Plausible destinations for our vets?

[BankTeller]

I honestly don’t think they need to be packaged and I think we get better value if they’re split up. They account for a lot of money together.

What is the best package you can think of for just RWIII? I struggle to see any reason for any team to give anything of significance for him alone, whereas attaching him to Ant or Grant in a win-now move for any other team might help us secure that second 1st in any deal for Ant or Grant.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I heard Timelord salary can fit into the new full MLE trade exception. Anyone know what teams didn't use that and would be able to just acquire him for a pick in a trade?

 

[illmatic99]

I heard Timelord salary can fit into the new full MLE trade exception. Anyone know what teams didn't use that and would be able to just acquire him for a pick in a trade?

i think doing so would trigger the hard cap for such a team. not sure teams would do this for RWIII unless they are: 1) desperate, 2) close to a title

 

[blazerkor]

i think doing so would trigger the hard cap for such a team. not sure teams would do this for RWIII unless they are: 1) desperate, 2) close to a title

It would hard cap them but only for the rest of this season. So if it's the last or only trade they make at the deadline it would only handicap the acquiring team's ability to acquire players in the buyout market.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

i think doing so would trigger the hard cap for such a team. not sure teams would do this for RWIII unless they are: 1) desperate, 2) close to a title

I don't think desperate matters, but they're may not be many teams that have the mle unused with enough space under the hard cap and yes a legit playoff team. Actually might not be any team which fits all of that criteria. OKC would be the type of team but I think they used cap space or the mle on Hartenstein.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

It would hard cap them but only for the rest of this season. So if it's the last or only trade they make at the deadline it would only handicap the acquiring team's ability to acquire players in the buyout market.

Yeah agreed the hard cap isn't a big deal at all, especially around the trade deadline.

It's a lot different if it's trigger July 1st like when we signed GP2 and there's 8 more months of trades being possible.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm not sure any of Ant Ayton Grant are worth a first rounder. If so then great I'll be in very pleasantly surprised.

If not I hope they're dumped for whatever Cronin can get as I'd prefer a different vet that doesn't have an expectation of a starting role/touches as these guys feel entities too.

Also I really want to dump Grant's contract as that could be a boat anchor in a few years.

I still think we can pry a pick from LA.

I think RWIII could go to a team like OKC. They're thin in their frontcourt with Chet out, right?

 

[MickZagger]

Would it not be a little bit funny to pull off a trade sending Grant and Ant to the Bucks for Giannis? I think Dame might just retire.

Maybe they’d throw in Lillard too?

 

[Cugel]

Sort of a rhetorical question but does CLE make any moves to go all in this year? They don't need stars but maybe more depth??? A playoff series against a fully healthy BOS team could well go 7 games and a Cav is bound to go down for at least a few games between now and then. Thybulle, Ant, Timelord?? Doubt JG or DA would appeal to them because of salary etc.

 

[LayneStaley]

Simple 4-Way

5 players out, 5 in. Pelicans are in a money crunch with Ingram so they buy an extra year with Ayton. We clear out our “starters”, see how Ingram looks with the young guys or move him again. Buyout Russell, sit Vincent at the end of the bench, play Rui or trade him, keep Black with the young guys. Obviously I want at least 1 LAL 1st and other picks will be involved.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I still think we can pry a pick from LA.

I think RWIII could go to a team like OKC. They're thin in their frontcourt with Chet out, right?

If we pry a pick from LA that'll be great, I just doubt we will be able to.

OKC has the #1 defense even without a center, they're so quick and force so many turnovers. Hartenstein should be back in the next few weeks.

I'd guess if Timelord is healthy until the trade deadline he likely has the most value and might fetch a Josh Hart level of return with a late FRP. However Grant Ayton Ant have much larger contracts that contenders don't have room for any longer with the 2nd apron.

I just don't see it being possible that a contender both fits their salary and coughs up a pick. The demand is probably a bit worse for them now that they're having such poor seasons too. Look at Ants %, and hes known to be a big negative on defense.

I'd strongly expect all three of Grant Ayton Ant are here after the trade deadline, which is so depressing. I'd happily take a worthless Clippers trade return if the alternative is keeping their ball hogging play on the team.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Heat-fan proposal involving Ant. Dude must hate Herro to propose that...

https://fanspo.com/nba/s/heat/trades/TxSAPl746tF3Iw/heat-go-all-in

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The Hornets basically don't have a center at this point. Any chance they'd be interested in Ayton?

 

[RR7]

The Hornets basically don't have a center at this point. Any chance they'd be interested in Ayton?

I can see it, although looking through their roster to find a deal that's palatable is tough. Martin, Williams/Green, and Micic gets you there $$ wise, but Williams and Green each have 3 years on their deals. If we could find a taker for one of them, I'd do it, however.

 

[beast blazer]

Can y’all get off that Ben Simmons band wagon?

When are you going to accept that Ben Simmons is a bust and will never amount to the player he looked capable of becoming (for a short time)?

He's a massive expiring contract, that's why he's in trade proposals.

 

[beast blazer]

This is a give away. I don't think you're going to get assets for Ayton. Best we can do is get out of his contract a year early.

 

[RR7]

This is a give away. I don't think you're going to get assets for Ayton. Best we can do is get out of his contract a year early.

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Milwaukee can't aggregate salaries

 

[SharpesTriumph]

This is a give away. I don't think you're going to get assets for Ayton. Best we can do is get out of his contract a year early.

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Bucks can't aggregate salary.

Portis is better than Ayton.

Also Dame hates Ayton, that's why the Blazers didn't acquire him for Nurkic a year earlier.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Here's one idea



-Pelicans may not want Ayton salary for Ingram but if they can cut CJ's deal who is nearly the same $ as Ayton and just have DeJonte at PG maybe they'd go for it.
-Pistons add more shooting
-Heat get role players they'd rather have for similar money. If we didn't have the CJ history I'd probably just prefer we keep him but its likely best CJ goes to a 3rd team

We get a decent backup big in Stewart on a reasonable deal, and cut salary with Hardaway expiring. Rozier/Duncan wouldn't complain about being backups as much as Simons/Ayton.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Then get a pick from the Lakers and one from the Thunder;



Our lineup would be;

Banton - Scoot
Sharpe - Rozier
Camara - Rupert - Murray
Deni - Duncan
Clingan - Stewart - Vanderbilt
2 FRP

Flip/buyout/cut all of Vincent/Kenrich/JHS/Wood/Hardaway

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Salary cap next season would go from this;
36 Ayton
32 Grant
28 Simons
13 Timelord
12 Thybulle

to this
25 Rozier
19 Duncan
15 Stewart
11 Vanderbilt
11 Vincent

So would save about 40million

Plus have more expiring movable contracts for trades next year. Stewart & Vanderbilt are the only ones that would go beyond next season.

 

[RR7]

Then get a pick from the Lakers and one from the Thunder;

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Our lineup would be;

Banton - Scoot
Sharpe - Rozier
Camara - Rupert - Murray
Deni - Duncan
Clingan - Stewart - Vanderbilt
2 FRP

Flip/buyout/cut all of Vincent/Kenrich/JHS/Wood/Hardaway

You need to cut 3 people before pulling off a 5 for 2 swap.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

You need to cut 3 people before pulling off a 5 for 2 swap.

Thats simple - Walker, Duop, and Scoot.

 

[RR7]

 

[beast blazer]

Pistons have enough cap space to take on Simons in exhange for Tim Hardaway's expiring. They could pair him with Cade Cunningham in the backcourt.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I’m probably out of my mind but I wouldn’t trade RW for anything less than 1st rounder. “If” he stays healthy he’s a difference maker for championship level team

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I’m probably out of my mind but I wouldn’t trade RW for anything less than 1st rounder. “If” he stays healthy he’s a difference maker for championship level team

Totally agree, needs to be at least a decent first rounder. If he is healthy from now until the deadline Id think he is worth that.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Totally agree, needs to be at least a decent first rounder. If he is healthy from now until the deadline Id think he is worth that.

if I’m being honest I don’t want to trade him at all! That said, I don’t have his medical records so I don’t know if he’s just been injury prone or if he’s got BRoy knees. Makes it easier for me to say I wouldn’t take less than a good 1st rounder for him because I don’t want him gone even then I’d be upset because I love his game. Maybe best big we’ve had in last 20 plus years.

 

[RR7]

Pistons have enough cap space to take on Simons in exhange for Tim Hardaway's expiring. They could pair him with Cade Cunningham in the backcourt.

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They already have Jaden ivey alongside cade who has been playing really well this year. Doubt they bench him for simons

 

[SharpesTriumph]

if I’m being honest I don’t want to trade him at all! That said, I don’t have his medical records so I don’t know if he’s just been injury prone or if he’s got BRoy knees. Makes it easier for me to say I wouldn’t take less than a good 1st rounder for him because I don’t want him gone even then I’d be upset because I love his game. Maybe best big we’ve had in last 20 plus years.

He's like a quicker more athletic version of Brian Grant.