there are a fair number - he's a defensive savant when used right) is not the same that wants CJ.

Also trading Nurk is dumb.

In that trade i didn't include anybody else's dead weight though. I included an All Star + 2 decent role players that are good defenders which this team is lacking. Btw they are both expiring.

Not considering trading Nurkic is dumb. He is not a difference maker so he should certainly be on the table. And with what he has said so far we risk losing him for free.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

In that trade i didn't include anybody else's dead weight though. I included an All Star + 2 decent role players that are good defenders which this team is lacking.

Not considering trading Nurkic is dumb. He is not a difference maker so he should certainly be on the table. And with what he has said so far we risk losing him for free.

Now I look more closely at your trade, it is a pretty interesting one. But I tend to think that larger trades are exponentially more unlikely. Indy might talk itself into (essentially) Sabonis for RoCo and CJ (basically siding with Turner in the battle of the "which center do we keep"), and indeed, might be a better and more balanced team as a result. But that's factoring out hometown loyalty, which, for small market teams, is huge. Sabonis is probably a bit of a cult hero in Indy, especially as he's really worked to improve and hasn't left them in the lurch.

Meanwhile, yes we get Sabonis, but he's a step down defensively from Nurk, and we're already 30th in the league defensively! Plus we give up THREE starters for one, and Sabonis ain't that good (otherwise the Pacers would be better).

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Atlanta's biggest issue last year, and at time this season, was shot creation. Would they be willing to include Jalen Johnson and Cam Reddish alongside Gallinari's horrible contract in exchange for CJ?

Hmm...


Hawks currently on a roll, which is good: they might convince themselves they're contenders who just need one more piece... Or, if we're dreaming, two more pieces:



I would kiss the feet of our new GM if he could pull that one off.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Or, if Atlanta want to keep Gallinari because he's actually an important part of their rotation, and we're prepared to just eat a bunch of salary by waiving a ton of people:

 

[GDiama]

Maybe we can find a fool?

 

[Haakzilla]

MeJ must vacay!!
MeJ must vacay!!
MeJ must vacay!!

 

[e_blazer]

Here’s a text that Quick received from CJ after he interviewed him last night:

“Oregon is home,” McCollum wrote. “Always will be. I got married here. My son will be born here. We bought 318 acres here and started planting our vineyard here. This city and organization have been very good to me and my family. We’re forever grateful.”

That sounds interesting.

 

[perkinsfor3]

Atlanta's biggest issue last year, and at time this season, was shot creation. Would they be willing to include Jalen Johnson and Cam Reddish alongside Gallinari's horrible contract in exchange for CJ?

I know the Celtics want to address their PG situation, and although CJ isnt a real PG, he fits the mold the Celtics have liked over the past few years (and failed with, though). Don't see what they could give up and what would be realistic. We aint getting Jaylen Brown.

Dallas would love CJ but have nothing of value to offer. Ditto for Denver. Ditto for Lakers. Ditto for Bucks. Ditto for Clippers, although I like Boston, Johnson and Scrubb if you'd go into full rebuild. But you don't want to have anything to do with those vets. Memphis would probably have to ship too many pieces to make it work, and they have a much cheaper, but probably just as valuable player in Desmond Bane. Knicks have nothing to offer and Thibs wouldnt like CJ.

Indiana could offer Myles Turner and TJ Warren, who's done as an impact player (was he ever, outside of the bubble?) or Myles and Lamb. I think getting Myles would allow us to flip Nurk as well - I wouldn't play them together.

NOP is a mess - I'd probably call them first and see if they'd be willing to part with Brandon Ingram. He'd be a nice fit. When they're allowed to trade Hart, I'd be interested in including RoCo in the deal as well, so Hart comes back our way.

Orlando has a lot of nice, young pieeces. Not sure if CJ fits their plans. Its a shame Isaac is an anti vaxxer and horribly injury prone.

Sixers are obvious. Toronto probably could offer Siakam, with Barnes and OG looking like the future. I'd much rather have OG, obviously. Raps also just re-signed Trent.

Kings have enough talent at G as is.

Not too many options.

"
Ben Simmons was one of several defensively minded wing players who Lillard has expressed interest in playing with since the 2020 offseason, along with Jaylen Brown and Aaron Gordon, sources said."

 

[B-Roy]

"
Ben Simmons was one of several defensively minded wing players who Lillard has expressed interest in playing with since the 2020 offseason, along with Jaylen Brown and Aaron Gordon, sources said."

Where is this from?

 

[B-Roy]

Here’s a text that Quick received from CJ after he interviewed him last night:

“Oregon is home,” McCollum wrote. “Always will be. I got married here. My son will be born here. We bought 318 acres here and started planting our vineyard here. This city and organization have been very good to me and my family. We’re forever grateful.”

That sounds interesting.

Sounds like every other time McCollum has talked about trade rumors.

 

[illmatic99]

Where is this from?

Jake fischer's new article



he hosts a call from 1-2 pacific on tuesdays/thursdays on this app. there's usually only like 15 people or so on it and ive gotten my questions answered every time. definitely a can't miss in my mind because of how plugged in he is and how candid he is on that call.

 

[B-Roy]

Jake fischer's new article



he hosts a call from 1-2 pacific on tuesdays/thursdays on this app. there's usually only like 15 people or so on it and ive gotten my questions answered every time. definitely a can't miss in my mind because of how plugged in he is and how candid he is on that call.

I made a new thread on that article because its just SO good. It's a Blazer fans wet dream in terms of inside information. Holy crap the amount of new information in there....

 

[illmatic99]

I made a new thread on that article because its just SO good. It's a Blazer fans wet dream in terms of inside information. Holy crap the amount of new information in there....

usually his chats on tuesdays pertain to the article he's written that week. definitely gonna try to log on this afternoon if i don't have other meetings.

 

[B-Roy]

usually his chats on tuesdays pertain to the article he's written that week. definitely gonna try to log on this afternoon if i don't have other meetings.

I'll try to listen in. Doubt he will have more than what was in that article though.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

It's bullshit fake drama like this that makes me NOT want CJ to be traded

 

[GDiama]

I think if we are committed to making the team better and not rebuild then we should check with the Pacers

 

[illmatic99]

 

[B-Roy]

I think if we are committed to making the team better and not rebuild then we should check with the Pacers

That sounds like picks and or young players. Problem with any of those guys is you need to send salary along with. Indiana is not going to value our guys with big salaries so that means trading multiple rotation players or young guys for players that may not even be upgrades.