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...Wow, you're the one who brought it up...and sorry but you generally do act like a child...you make statements and when confronted, you cry foul or that you "really don't care" or "could care less" or some other chickenshit veiled defense.

...you made a false statement against me...now either back it up with proof or apologize and admit you were wrong or stfu.
It’s not that big of a deal and I honestly have no clue why you’re getting so offended.
 
...pretty much what I thought, ...now you claim it's "not that big of a deal"...how typical.

...are you denying you made a false statement concerning me?...all I asked for is for you is to apologize and to admit you were wrong.
 
...pretty much what I thought, ...now you claim it's "not that big of a deal"...how typical.

...are you denying you made a false statement concerning me?...all I asked for is for you is to apologize and to admit you were wrong.
I’m not gonna apologize for something so ridiculous. I reccomend you not demand apologies over the smallest of things for it is not offensive and really just a waste of time.
 
I’m not gonna apologize for something so ridiculous. I reccomend you not demand apologies over the smallest of things for it is not offensive and really just a waste of time.
If its ridiculous and the smallest of things, why even respond to his "here we go :popcorn emoji:"?
 
If its ridiculous and the smallest of things, why even respond to his "here we go :popcorn emoji:"?
I didn’t demand of an apology all while saying stfu and whatever else. I just notice when people on this forum don’t have much to say except try and escalate things on purpose. That’s all.
 
I didn’t demand of an apology all while saying stfu and whatever else. I just notice when people on this forum don’t have much to say except try and escalate things on purpose. That’s all.
But you escalate by responding?
 
For those that still want to boycott the NFL for allowing grown men to kneel during the national anthem, to protest the treatment of black individuals by the law enforcement in this country, need to take a knee here and give up possession of the ball.
 
I’m not gonna apologize for something so ridiculous. I reccomend you not demand apologies over the smallest of things for it is not offensive and really just a waste of time.

...you fucked up, period...and you know it. Geeez, just admit it.

...You flat out accused me of something that I did not do, and when I called you on it and even provided proof of your fuck up, instead of owning up to it, you immediately went into damage control as you're prone to do. I simply asked for you to admit your error and apologize...but according to you, my request was "ridiculous".

... and now you're trying to turn things around and act like I'm the one with the problem?...and only because you have arbitrarily decided that your fuck up wasn't big enough for you to admit you were wrong......this is one of the most pathetically funny things I've ever witnessed on a message board.
 
This. If you notice, they just put up one hand. If you put up two over your eyes you'd be using proper context. I'll say this though, every time I mark a 3 pointer to show I know a guy is behind the line, I throw the white power sign up proudly! LAWL!!

Context is a MF! :lol:

Did they change that? I thought it was just a hand straight up, fingers pointing? At least, thats how I did it when I officiated for a couple years (and was trained as such)
 
...you fucked up, period...and you know it. Geeez, just admit it.

...You flat out accused me of something that I did not do, and when I called you on it and even provided proof of your fuck up, instead of owning up to it, you immediately went into damage control as you're prone to do. I simply asked for you to admit your error and apologize...but according to you, my request was "ridiculous".

... and now you're trying to turn things around and act like I'm the one with the problem?...and only because you have arbitrarily decided that your fuck up wasn't big enough for you to admit you were wrong......this is one of the most pathetically funny things I've ever witnessed on a message board.
Lol
 
Did they change that? I thought it was just a hand straight up, fingers pointing? At least, thats how I did it when I officiated for a couple years (and was trained as such)
It’s the okay sign. Not white power. This literally started under a year ago when 4chan trolls came up with this in an attempt to make the media and others believe it. One outlet ran with it and ever since then it seems other people have now decided that’s the sign as well because of the trolling of 4chan. It’s completely made up. It’s the okay sign. Anybody who tries to go along with the other narrative lives in silly fairy tale land. This is why I fight a lot of political correctness. It gets overly insane and ridiculous
 
How did I escalate it? Bones I recall somebody else telling me I need to apologize and to stfu. So really? Who escalated it? I’m chilling


...yeah, right. You have a very imaginative contextual view of who said what and when they said it...terrible, simply terrible.
 
...yeah, right. You have a very imaginative contextual view of who said what and when they said it...terrible, simply terrible.
I know exactly what I said. I said you have said that before with the emoji or whatever. Even if you didn’t say the exact same thing, you have done something similar. That’s all I said. You follow with blah blah blah you must apologize and stfu blah blah. I don’t know what you’re going on about or what the big deal is.
 
I didn’t demand of an apology all while saying stfu and whatever else. I just notice when people on this forum don’t have much to say except try and escalate things on purpose. That’s all.

Do you have something to say about the fucking OP???

If not take your I support and defend the racists clownshow elsewhere.
 
I know exactly what I said. I said you have said that before with the emoji or whatever. Even if you didn’t say the exact same thing, you have done something similar. That’s all I said. You follow with blah blah blah you must apologize and stfu blah blah. I don’t know what you’re going on about or what the big deal is.

How about the OP? Got something?
 
It’s the okay sign. Not white power. This literally started under a year ago when 4chan trolls came up with this in an attempt to make the media and others believe it. One outlet ran with it and ever since then it seems other people have now decided that’s the sign as well because of the trolling of 4chan. It’s completely made up. It’s the okay sign. Anybody who tries to go along with the other narrative lives in silly fairy tale land. This is why I fight a lot of political correctness. It gets overly insane and ridiculous
You are 100% correct about the origins. And it was an A+ troll job. The problem now though, is that symbolism evolves and changes. It isn't static. People who are actual white supremacists can now do that troll OK gesture and have plausible deniability afterwards. The troll job was so effective because of that. First, they can make fun of anyone who takes it seriously, and afterwards, they can call anyone who doesn't buy their excuse unhinged. And even if the dumb made up gesture gets co-opted by actual racists jack offs, anyone using it has plausible deniability forever basically .

To me, regardless of how it originated, if someone uses symbolism like that now, after it's all out in the open, they are a racist dick. The meaning and symbolism has changed since the creation. Context is a bitch.
 
You are 100% correct about the origins. And it was an A+ troll job. The problem now though, is that symbolism evolves and changes. It isn't static. People who are actual white supremacists can now do that troll OK gesture and have plausible deniability afterwards. The troll job was so effective because of that. First, they can make fun of anyone who takes it seriously, and afterwards, they can call anyone who doesn't buy their excuse unhinged. And even if the dumb made up gesture gets co-opted by actual racists jack offs, anyone using it has plausible deniability forever basically .

To me, regardless of how it originated, if someone uses symbolism like that now, after it's all out in the open, they are a racist dick. The meaning and symbolism has changed since the creation. Context is a bitch.
I disagree. This literally has meant okay for the last how many years?! And now under a year of media reporting it’s not that sign anymore just means it’s some white supremacist sign? that’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. With that logic if the media tells you for a year something, anything, you should believe it and that’s what it means now. Take any word or symbol, it can just be changed in a few months. Come on now. Let’s not go too off the deep end is all I’m saying.
 
Did they change that? I thought it was just a hand straight up, fingers pointing? At least, thats how I did it when I officiated for a couple years (and was trained as such)

The proper sign is actually just an open hand but I think that looks stupid.
 
I disagree. This literally has meant okay for the last how many years?! And now under a year of media reporting it’s not that sign anymore just means it’s some white supremacist sign? that’s the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. With that logic if the media tells you for a year something, anything, you should believe it and that’s what it means now. Take any word or symbol, it can just be changed in a few months. Come on now. Let’s not go too off the deep end is all I’m saying.
I get what you are saying, but you are using extremes here.

Think of it like slang vocabulary. If you make up a new shitty definition to some benign word it might just end up being an inside joke to you and your friends. But, if you do it on a site with millions of viewers, like 4chan or reddit, it might just catch on. The concept of any term or symbol can easily take on new meanings. In this case, is it there yet? Probably not. But, the connotations are beginning to change.

Please don't make me bring up specific historical examples of words and/or symbolism changing rather quickly. I'm sure you can think of some on your own. You are a smart guy.
 
How did I escalate it? Bones I recall somebody else telling me I need to apologize and to stfu. So really? Who escalated it? I’m chilling
I'm just saying, if you can recognize the bait (and people do bait you) why take it? Not necessarily referencing that specific comment.
 
I get what you are saying, but you are using extremes here.

Think of it like slang vocabulary. If you make up a new shitty definition to some benign word it might just end up being an inside joke to you and your friends. But, if you do it on a site with millions of viewers, like 4chan or reddit, it might just catch on. The concept of any term or symbol can easily take on new meanings. In this case, is it there yet? Probably not. But, the connotations are beginning to change.

Please don't make me bring up specific historical examples of words and/or symbolism changing rather quickly. I'm sure you can think of some on your own. You are a smart guy.
It’s not that simple though. Okay so let’s just say now according to some people it is some white supremacist symbol. There are still millions out there who use it to this day and think it means okay because for years and years that’s what it has been. So for the people still using it, are they white supremacists?
 
I'm just saying, if you can recognize the bait (and people do bait you) why take it? Not necessarily referencing that specific comment.
I don’t feel like I was baited, I kinda just actually wondered why he got so upset by it. That’s it.
 
It’s the okay sign. Not white power. This literally started under a year ago when 4chan trolls came up with this in an attempt to make the media and others believe it. One outlet ran with it and ever since then it seems other people have now decided that’s the sign as well because of the trolling of 4chan. It’s completely made up. It’s the okay sign. Anybody who tries to go along with the other narrative lives in silly fairy tale land. This is why I fight a lot of political correctness. It gets overly insane and ridiculous

I never questioned any of that, I just asked a referee a referee question.
 
"I didn't mean to upset or insult anyone but I apologize if I have inadvertently done that."
 

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