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    'Absurd!': US Billionaires Pay Lower Tax Rate Than Working Class for First Time

    "It's time to tax the billionaires," economist Gabriel Zucman argues in a new analysis.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/tax-the-billionaires

    Billionaires shouldn't be allowed to throw less "In the kitty" than the rest of us do.

    We are all asked to play the game fairly, except for our wealthiest citizens. Exposing the rot in America's system.
     
    Road Ratt said:
    'Absurd!': US Billionaires Pay Lower Tax Rate Than Working Class for First Time

    "It's time to tax the billionaires," economist Gabriel Zucman argues in a new analysis.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/tax-the-billionaires

    Billionaires shouldn't be allowed to throw less "In the kitty" than the rest of us do.

    We are all asked to play the game fairly, except for our wealthiest citizens. Exposing the rot in America's system.
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    I may not always agree with you. I would call it 50/50. However, this is a 100%.
     
    crandc said:
    Absolutely no evidence for any of that but a convenient excuse to murder Jews.
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    what do you mean a convenient excuse to kill Jews? I dont get your point at all.
    I was referring to what is taught in Christianity that Jesus was hated by many not just romans. I realize that the Romans killed him but who then was yelling crucify crucify according to the Bible? Wasn't the Jewish priest the ones that tuned him over to that Pilot dude? I was raised by a religious family and was exposed to that story for years. I'm not a religious person however.
     
    The Christian Bible is not a work of history. It is a collection of legends, many written decades after the events they claim to be reporting. Often internally contradictory.

    For centuries, Easter was preferred but not only time for pogroms in which Jews were robbed, raped, murdered as punishment for allegedly killing Christ. It was not until 20th century that the Pope declared Jews collectively should no longer be punished for death of Christ .I was seven fucking years old when a group of Catholic girls spat on me because I killed Christ. Didn't make sense, he's been dead for ages, how could I have killed him? Hell of a thing for a Jewish mother oto have to explain to a child.
     
    crandc said:
    The Christian Bible is not a work of history. It is a collection of legends, many written decades after the events they claim to be reporting. Often internally contradictory.

    For centuries, Easter was preferred but not only time for pogroms in which Jews were robbed, raped, murdered as punishment for allegedly killing Christ. It was not until 20th century that the Pope declared Jews collectively should no longer be punished for death of Christ .I was seven fucking years old when a group of Catholic girls spat on me because I killed Christ. Didn't make sense, he's been dead for ages, how could I have killed him? Hell of a thing for a Jewish mother oto have to explain to a child.
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    Sorry you had that experience. Most Christians that Ive known/know support Jews and actually some think they are related by faith through Abraham. I agree that all religion is based on a collection of whatever, usually to gain prominence over people. There were evil jewish kings and religious nuts that also killed indiscriminately. Religion regardless of belief, Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Buddhism, , has always been a way for leaders to manipulate, control and kill many in the name of the belief.
     
    crandc said:
    The Christian Bible is not a work of history. It is a collection of legends, many written decades after the events they claim to be reporting. Often internally contradictory.

    For centuries, Easter was preferred but not only time for pogroms in which Jews were robbed, raped, murdered as punishment for allegedly killing Christ. It was not until 20th century that the Pope declared Jews collectively should no longer be punished for death of Christ .I was seven fucking years old when a group of Catholic girls spat on me because I killed Christ. Didn't make sense, he's been dead for ages, how could I have killed him? Hell of a thing for a Jewish mother oto have to explain to a child.
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    The old testament also is based on legends, man made prophecy & theater. I mean, we all can accept things as historical fact or not. Thats why I have hard time with any sect or religion.
     
    crandc said:
    The Christian Bible is not a work of history. It is a collection of legends, many written decades after the events they claim to be reporting. Often internally contradictory.

    For centuries, Easter was preferred but not only time for pogroms in which Jews were robbed, raped, murdered as punishment for allegedly killing Christ. It was not until 20th century that the Pope declared Jews collectively should no longer be punished for death of Christ .I was seven fucking years old when a group of Catholic girls spat on me because I killed Christ. Didn't make sense, he's been dead for ages, how could I have killed him? Hell of a thing for a Jewish mother oto have to explain to a child.
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    I do believe Jesus existed as an historical fact the same why I believe Napoleon existed.
     
    Hoopguru said:
    The old testament also is based on legends, man made prophecy & theater. I mean, we all can accept things as historical fact or not. Thats why I have hard time with any sect or religion.
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    Of course.
     
    crandc said:
    The Christian Bible is not a work of history. It is a collection of legends, many written decades after the events they claim to be reporting. Often internally contradictory.

    For centuries, Easter was preferred but not only time for pogroms in which Jews were robbed, raped, murdered as punishment for allegedly killing Christ. It was not until 20th century that the Pope declared Jews collectively should no longer be punished for death of Christ .I was seven fucking years old when a group of Catholic girls spat on me because I killed Christ. Didn't make sense, he's been dead for ages, how could I have killed him? Hell of a thing for a Jewish mother oto have to explain to a child.
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    Sorry you went through that.

    Yeah, the Bible is mostly allegories and highly exaggerated accounts of things that actually happened, mixed with a bunch of legend.
     
    crandc said:
    There are contemporaneous records of Napoleon.
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    A number of years back, I was in New Orleans and had lunch within few friends on a mezanine terrace on the corner of bourbon street & ?. The person that waited on us said that Napoleon had eaten on the same terrace.
     
    I saw Jesus in my toast this morning. It was a caucasian representation. But I know it was Him because I have faith and He gave me proof in the toast.

    jesus_toast.jpg
     
    I can believe there might have been a rabbi and teacher named Joshua ben Joseph a couple millennia ago. Many legendary figures are based loosely on real people. Many are conflated, the words and deeds of several people merged.
    All religions are based on legends which serve as unifying force. So are countries. Some are harmless. Some are positive. Some are excuses to harm others. Very few have actual evidence.
    Which is why I am an atheist.
     
    Meanwhile...
    Biden has proposed a modest tax increase on the very wealthy. MAGA world calling this a race war against white people although very few would pay more and most would benefit from better services.
    I think of what Lyndon Johnson said in 1964 or 65, which explains archaic language. If you can convince the lowest white man he is better than the Negro, he will vote for things that hurt him as long as they hurt the Negroes more.
     
    crandc said:
    I can believe there might have been a rabbi and teacher named Joshua ben Joseph a couple millennia ago. Many legendary figures are based loosely on real people. Many are conflated, the words and deeds of several people merged.
    All religions are based on legends which serve as unifying force. So are countries. Some are harmless. Some are positive. Some are excuses to harm others. Very few have actual evidence.
    Which is why I am an atheist.
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    I've been an atheist all my life. Until about a year ago. Looking at the science, there seems no way it could all be random in addition to the UFO/alien revelations that have come to the light in more recent years. Also, God means so many different things. I think NHI (non-human intelligence) intervened and created us.
     
    Not sure what you mean by "random" or what UFO revelation you mean, nothing new there at all. No evidence for non human intelligence creator. But your headache. Arguing religion is a waste of time.
     
    crandc said:
    Not sure what you mean by "random" or what UFO revelation you mean, nothing new there at all. No evidence for non human intelligence creator. But your headache. Arguing religion is a waste of time.
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    Except that science has yet to discover the true origins of the universe (yes there is the big bang theory but what was the cause of the big bang). And as of yet the origin of actual life is unknown. How did it all begin - or has it always been but how could that be. It's all still a mystery.
     
    True what happened before big bang is unknown. Which means it's unknown. Not that a god did it. Until 1930s we didn't know why the stars were hot. All known combustion would have burned out in a few thousand years. That didn't mean the universe was a few thousand years old. Or that a god did it. Just that we hadn't discovered nuclear fusion.

    Origins of life are pretty well understood.
     
    crandc said:
    True what happened before big bang is unknown. Which means it's unknown. Not that a god did it. Until 1930s we didn't know why the stars were hot. All known combustion would have burned out in a few thousand years. That didn't mean the universe was a few thousand years old. Or that a god did it. Just that we hadn't discovered nuclear fusion.

    Origins of life are pretty well understood.
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    I'm not saying there is a god - all I'm saying is that unknown is unknown - just that.
     
    Kano John said:
    I'm not saying there is a god - all I'm saying is that unknown is unknown - just that.
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    Which means we probably shouldn't support religious ideas that can be harmful.

    Believe whatever you want as long as that doesn't negatively impact anybody else.
     
    200 billion trillion perfect stars make a strong case for some higher intelligence...until...

    You try to fit in the highly flawed human race.

    There is no way humans are the highest form of life in the universe. At no time in our history did everyone get along, and keep peace on earth.

    My "therory" is. We are the factory seconds. And earth is where all of the universes rejects are sent.

    All of the ufo sightings are the universes carekeepers whose job it is to keep an eye on us. The sightings have greatly increased lately. They probably do not want us to migrate to their neighborhood.
     
    oldfisherman said:
    200 billion trillion perfect stars make a strong case for some higher intelligence...until...

    You try to fit in the highly flawed human race.

    There is no way humans are the highest form of life in the universe. At no time in our history did everyone get along, and keep peace on earth.

    My "therory" is. We are the factory seconds. And earth is where all of the universes rejects are sent.

    All of the ufo sightings are the universes carekeepers whose job it is to keep an eye on us. The sightings have greatly increased lately. They probably do not want us to migrate to their neighborhood.
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    Your theory is just about as sound as many theory's out there today!
     
    Stars aren't "perfect". Not sure what the concept of perfect stars means. They are simply nuclear fusion in various stages. No moral values . Just physics.

    And if someone is watching over us they are doing a hell of a lousy job.
     
    oldfisherman said:
    200 billion trillion perfect stars make a strong case for some higher intelligence...until...

    You try to fit in the highly flawed human race.

    There is no way humans are the highest form of life in the universe. At no time in our history did everyone get along, and keep peace on earth.

    My "therory" is. We are the factory seconds. And earth is where all of the universes rejects are sent.

    All of the ufo sightings are the universes carekeepers whose job it is to keep an eye on us. The sightings have greatly increased lately. They probably do not want us to migrate to their neighborhood.
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    So were all Earth Pirates Like Barfo!
     
    Weekend Update: Kristi Noem Shot Her Dog, Trump Complains About Trial

     
    Kristi Noem was grilled on CBS Sunday show about her lie she stared down Kim Jong Un. She couldn't answer so she blathered about all the unnamed world leaders she had met. Because world leaders line up to meet governor of South Dakota.

    Her talked of killing her dog is about the only thing in her book that isn't a lie.
     
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