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donkiez said:
It's very suspicious that these hurricanes seem to strike southern red states during hurricane season. The logical conclusion is that hurricane was leftist revenge for Florida ending vaccine mandates and working go stop child grooming.
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Not to mention all three letters from Ian show up in the word antifa.

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But wait, they decided to hold off. The end of the world er...mRNA poison Covid vaccine will now be activated December 8th. It will coincide with the arrival of the planet Nibiru.
 
Candace Owens rushed to defend Kanye West after his social media accounts were suspended following anti Semitic slurs and threats. She said no honest person could consider his comments anti Semitic.
If the "honest" person is a Hitler admiring Trumper.
 
Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson and Georgia governor Brian Kemp are white Republicans being challenged by Black Democrats, respectively, Mandela Barnes and Stacey Abrams. Both have released attack ads that darken their opponents' skin tone several shades.

Republican motto: racism is us!
 
Since going on anti-Semitic rant, Kanye West has become hero on the right. Indiana's attorney general, who gained notoriety for trying to prosecute the doctor who helped a raped child, called West an independent thinker. Candace Owens, Hitler admiring conspiracy monger, went on Tucker Carlson wearing a white lives matter T shirt to talk about how persecuted he is. (To the right, being criticized is persecution, but they can throw out any insult followed by fuck your feelings.)

White lives matter was one of the slogans the nazis chanted at Charlottesville prior to killing Heather Heyer, along with "Jews will not replace us". Carlson and Owens agere.
 
Tulsi Gabbard began her career as an official Republican by campaigning for Republican nominee for Senate in New Hampshire, saying she wants to turn out female voters for him. This is the candidate who said women's health care should be decided by the gentlemen in the state legislature.
 
An attempt to create an "anti-woke" bank for Real White Americans who find Wall Street too liberal (!) imploded. Despite funding from self hating gay Peter Thiel, it has run out of money. Been sued for not paying bills. They tried to make credit cards out of shell casings and discovered they don't work in card readers. And one of the managers was caught on camera lying unclad on a bed with an unclad companion.

Oh yes, a link for those who think I am making it up.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/anti-woke-bank-immediately-chaos
 
Parkland school shooter avoids death penalty and instead gets to live off taxpayers for the rest of his life.

Why does EVERYTHING have to completely suck in this day and age? Why can't ANYTHING make just a little fucking sense. I hate everything. I shouldn't even read the news anymore.

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The family of 15-year-old Parkland massacre victim Peter Wang says they are “shocked” at the jury’s decision in the Parkland school shooting case.

“It’s just so unjust,” Wang’s cousin Lin Chen said. “We thought this was clear. This monster killed 17 people, how can he live another day?”

She spoke of how Wang’s mother is traumatized after the shooting.

“My aunt has changed forever … She cannot function normally. She cannot sleep, the constant insomnia. And we came here, thought that we could get a little comfort for my family but no, they just pushed them further,” Chen said.

The families of Parkland shooting victims “have to live knowing the fact that the murderer is in the jail every single day, breathing, eating and getting help by their lawyers,” Chen said. “What about the kids? What about the families? This is not about the shooter.”
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After a Florida jury recommended Parkland school shooting gunman Nikolas Cruz be sentenced for life without parole, 49-year-old Chris Hixon’s widow said she was “completely devastated and shocked,” and questioned how the jury did not unanimously find that the aggravating factors outweighed the mitigating factors.

“What it says to me, what is says to my family, what it says to the other families is that his life meant more than the 17 that were murdered … and the thousands of people in that school and that community that are terrorized and traumatized every single day,” Debra Hixon said at a press conference Thursday.
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Fred Guttenberg, the father of 14-year-old Jaime Guttenberg, said the Parkland massacre victims’ families were robbed of justice by a jury’s recommendation to sentence the shooter life in prison rather than the death penalty.

“There are 17 victims that did not receive justice today,” Guttenberg said, addressing reporters outside court.

His daughter was the 16th of the 17th victims whose names were read aloud today. The jury’s recommendations for each count were read in the order the victims were shot.

“This jury failed our families today,” Guttenberg said.
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“I’m disgusted with our legal system,” the visibly angry father said outside court. “I’m disgusted with those jurors.”

Both parents questioned the purpose of the death penalty in Florida’s legal system if not for the case of a mass school shooter.

“What is the death penalty for?” Lori asked.
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“Pressing the barrel of his weapon to my daughter’s chest and that doesn’t outweigh the poor little what’s-his-name had a tough upbringing? I mean society has to really look and re-examine who and what is a victim. Not everyone’s a victim. My beautiful Gina, the other sons and daughters, spouses and fathers — they were the victims here,” he said at a press conference Thursday.
 
noknobs said:
Parkland school shooter avoids death penalty and instead gets to live off taxpayers for the rest of his life.

Why does EVERYTHING have to completely suck in this day and age? Why can't ANYTHING make just a little fucking sense. I hate everything. I shouldn't even read the news anymore.

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The family of 15-year-old Parkland massacre victim Peter Wang says they are “shocked” at the jury’s decision in the Parkland school shooting case.

“It’s just so unjust,” Wang’s cousin Lin Chen said. “We thought this was clear. This monster killed 17 people, how can he live another day?”

She spoke of how Wang’s mother is traumatized after the shooting.

“My aunt has changed forever … She cannot function normally. She cannot sleep, the constant insomnia. And we came here, thought that we could get a little comfort for my family but no, they just pushed them further,” Chen said.

The families of Parkland shooting victims “have to live knowing the fact that the murderer is in the jail every single day, breathing, eating and getting help by their lawyers,” Chen said. “What about the kids? What about the families? This is not about the shooter.”
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After a Florida jury recommended Parkland school shooting gunman Nikolas Cruz be sentenced for life without parole, 49-year-old Chris Hixon’s widow said she was “completely devastated and shocked,” and questioned how the jury did not unanimously find that the aggravating factors outweighed the mitigating factors.

“What it says to me, what is says to my family, what it says to the other families is that his life meant more than the 17 that were murdered … and the thousands of people in that school and that community that are terrorized and traumatized every single day,” Debra Hixon said at a press conference Thursday.
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Fred Guttenberg, the father of 14-year-old Jaime Guttenberg, said the Parkland massacre victims’ families were robbed of justice by a jury’s recommendation to sentence the shooter life in prison rather than the death penalty.

“There are 17 victims that did not receive justice today,” Guttenberg said, addressing reporters outside court.

His daughter was the 16th of the 17th victims whose names were read aloud today. The jury’s recommendations for each count were read in the order the victims were shot.

“This jury failed our families today,” Guttenberg said.
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“I’m disgusted with our legal system,” the visibly angry father said outside court. “I’m disgusted with those jurors.”

Both parents questioned the purpose of the death penalty in Florida’s legal system if not for the case of a mass school shooter.

“What is the death penalty for?” Lori asked.
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“Pressing the barrel of his weapon to my daughter’s chest and that doesn’t outweigh the poor little what’s-his-name had a tough upbringing? I mean society has to really look and re-examine who and what is a victim. Not everyone’s a victim. My beautiful Gina, the other sons and daughters, spouses and fathers — they were the victims here,” he said at a press conference Thursday.
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I'm against suicide across the board, but maybe he will just do everyone a favor in his cell one day.
 
I totally understand the desire for vengeance. I am sure I would feel the same.

But ... principles are for when it's hard. And I am opposed in principle to death penalty.

That's not failing the victims. That's saying if killing is wrong, killing is wrong. That's saying society should not fall to the level of this person who killed those students.
 
crandc said:
I totally understand the desire for vengeance. I am sure I would feel the same.

But ... principles are for when it's hard. And I am opposed in principle to death penalty.

That's not failing the victims. That's saying if killing is wrong, killing is wrong. That's saying society should not fall to the level of this person who killed those students.
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Well said.
 
noknobs said:
Parkland school shooter avoids death penalty and instead gets to live off taxpayers for the rest of his life.

Why does EVERYTHING have to completely suck in this day and age? Why can't ANYTHING make just a little fucking sense. I hate everything. I shouldn't even read the news anymore.

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The family of 15-year-old Parkland massacre victim Peter Wang says they are “shocked” at the jury’s decision in the Parkland school shooting case.

“It’s just so unjust,” Wang’s cousin Lin Chen said. “We thought this was clear. This monster killed 17 people, how can he live another day?”

She spoke of how Wang’s mother is traumatized after the shooting.

“My aunt has changed forever … She cannot function normally. She cannot sleep, the constant insomnia. And we came here, thought that we could get a little comfort for my family but no, they just pushed them further,” Chen said.

The families of Parkland shooting victims “have to live knowing the fact that the murderer is in the jail every single day, breathing, eating and getting help by their lawyers,” Chen said. “What about the kids? What about the families? This is not about the shooter.”
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After a Florida jury recommended Parkland school shooting gunman Nikolas Cruz be sentenced for life without parole, 49-year-old Chris Hixon’s widow said she was “completely devastated and shocked,” and questioned how the jury did not unanimously find that the aggravating factors outweighed the mitigating factors.

“What it says to me, what is says to my family, what it says to the other families is that his life meant more than the 17 that were murdered … and the thousands of people in that school and that community that are terrorized and traumatized every single day,” Debra Hixon said at a press conference Thursday.
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Fred Guttenberg, the father of 14-year-old Jaime Guttenberg, said the Parkland massacre victims’ families were robbed of justice by a jury’s recommendation to sentence the shooter life in prison rather than the death penalty.

“There are 17 victims that did not receive justice today,” Guttenberg said, addressing reporters outside court.

His daughter was the 16th of the 17th victims whose names were read aloud today. The jury’s recommendations for each count were read in the order the victims were shot.

“This jury failed our families today,” Guttenberg said.
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“I’m disgusted with our legal system,” the visibly angry father said outside court. “I’m disgusted with those jurors.”

Both parents questioned the purpose of the death penalty in Florida’s legal system if not for the case of a mass school shooter.

“What is the death penalty for?” Lori asked.
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“Pressing the barrel of his weapon to my daughter’s chest and that doesn’t outweigh the poor little what’s-his-name had a tough upbringing? I mean society has to really look and re-examine who and what is a victim. Not everyone’s a victim. My beautiful Gina, the other sons and daughters, spouses and fathers — they were the victims here,” he said at a press conference Thursday.
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Personally I think giving people like this the death penalty is the easy way out for them. To me they deserve to rot in prison and live a horrible life withering away to die.
 
bigbailes said:
Personally I think giving people like this the death penalty is the easy way out for them. To me they deserve to rot in prison and live a horrible life withering away to die.
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I'm good with that. It costs us taxpayers less as well.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I'm good with that. It costs us taxpayers less as well.
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Yea though with this guy being so young I'm sure it will flip those numbers and he'll cost us a little more since most of those numbers seem to say the death penalty costs us 2x as much but doesn't take into account total life span.
 
bigbailes said:
Yea though with this guy being so young I'm sure it will flip those numbers and he'll cost us a little more since most of those numbers seem to say the death penalty costs us 2x as much but doesn't take into account total life span.
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I'm good with that as well. It still averages out as costing less as policy.

Helps quell the cost of supporting them argument.
 
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