Phatguysrule
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Very apt description.
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This is what it's like living through "Deconstruction."
Except Taxi A actually takes you to 15th and kicks you out of the taxi to walk alone, saying sorry, but Taxi B isn't letting them drive to 5th anymore. Which, fine, it's better than Taxi B, but you'd have been better off getting a bunch of friends together and walking.Here is an analogy I ran into last night and decided to screenshot. All credit to random r/politics poster:
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I'll go with Taxi A easy, because this is the choices we have currently, and it is the only valid option.
We're about to be fucked as 50 balkanized nations.We are fucked as a nation.
Texas Panel Denounced Over Attempt to Rebrand Slavery as 'Involuntary Relocation'
One progressive group called the proposal "a blatant attempt to whitewash history to fit a racist worldview."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...ttempt-rebrand-slavery-involuntary-relocation
Texas Panel Denounced Over Attempt to Rebrand Slavery as 'Involuntary Relocation'
One progressive group called the proposal "a blatant attempt to whitewash history to fit a racist worldview."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...ttempt-rebrand-slavery-involuntary-relocation
Yep. And many Democrats don't really believe the shit they are pretending to advocate for. Many Republicans do. At least, they believe it will be good for them.
Most of the Democrats don't actually care if the middle class struggles. It's not personal for them. They'll be fine. So they don't go to the mats for those causes.
I'm not arguing against voting Democrat. I'm arguing that we actually vote for the best Democrat for a change.
Holding democrats accountable for their actions doesn't have anything to do with the opposition. That's team politics bullshit, and it is a huge part of the problem with this country.Once again, you are giving the opposition a pass (They are good honest fascists!) and dumping on your allies for not meeting your standards.
I don't buy your claim that most Democrats don't believe in what they advocate for. Nor do I believe that being moderately wealthy necessarily leads one to lose empathy for those less fortunate. In any case, I think electing only middle-class or poor folk as representatives is going to be a very hard hill to climb, given the state of campaign finance laws, or lack thereof.
Sure, I think we can all agree on that. But there might be differences of opinion about who the best democrat is, and you might be in the minority.
barfo
Holding democrats accountable for their actions doesn't have anything to do with the opposition. That's team politics bullshit, and it is a huge part of the problem with this country.
Yep. And many Democrats don't really believe the shit they are pretending to advocate for. Many Republicans do.
I didn't say being moderately wealthy had anything to do with anything. And I didn't say electing middle class or poor people should be a goal.
Most of the Democrats don't actually care if the middle class struggles. It's not personal for them. They'll be fine. So they don't go to the mats for those causes.
People voted for Joe Biden.
Democrats need to fix that if they want to overcome the challenges we're facing.
Rock Bottom would make a great name for a band ..or a pub.
Rock Bottom would make a great name for a band ..or a pub.
Why did you say the following, then, if not to draw a distinction between the parties?
Sounds like team politics bullshit to me. With particular emphasis on the bullshit part.
It certainly sounded as if you did. What does the following mean, then? Isn't the implication that we need elected officials for whom the middle class struggles IS personal?
Good. At least we agreed that he wasn't the best choice. As should be abundantly clear by now.Sure, ok. He wasn't my first choice either. But my first choice wasn't the same as your first choice, so therein lies the problem.
barfo
It only sounds that way if you want to play team politics and argue. Otherwise you would have posted the whole quote. You choosing not quote the whole post just makes me think you aren't actually interested in having an honest conversation, rather, just another "my team vs your team" bullshit fest.
Good. At least we agreed that he wasn't the best choice. As should be abundantly clear by now.
The Dems NEED to elect the best choice, and they NEED to fix their system so that they do. Otherwise, land will win. And that will be Republicans. The sooner Dems get used to that fact the better off they'll be. Neither Hillary or Biden were the best choice. They weren't close.
I think Obama probably was the best choice available... even though he wasn't all that great.
Yep, as did I.I didn't vote for him in the primary. I sure as hell did in the election to get out Trump.
Someone actually dedicated to solving real problems...But, yeah the Democrats need a better candidate. Someone younger, outspoken, confident.
Yep, as did I.
Someone actually dedicated to solving real problems...
It only sounds that way if you want to play team politics and argue. Otherwise you would have posted the whole quote. You choosing not quote the whole post just makes me think you aren't actually interested in having an honest conversation, rather, just another "my team vs your team" bullshit fest.
Yep. And many Democrats don't really believe the shit they are pretending to advocate for. Many Republicans do. At least, they believe it will be good for them.
Most of the Democrats don't actually care if the middle class struggles. It's not personal for them. They'll be fine. So they don't go to the mats for those causes.
Good. At least we agreed that he wasn't the best choice. As should be abundantly clear by now.
The Dems NEED to elect the best choice, and they NEED to fix their system so that they do. Otherwise, land will win. And that will be Republicans. The sooner Dems get used to that fact the better off they'll be. Neither Hillary or Biden were the best choice. They weren't close.
I think Obama probably was the best choice available... even though he wasn't all that great.
You didn't quote it all in the post I replied to. It's ok, I got yer schtick.First of all, I did quote the entire thing previously in one lump, in post #354. Second, I did quote the entire thing in post #356 also, just in two parts, so that I could respond to each separately. I sometimes split up a post when I respond. Sorry if that makes you think I'm posting dishonestly. Thirdly, I don't see how the whole quote changes anything. But here it is again in the entirety:
My prior comments stand.
Ok. I don't think politics is suddenly going to start working differently, but it's up to you what you want to wish for.
barfo
Good. At least we agreed that he wasn't the best choice. As should be abundantly clear by now.