Trade Idea Poll: Giannis yes/no? (2 Viewers)

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Would you trade for Giannis?

  • Hell yes! Whatever it takes to get the former MVP

    Votes: 5 6.9%

  • I wouldn't give up x, y, or z but I'd certainly give up most if not all of the Bucks' picks

    Votes: 22 30.6%

  • Only for a very specific package (specify)

    Votes: 9 12.5%

  • No thank you

    Votes: 29 40.3%

  • Fuck no!

    Votes: 7 9.7%
  • Total voters
    72
wizenheimer said:
I wonder what the odds of Giannis actually being traded this week are....?

does 35-40% chance seem to high? too low?
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I thought the betting odds were close to 50/50, not sure. Not that betting odds are perfect, but their usually the most accurate indicator I've seen. If we see the odds move greatly can also be an indicator that a large number of "insiders" are starting to get the news of an imminent deal/no deal.
 
Crazy the Bulls are so high. I believe there was news that Giannis or his investment group bought a Chicago property but I think that was just a coincidence.

I do like our odds at 30-1. I find it unlikely we get him but I'd probably estimate its closer to 15-1. Thats 6-7% so certainly plausible but yeah way over 90% we don't get him.

Warriors and Hawks should be high. 6ers are another team I might think is underrated. If they think Embiid is healthy enough an Edgecomb deal would legit make sense for both sides.

Kind of nuts how much front office employees or even ESPN/Shams/etc would be able to profit off information.
 
Looks like most rumors I have seen point to a Jrue and picks for Bridges trade.
 
Chris Craig said:
Looks like most rumors I have seen point to a Jrue and picks for Bridges trade.
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Bridges ain't worth Jrue and all 3 of those picks, but if we can keep one or two and get younger and more versatile -- especially with our glut of PGs all of a sudden, I'm okay with that deal...
 
Chris Craig said:
Looks like most rumors I have seen point to a Jrue and picks for Bridges trade.
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really difficult needle to thread

Knicks are only 148K below the 2nd apron so they have to send out more salary than they take back

Jrue 32.4M
Bridges 24.9M

a 7.5M difference. Knicks don't really have a single salary that would make up the difference unless it was Mitchell Robinson. And that would crash Portland over the tax line....after they had to waive somebody to make a legal trade. And that would make giving Love a standard contract even more difficult
 
Chris Craig said:
Does

Butler
Podziemski
Kuminga
5 picks

Beat it? That's the Warriors offer apparently
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The players don't. Podz and Kuminga are mediocre at best. Hardly blue chip. Their ceilings are maybe starter, maybe bench player? If we were willing to include Scoot/Shae we blow that deal out of the water and it's not even close.
 
wizenheimer said:
I wonder what the odds of Giannis actually being traded this week are....?

does 35-40% chance seem to high? too low?
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Teams probably have the same concerns raised here about what it would cost them for the potential of a one year rental. More likely it happens this off season.
 
PDXFonz said:
Teams probably have the same concerns raised here about what it would cost them for the potential of a one year rental. More likely it happens this off season.
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Then it will be teams trading away assets for less than a year of Giannis. Also a third of the league will be untradable then as free agents so a deal is actually much easier to construct now. At the draft some teams will want to see what happens in free agency. At free agency teams won't want to give up their drafted players.

There is always an excuse to wait but unless the Bucks can't get anywhere close to fair value I'd think they should get what they can now. Many teams would want to have Giannis for this year's playoffs and in the summer that value is gone.

With Giannis on an expiring I'm not sure teams will be much turned off by the prospect of Giannis leaving (nobody leaves in free agency any more) but the thought of having to pay him a massive new 5 year 300+ million contract might further give teams hesitation to fork over value.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Then it will be teams trading away assets for less than a year of Giannis. Also a third of the league will be untradable then as free agents so a deal is actually much easier to construct now. At the draft some teams will want to see what happens in free agency. At free agency teams won't want to give up their drafted players.

There is always an excuse to wait but unless the Bucks can't get anywhere close to fair value I'd think they should get what they can now. Many teams would want to have Giannis for this year's playoffs and in the summer that value is gone.

With Giannis on an expiring I'm not sure teams will be much turned off by the prospect of Giannis leaving (nobody leaves in free agency any more) but the thought of having to pay him a massive new 5 year 300+ million contract might further give teams hesitation to fork over value.
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Starting at age 33. I am guessing he would be worth that for 2 of those 5 years.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Starting at age 33. I am guessing he would be worth that for 2 of those 5 years.
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I think its primarily been the injury factor. He has played 70 games once in the last 7 seasons. He was injured both playoffs with Dame and years in the playoffs prior to that.

If healthy he's been very good when playing in recent seasons. Thats probably underselling it - he's been a good allstar and possible MVP. But guys don't typically become more healthy in their mid 30s.

But to your point those last 3 seasons until 2032 even if he were healthy he's obviously going to decline - so while he might not be a horrible contract it might not be a deal that helps a team contend. Look at LBJ the last few seasons - he's still a top player offensively but the Lakers have no salary space to fill out that roster and haven't been contenders since the bubble in 2020. No teams wants to give up assets to acquire LeBron in a trade either.
 
Minnesota I don't get being on that list - they don't have the assets. Unless we have a desire to get Randle and McDaniels or something so Bucks can get their picks. But then what the hell players do the Bucks get?

Doesn't make sense.

At least the Knicks we can get 3 unprotected swaps - also with their aging core that seems like a better asset than swaps for Anythony Edwards team. Crazy he's in his 6th season but still only 24.
 
Golden State for sure has the ammo to a do a deal. Obviously we do. Miami I can squint and get there. NY its pretty unlikely. Wolves no chance.

Hawks are the other team nobody is talking about but I can see it. They have picks including Bucks super pick this season and Bucks pick next year, other picks, a number of good young players. They're probably the one team with more urgency for the Bucks to pull a trigger now and get that pick. If that pick jumps to the top of the lottery it might be worth more than Giannis on its own.

Insane how stupid Dumars was to do that Derrick Queen trade at the draft. All the reporting makes it sound like it wasn't clear we could get that deal, but if it was available and we just passed on it for Yang I'd be super upset with Cronin. Not sure how into these details Dundon review of Blazers management is going to be.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Makes the 30-1 bet available that I noted above look pretty enticing!

SharpesTriumph

Trade Idea Post in thread 'Poll: Giannis yes/no?'

Here's the betting odds - so yeah pretty close to 50/50 he gets dealt


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Worth a tenner for fun, probably a donation. I’d probably wake up and feel like I was dreaming if I found out Giannis was a Blazer. What a crazy storyline. We have Dame and Giannis and just the shuffling of everything involved in those trades.

I voted yes by the way, I’m all for it. I’m also putting money on Dame always being lights out from 3. He’s had to spend a lot of time working on creating his 3, so catch and shoot wasn’t always as natural for him. But if he was a catch and shoot 3 point player I think he would excel at it.

So much of trading for Giannis depends on Dame coming back which is why maybe it doesn’t make that much sense. How much say does Dame have with the FO? Dame wanted Trent Jr in MIL and it did not work out at all. Who knows how Giannis feels about teaming up with Dame again. Whether they feel like they could have done more and want to give it a go with a coach like Popovic raised Splitter which blows bummy ass Doc Rivers out of the water 10 times out of 10. Or whether Giannis is not even about it.

Giannis could go anywhere and then pick a team in FA. It would be dumb for a team to make a move for him if they couldn’t keep him long term.

Could be an actual disaster to give up a lot of future picks and young talent for him only to have it not work out. Super high risk trade despite the fact he might be the best player in the NBA today.
 
To be honest this is a win win.

If we trade for him, those picks go back to MIL.

If we don’t, we keep those picks and MIL is likely to be in the lottery for a while until they rebuild. We are really coming out big time winners in that Dame trade regardless.
 
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