Please Trade Sergio!

[bigbailes]

As anyone who keeps tabs knows that I still enjoy watching Sergio play, unlike most on here. I think in Nate's system he is wasted, as Nate either doesn't know how to utilize him or refuses to allow him to play. I would rather watch him play for another team rather than watch him waste away on the bench in Portland. I'm not saying he is the greatest thing out there or even that he could be a starter some day, but we'll never know in Portland, at least as long as Nate is the coach.

 

[Natebishop3]

As anyone who keeps tabs knows that I still enjoy watching Sergio play, unlike most on here. I think in Nate's system he is wasted, as Nate either doesn't know how to utilize him or refuses to allow him to play. I would rather watch him play for another team rather than watch him waste away on the bench in Portland. I'm not saying he is the greatest thing out there or even that he could be a starter some day, but we'll never know in Portland, at least as long as Nate is the coach.

The biggest issue I have with sergio is that he can't shoot. He might be the best passer on the team, but if he can't knock down a mid-range jumper consistently, how can you have him in the game? Teams are going to sag off him, and then what?

 

[Nikolokolus]

I want him traded but not because of the reasons the OP cites, I want him traded because he's just not that good.

 

[bigbailes]

I want him traded but not because of the reasons the OP cites, I want him traded because he's just not that good.

thanks for rehasing the same opinion for the 1,000th time.

 

[alex42083]

Sergio is still an enigma.. you never know what you're going to get from him each night. Some games, he's just on and Nate will play him heavily into the fourth quarter.
And then other games, he just sucks and either helps give up the lead that the starters made, or lets the other team extend its lead. That's when Nate has had enough of him.

And his jumpshot is still broke, and seems like he's going back to the old Sergio. It's unfortunate because his shot looked so promising in the preseason, and it's gotten progressively worse.

I want him to succeed since he brings us a different dimension than the grind-it-out offense led by Blake, but he just hasn't earned the PT lately.

 

[Nikolokolus]

thanks for rehasing the same opinion for the 1,000th time.

My pleasure.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Sergio plays no DEFENSE and letting Bayless sit when we need someone who will body up good PG's gives me a headache! Bayless, Oden, Roy and LA is to much for any one team to contend with if they are on. Throw in Outlaw coming off the bench and Portland is a nightmare to prep for. Bayless need minutes, it's that simple. He could be our Rondo. Blake will be a good teacher for the next two years but that should be our PG rotation hence forth.

 

[hasoos]

Ok I'll get right on that trading him thing. First of all, KP is going to have to quit and the Blazers will need to hire me as GM though.

 

[Natebishop3]

What has really perplexed me is that I haven't seen the same chemistry between Sergio and Rudy for the last ten or so games.

 

[Ed O]

thanks for rehasing the same opinion for the 1,000th time.

Um... you started this thread and you're making that criticism?

Ed O.

 

[craigehlo]

He might be the best passer on the team, but if he can't knock down a mid-range jumper consistently, how can you have him in the game? Teams are going to sag off him, and then what?

I don't even think he's the best passer on the team anymore. That honor goes to Rudy before him IMHO. He reminds me of Jason Williams after he got traded from Sactown and had to play for a stricter coach. Take the fancy passing out of his game and you have a below average PG.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't even think he's the best passer on the team anymore. That honor goes to Rudy before him IMHO. He reminds me of Jason Williams after he got traded from Sactown and had to play for a stricter coach. Take the fancy passing out of his game and you have a below average PG.

Have you noticed the fancy passing has disappeared from Rudy's game too? I think MB mentioned that Nate was on his ass about the pass to Outlaw as well. Nate drives me nuts sometimes. Let a guy be comfortable. Let him be himself. I felt that Nate caused Telfair to take a step back too.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

I really see Webster, Raef, Sergio, Ike, Frye and Shavlick on their way out with some sort of package. Non of these guys will be around next year. Webster will be here long enough to get trade value but he's not panned out, and Batum, Rudy and Roy should have his minutes.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

I think Nate knows he wont be the coach of this team when the championships come around. He lacks vision and we can all see that!

 

[craigehlo]

Have you noticed the fancy passing has disappeared from Rudy's game too? I think MB mentioned that Nate was on his ass about the pass to Outlaw as well. Nate drives me nuts sometimes. Let a guy be comfortable. Let him be himself. I felt that Nate caused Telfair to take a step back too.

I'm kinda thinking Rudy is also hitting the rookie/American game wall a bit. But there's no question that a couple bad turnovers will get you the quick hook to the bench from Nate. With Rudy, he can still knock down shots and run the break if he isn't passing. When Sergio isn't passing well he's as big a liability as Frye for this team.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Have you noticed the fancy passing has disappeared from Rudy's game too? I think MB mentioned that Nate was on his ass about the pass to Outlaw as well. Nate drives me nuts sometimes. Let a guy be comfortable. Let him be himself. I felt that Nate caused Telfair to take a step back too.

To Nate's credit, Turiaf almost caught up to Travis and could have easily disrupted the play. That's not saying a guy can't be "himself" that's called holding guys accountable.

 

[Natebishop3]

To Nate's credit, Turiaf almost caught up to Travis and could have easily disrupted the play. That's not saying a guy can't be "himself" that's called holding guys accountable.

I know, but it's just a public example of Nate getting on Rudy about passing. I'm just wondering if he has curtailed Rudy's creative passing a bit. I haven't seen as many of the through-the-leg passes.

 

[Pontius]

I really see Webster, Raef, Sergio, Ike, Frye and Shavlick on their way out with some sort of package. Non of these guys will be around next year. Webster will be here long enough to get trade value but he's not panned out, and Batum, Rudy and Roy should have his minutes.

With regard to your Webster comment, I am slapping my forehead in disgust. He turned 22 on Dec 4th, 2008. You are in for a rude awakening.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I know, but it's just a public example of Nate getting on Rudy about passing. I'm just wondering if he has curtailed Rudy's creative passing a bit. I haven't seen as many of the through-the-leg passes.

Nate curtailing creativity???? How dare you.

 

[mook]

I know, but it's just a public example of Nate getting on Rudy about passing. I'm just wondering if he has curtailed Rudy's creative passing a bit. I haven't seen as many of the through-the-leg passes.

There's no doubt in my mind that he has. But is it really such a bad thing? I mean, I love watching some of the sick things Fernandez pulls off too, but is it really appropriate on a team that's trying to play sound, fundamental basketball?

When Fernandez pulls off one of those crazy passes, does it inspire guys like Bayless or Aldridge or Batum to also play a little undisciplined?

The Spurs play an extremely boring, yet effective, offense. Watching Oden dismantle the Bulls the other night, you could almost swear he was Tim Duncan, Blake was Tony Parker and Roy/Rudy/Batum were the three point specialists the Spurs have in surplus just destroying them from the corners.

Particularly with Roy and Oden, we really have some great pieces for a methodical, boring, effective half court offense. If it means sacrificing some of Rudy's creativity, well, I think we have to live with it.

 

[BengalDuck]

Sergio is terrible.

Not terrible like Outlaw where he's just maddeningly inconsistent and should be a much much better player.

Terrible as in, why he is on an NBA team?

He can't defend. He can't shoot. And while it's not really expected, he's not a good rebounder like a Jason Kidd is or anything.

His only solid attribute is passing. Yet he's a ball-dominating guard who 3-4 times a game dribbles and dribbles and dribbles until there's less than 7 seconds left before passing it off for a rushed shot.

Bayless is, as a rookie with only about 20 games played, already a better player for us.

 

[craigehlo]

With regard to your Webster comment, I am slapping my forehead in disgust. He turned 22 on Dec 4th, 2008. You are in for a rude awakening.

Because a chronic foot injury is really going to help Webster's explosiveness? He was already a one-dimensional player before he suffered a fracture. I'm not getting my hopes up for him suddenly learning to slash at this point in his career.

 

[Natebishop3]

There's no doubt in my mind that he has. But is it really such a bad thing? I mean, I love watching some of the sick things Fernandez pulls off too, but is it really appropriate on a team that's trying to play sound, fundamental basketball?

When Fernandez pulls off one of those crazy passes, does it inspire guys like Bayless or Aldridge or Batum to also play a little undisciplined?

The Spurs play an extremely boring, yet effective, offense. Watching Oden dismantle the Bulls the other night, you could almost swear he was Tim Duncan, Blake was Tony Parker and Roy/Rudy/Batum were the three point specialists the Spurs have in surplus just destroying them from the corners.

Particularly with Roy and Oden, we really have some great pieces for a methodical, boring, effective half court offense. If it means sacrificing some of Rudy's creativity, well, I think we have to live with it.

Yeah, but the problem is that I think it's part of Rudy's game. Part of what makes him Rudy. If you start instilling doubt in a players mind, they might not react naturally and therefor lose some of their instincts. I'm not saying get crazy or anything, but I love watching Rudy when he's having fun.

 

[BengalDuck]

Because a chronic foot injury is really going to help Webster's explosiveness? He was already a one-dimensional player before he suffered a fracture. I'm not getting my hopes up for him suddenly learning to slash at this point in his career.

Since when is Webster's injury a chronic problem? He has a stress fracture or it broke or something... and then had a setback when he tried to return.

Does Tom Brady have a chronic knee problem because his rehab has been hit by setbacks?

 

[Natebishop3]

Since when is Webster's injury a chronic problem? He has a stress fracture or it broke or something... and then had a setback when he tried to return.

Does Tom Brady have a chronic knee problem because his rehab has been hit by setbacks?

Didn't he break something else in his foot? Not the same bone?

 

[Pontius]

Because a chronic foot injury is really going to help Webster's explosiveness? He was already a one-dimensional player before he suffered a fracture. I'm not getting my hopes up for him suddenly learning to slash at this point in his career.

So now his foot injury has become chronic? I also have never shared your opinion that Webster is a one-dimensional player, so I guess that's where we must forever disagree.

 

[MrJayremmie]

Unnecessary hate on Sergio, imo. He is doing fine for a backup PG that gets 10mpg. He has earned his time through the years... we should give him at the least through the all-star break and after that see who gives us the best chance to win and go with them.

 

[RayDavies]

It's hard for me to hate Sergio, as he is pretty much warming the bench at this point. That said, Bayless should be ready to take his minutes SOON. That will make us a better team, as the second unit lacks defense (outside of whoever is playing center). Bayless has been a very solid defender of opposing 1s. Sergio is likely our worst defender, as he plays the 'euro' guard version of defense- gambling to get steals too much of the time. Any time there is a switch, SR seems to get lost.

I have been encouraged that Sergio has begun to drive the ball much more in the last few games, but he won't be an effective player until he can shoot ~42% from 2. If he magically became an effective defender, that might change. I know Bayless is shooting terribly, but it is a tiny sample size; we have had some time to look at Sergio. He is shooting below his already-weak career avg of 38% this year.

If Bayless has Sergio's stats on offense in a year or two, I will be disappointed, but he will still be a better player than Rodriguez due to his D.

Besides, throwing dicey/flashy passes is cute and all, but winning and playing fundamental BBall is far more important to me.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

In years to come, it will seem silly that Sergio ever played in front of Bayless. He is retarding Bayless's growth.

 

[PapaG]

I want him traded but not because of the reasons the OP cites, I want him traded because he's just not that good.

I really do think that Sergio was a better player his rookie year than he is now, and even the stats seem to prove it.

Why?

Because teams have now figured out Sergio isn't a real threat from outside (unlike Blake), meaning defenders can sag off of him and narrow his passing lanes and driving opportunities.

A 35% FG shooter and <30% from 3 pt range is lucky to still get any minutes at all, let alone averaging over 14/game.

A veteran back-up PG should be at or near the top of KP's deadline wish list.