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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 21 2006, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When I put God(or Allah) I didnt mean to say thet "god" was better than Allah, if you would f*cking read my posts, you would see that in my point of view, God is Allah and Allah is God, and f*cking believe it or not, muslim say "Allah" in english most of the time. It is the name of their god, I have met very few muslims who refer to Allah by saying "God" unless they are talking to all monotheistic believers.</div><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">So, once again, because they refer to God as Allah, all of a sudden, God/Allah are different Lords? Hmm... Your knowledge is questionable.</span>
 
Please tell me when I said that, seriously, dont you understand what I believe that they are the same being?
 
It doesn't bother me. I respect and love the country I live in (USA). Is it that hard to stand up and show that you appreciate what these men and women who have went to war, and died for you do? I don't think it's that hard to do, so I stand during the pledge of allegiance to actually show some decency, and try to show appreciation.
 
The clear difference between Allah and God is that God supports Bush and Allah does not.
 
If you cant take 30 seconds out of your day to stand up for the Pledge of Allegiance than I dont know what to say.30 damn seconds...
 
Wow you guys keep saying 30 seconds, but thats not even the fu*kin point. I don't care how long it takes...go read some of the sh*t I wrote...because the 30 seconds thing is totally not the point.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Oct 22 2006, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow you guys keep saying 30 seconds, but thats not even the fu*kin point. I don't care how long it takes...go read some of the sh*t I wrote...because the 30 seconds thing is totally not the point.</div> Exactly. If you don't want to do it why do they then want you to just go along with it when your not being geniune anyway. God forbid some people are different and have their own opinions.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Oct 22 2006, 01:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The clear difference between Allah and God is that God supports Bush and Allah does not.</div>Dude, just shut up....
 
I didn't say people should or shouldn't, but I think the argument is pretty weak. And I don't think posting on the internet about it is significant at all. That's what your livejournal is for, crying about things. I don't mind you sitting down, but if someone older gets upset at you, don't come crying to me. It's pathetic.
 
nobody was crying to you...you didnt even have to get involved in the thread..that was your choicebut the point wasnt to "cry about it"it was to create a debate..I thought that's what this section was for..not for people to come in and defend there argument as "don't come crying to me. it's pathetic."
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Oct 22 2006, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>nobody was crying to you...you didnt even have to get involved in the thread..that was your choicebut the point wasnt to "cry about it"it was to create a debate..I thought that's what this section was for..not for people to come in and defend there argument as "don't come crying to me. it's pathetic."</div>In that case, what exactly are we debating? You made the topic, but didn't pose anything to really debate about (I don't consider "what are your thoughts?" something to debate about).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Oct 20 2006, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to The Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. What's your thoughts on it?I dont like it at all...whats the point of it?its such a waste of time..why should I pledge to anything?whenever they do it in school I stay in my seat while everyone else stands and says itmy teacher gets mad at me and im like :dunno: :no3: people take it way too seriously and it's the biggest waste of time..every single day....words cant even express how much I hate itand to add to that it says "one nation under God" which I can't even begin to explainwhat if people don't want to be under God? are they not patriotic?gay</div>wow, you have some serious issues with respect. if you can't even say the pledge of allegiance, you don't deserve to live in this country. what a disgrace.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Oct 22 2006, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if you can't even say the pledge of allegiance, you don't deserve to live in this country. what a disgrace.
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</div><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">Then all the Mexicans should be deported back to Mexico, huh?</span>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Oct 22 2006, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">Then all the Mexicans should be deported back to Mexico, huh?</span></div>All the illegal ones, yes. And the legal ones are now part of our country and should show respect and all that Ive seen have.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Oct 22 2006, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>All the illegal ones, yes. And the legal ones are now part of our country and should show respect and all that Ive seen have.</div><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">I was being sarcastic, though...</span>
 
<span style="color:#000000"><span style="font-size:24pt;line-height:100%">THIS IS DEBATE...NO SARCASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span></span>lol,j/k
 
I don't pledge to a country with a moron running it by vote of the idiotic public that votes randomly and doesn't look into it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Oct 22 2006, 11:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't pledge to a country with a moron running it by vote of the idiotic public that votes randomly and doesn't look into it.</div> Can't you look past some of the more recent political pitfalls (pitfalls being Bush).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Oct 23 2006, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't pledge to a country with a moron running it by vote of the idiotic public that votes randomly and doesn't look into it.</div>There are no if, an's, or but's..You stand up, and show reverence to your country.If you don't respect the country, then you can sit down."But I hate bush"..WHO CARES! It's a tradition that has always been done, that shows pride, and reverence to the US..
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I pledge allegiance to the underworldOne nation under dogThere of which I stand aloneA face in the crowdUnsung, against the mold</div>that's more like it don't you think :dunno:
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mikster100 @ Oct 23 2006, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that's more like it don't you think :dunno:</div>Somehow I guessed correctly that it was a dumb Green Day song, to my own chagrin.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Oct 23 2006, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Can't you look past some of the more recent political pitfalls (pitfalls being Bush).</div>No, because those are what is affecting me now. You can't look past a brickwall. I'm not going to pledge to a country that can't get it's act together. I say we get BBW in congress! w00t w00t (except cb4 and wolverine30)
 
Something no one has ever mentioned: Ok, so we don't do the pledge in schools, because it has God in it, and not everyone is a Christian. OK, suppose I accept that. If so, then I have the right to challenge teaching evolution in public schools. After all, a lot of people believe in creation, is that not correct? And they don't even let you present creation as an alternative. You absolutely cannot mention it at all. It's hypocritical.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hang Eleven @ Oct 23 2006, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Something no one has ever mentioned: Ok, so we don't do the pledge in schools, because it has God in it, and not everyone is a Christian. OK, suppose I accept that. If so, then I have the right to challenge teaching evolution in public schools. After all, a lot of people believe in creation, is that not correct? And they don't even let you present creation as an alternative. You absolutely cannot mention it at all. It's hypocritical.</div>We do the pledge in Texas (and the pledge to the Texas flag, for what reason I have no idea). I think it is implemented by state. But I do agree that it should be an even playing field.
 
We do the pledge in school here too. What wackjob state do you live in? Everyone does the Pledge.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>We do the pledge in school here too. What wackjob state do you live in? Everyone does the Pledge.</div>I'm talking to those here on the forum who say the pledge should be abolished. And to those in the government who abolished prayer, and to those who took down the Ten Commandments, and to those who overturned a case because a juror mentioned a Bible verse.
 

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