Exclusive Players Tribune - Allen Iverson

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Shaboid said:
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/life-and-times-of-allen-iverson

He is definitely one of the more controversial players in the modern NBA, and I am a huge fan personally. Some people here probably hate him. This was an interesting read either way. I wish he would have handed the keys of a Bentley over to me!
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People who hate him probably are racist. #yesisaidit.

And "practice" was taken so far out of context.

His best friend was JUST killed. No he didn't give a fuck about practice. Neither would I....
 
Since I live close to Philly, I can tell you the region appreciated his effort and determination. Iverson had almost every body part injured. He carried on like a hockey player rather than a snob basketball millionaire.
 
dviss1 said:
People who hate him probably are racist. #yesisaidit.

And "practice" was taken so far out of context.

His best friend was JUST killed. No he didn't give a fuck about practice. Neither would I....
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Iverson and Sheed were my favorite non Blazer and Blazer from that era.

I win.
 
You know AI had has problems, he’s admitted to them several times, but the guy played his heart out. I loved watching him play. I love what he has become as a man too, he’s matured, he’s passionate, and most importantly to me he’s taken all those ups and all those downs and become a vocal leader. He’s willing to say what he thinks what he believes, he admits to his mistakes.

AI is one of my favorite basketball players ever.
 
kjironman1 said:
Sheed could play but was a terrible player. Never really learned how to play the game in the NBA. Certainly not while on the Blazers.
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He was a great player, it was about getting him to assert the greatness, that was the problem. So much talent but didnt have mentality to be the alpha. Weird reading someone say he was a terrible player...
 
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TorturedBlazerFan said:
He was a great player, it was about getting him to assert the greatness, that was the problem. So much talent but didnt have mentality to be the alpha’s. Weird reading someone say he was a terrible player...
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This.

I don't know anything firsthand but I always thought he wanted everything to be fair. To a fault, which was why I thought he let the refs get to him..
 
Iverson was pound for pound the toughest, more fearless little guy to play the game as a franchise star...Mugsy was tough but Iverson was a star...he'd climb Shaq's chest to make a layup...I'm talking throughout his prime..it's probably why he was taped up like the Mummy all the time. Guy was a scoring machine..couldn't guard a paper bag though...Mugsy was that guy
 
kjironman1 said:
Might be to you. But i didn't ever really like the way he played.
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So I can take a step back and try to understand where you're coming from, can you elaborate on that? Obviously you don't have too, I just feel like were talking about two different players. So I'm interested to hear why you think he wasn't a good player.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
So I can take a step back and try to understand where you're coming from, can you elaborate on that? Obviously you don't have too, I just feel like were talking about two different players. So I'm interested to hear why you think he wasn't a good player.
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The player i watched did not play the game well. The player i watched was not good at playing NBA basketball.
Wallace could shoot and score. He had the quickness to create but wouldn't do it. He had the size and length to be a premier defender but wouldn't do it. He could bang and make an impact around the rim but rarely did it. His three point shooting which he decided was his best shot was not his best shot at all. His career numbers at 3pt were 33% but in Portland he was mostly in the 20's. But that didn't keep him from shooting them.
I watched this guy single handedly destroy a team that should have won a championship if not 2. 15 point meltdown to lose after throwing a towel in Sabonis's face. Literally what the fuck was he even thinking?
His shenanigans on and off the court did no one any good. He hated Portland from the get go.

Personally i don't see much at all that this guy did that was worthy of respect or even a nod from this fan base.
There is no reason to discuss this. The dude hated Portland and the team. He hated the fans. He disrespected the owner as well as the coaches. The Technicals didn't help the team. You can have a bunch of talent but if you can't play the game and follow the rules you are of no use to the team. Just because it's been 18 years doesn't mean we forget.
 
kjironman1 said:
The player i watched did not play the game well. The player i watched was not good at playing NBA basketball.
Wallace could shoot and score. He had the quickness to create but wouldn't do it. He had the size and length to be a premier defender but wouldn't do it. He could bang and make an impact around the rim but rarely did it. His three point shooting which he decided was his best shot was not his best shot at all. His career numbers at 3pt were 33% but in Portland he was mostly in the 20's. But that didn't keep him from shooting them.
I watched this guy single handedly destroy a team that should have won a championship if not 2. 15 point meltdown to lose after throwing a towel in Sabonis's face. Literally what the fuck was he even thinking?
His shenanigans on and off the court did no one any good. He hated Portland from the get go.

Personally i don't see much at all that this guy did that was worthy of respect or even a nod from this fan base.
There is no reason to discuss this. The dude hated Portland and the team. He hated the fans. He disrespected the owner as well as the coaches. The Technicals didn't help the team. You can have a bunch of talent but if you can't play the game and follow the rules you are of no use to the team. Just because it's been 18 years doesn't mean we forget.
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Lol...
 
I loved AI. He was a beast. But that article isn't worth reading. I don't feel like it accomplished anything, just a bunch of rambling.
 
Would have to agree with @dviss1 on Sheed. He would be a monster at the 4 on this team. He wasn't as good as he could have been if he had MJ's drive, but his defense and shooting would be amazing in this lineup. I would add him to a short list of guys who could really help Collins.
 
dviss1 said:
People who hate him probably are racist. #yesisaidit.

And "practice" was taken so far out of context.

His best friend was JUST killed. No he didn't give a fuck about practice. Neither would I....
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I’m with you on most things, but to say that people who hate him are probably racist is a little much, no?

Just for the record, I was a fan of his.
 
AI was an overrated ballhog who only scored a lot because he chucked the ball anytime he wanted. He actually shot a very low percentage.
 
And I couldn't stand Sheed because he was a jerk. I'm not sure that makes me racist.
 
Reep said:
Would have to agree with @dviss1 on Sheed. He would be a monster at the 4 on this team. He wasn't as good as he could have been if he had MJ's drive, but his defense and shooting would be amazing in this lineup. I would add him to a short list of guys who could really help Collins.
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So you think Rasheed Wallace would be a "Monster" on this team? Exactly what makes you think anything at all would be any different? Wallace is Wallace.
 
kjironman1 said:
So you think Rasheed Wallace would be a "Monster" on this team? Exactly what makes you think anything at all would be any different? Wallace is Wallace.
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Which was fantastic for the most part. Yeah, he was a loose cannon. Yeah, the team was only as good as his emotions were on any given day. But when things were right with Sheed, we were a stone's throw away from a title. And he proved that was no fluke in Detroit, instantly putting them over the top.
 
handiman said:
Which was fantastic for the most part. Yeah, he was a loose cannon. Yeah, the team was only as good as his emotions were on any given day. But when things were right with Sheed, we were a stone's throw away from a title. And he proved that was no fluke in Detroit, instantly putting them over the top.
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Memory always softens with time. Even more so with people who were not at the games.
 
kjironman1 said:
Memory always softens with time. Even more so with people who were not at the games.
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I have watched probably 90% of Blazer games in the last 25 years or so... My memory’s of sheed were that of an extremely talented basketball player. He was skilled, on both ends. Thats the good.
He also could be volatile, even when he wasnt getting t’d up or ejected he could allow his emotions to get the best of him, or get him off of his game. Would I say he’s one of the best Blazers ever? No. Maybe one of the most talented though. He lacked composure, he lacked things emotionally, and the drive to compete at the highest level to push himself. It wasnt about if he could play, but whether how much desire he had.
I am respectful of your opinion on sheed, but as you say others may have softened on sheed, it is also possible that you didnt like him then and have hardened on him.
He did go to Detroit fit in well, and win a championship and played a role in going to like 5 ECF’s in a row, maybe 6?
 
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