Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim card

[Idog1976]

Man, if there is one thing this board has done, it's make me like the Democrats more. I hate partisanship and I can't stand either major party. After reading this board for a few weeks I feel like donating everything I own to the Democrats and voting Democrat straight down the line. The lies, talking points, total rejection of reality, smugness, victim roleplaying, absolutely stunning hypocrisy, manufactured revisionist history (Nazi's are lefties LMFAO!!!) and other assorted dirty tricks have made me consider registering as a Democrat even though I loathe them.

So right wingers if your point was to alienate people on the fence and drive them in droves towards the Democratic party then let me just say "Mission Accomplished".

So to all the non-republicans are the Republicans more annoying when in power (8 years of Bush) or when they get to play their oh poor us victim card (past 8 months).

I'm going with the later.

 

[BTOWN_HUSTLA]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

BOOOOOOOOOSHHHHHH!!!!!

 

[Idog1976]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

BOOOOOOOOOSHHHHHH!!!!!

Now that Sinobas is gone it's safe to say you have the ugliest Avatar on the board. Oh and the best additions to threads in regards to content. [/S]

 

[BTOWN_HUSTLA]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

I don't know who Sinobas is.

anyway, Dems were way more annoying. always have been.

 

[SodaPopinski]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

Worst commercial ever proves Republicans WAY more annoying:

[video=vimeo;5632598]

What a load of self-congratulatory, masturbatory garbage in an age where they are the do-nothing party.

 

[DaRizzle]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

Worst commercial ever proves Republicans WAY more annoying:



What a load of self-congratulatory, masturbatory garbage in an age where they are the do-nothing party.

lol....wow

"Hey! We kick ass! Look at me! Look at me!"

 

[ODENISGOD]

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expect a visit from shooter lol

 

[maxiep]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

When a situation exists where one party has complete power--majorities in both houses of Congress and the Presidency--both become unbearable. The party in power becomes arrogant and overreaches and the minority party opposes everything hoping to find traction on any issue.

 

[RR7]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

When a situation exists where one party has complete power--majorities in both houses of Congress and the Presidency--both become unbearable. The party in power becomes arrogant and overreaches and the minority party opposes everything hoping to find traction on any issue.

+10

 

[Idog1976]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

When a situation exists where one party has complete power--majorities in both houses of Congress and the Presidency--both become unbearable. The party in power becomes arrogant and overreaches and the minority party opposes everything hoping to find traction on any issue.

Are you talking about Bush from 2002 to 2006 or Obama now? Seems both are applicable. Bush of course had a Supreme Court edge as well.

For the record honest Republicans are wonderful to find. There are just exceedingly rare. I don't like the Dems pretty much at all, but the Republicans as a whole have become abhorrent to me. When I hear people say Hitler was a lefty it's hard for me to take anything they say seriously. That's as ludicrous as someone saying Stalin was a free market guru. Both the far right (Hitler, Mussolini, Franco) and the far left (Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot) are Totalitarian when they seize power. In fact I don't care what affiliation someone has once they become Totalitarian they have gone beyond the pale. The recent attempt by the right wing in this country to categorize Hitler as a Socialist and left leaning is enraging to me. Some of my wife's family were killed in the Holocaust and it insults their memory to deny the history that led to that event. Likewise if I heard a lefty claiming that somehow Stalin wasn't really left of Center I would be equally outraged.

FWIW I am extremely suspicious of the Obama administration and alarmed at their spending spree. Truth be told I feel both of our parties are hijacked by a fairly small clique or perhaps two cliques with a fair degree of agreement about somethings and some minor disagreements on small issues.

If the Republicans continue in their intellectually and morally dishonest campaign I will have a hard time voting for one ever again. I voted for both Democrats and Republicans in the last election along with a fair amount of Independants, Green Party and Libertarians. I'm not sure I can vote for a party that claims Hitler is a leftist. That kind of lie is simply too much to bear.

 

[maxiep]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

Are you talking about Bush from 2002 to 2006 or Obama now? Seems both are applicable. Bush of course had a Supreme Court edge as well.

Hell yes.

 

[Idog1976]

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Hell yes.

That's good to hear. I like you better all the time Maxiep. Funny how that works. I couldn't stand my best friend until I got to know him. His initial bearing probably reminded me too much of me. Please don't take that as an insult I am going to post later a financial thing and get your read on it. I prefer to talk about economics as opposed to politics anyways. Politics is just sickening to me now days. I don't vote for the lesser of two evils. I vote for the one that doesn't cause me to vomit all overmyself. I'm scared I won't be able to vote at all come 2010.

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

FWIW,

I think the democrats are incredibly whiny when republicans are in office. So much so that the constant negativity drove people to reelect Bush by a decent margin.

I'm actually glad democrats are in office, simply for the STFU factor. But I'd rather neither were in office, or certainly an utter gridlock so nothing could get done at all.

While the Democrats are in office, the republicans aren't actually whiny, but conniving. I see it as a big difference - they're quite strategic about finding issues they can push and hopefully win them elections. It doesn't help that the Democrats implode on their own without much help (remember those blue dog democrats opposing health care and other spending programs?)

 

[MARIS61]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

When in power, destroying people's lives, embarrassing our citizenship, and tearing our country down for their personal profit, it's more than annoying.

It's treason.



When out of power, whining and squiggling around in panic like the dim-witted leeches they are, it's mildly humorous.

 

[Idog1976]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

FWIW,

I think the democrats are incredibly whiny when republicans are in office. So much so that the constant negativity drove people to reelect Bush by a decent margin.

I'm actually glad democrats are in office, simply for the STFU factor. But I'd rather neither were in office, or certainly an utter gridlock so nothing could get done at all.

While the Democrats are in office, the republicans aren't actually whiny, but conniving. I see it as a big difference - they're quite strategic about finding issues they can push and hopefully win them elections. It doesn't help that the Democrats implode on their own without much help (remember those blue dog democrats opposing health care and other spending programs?)

I actually don't agree. If the Republicans were to constantly go after Obama's spending especially in regards to the Bank bailouts and preach about the Socialism (Really more fascism then socialism as Government Sachs is basically the 4th branch of government) I might respect them more. I find that the Republicans have become disgraceful in their attempts to shape reality to fit their agenda.

I want to see the Republicans focus on what is now somewhere between 12 Trillion to 24 Trillion in various bailouts, FDIC rescues, Off balance sheet FED transactions and other chicanery involving the banks. If the Republicans hammered on this issue to 1/1000000th the degree they go after healthcare reform I would probably be considering registering as a Republican. But as the RNC and DNC are both utterly co-opted by the financial industry virtually no ruckus has been raised on this FAR more important issue. The way the Healthcare debate is being framed by the Republicans is beyond dishonest but has actually gone round the bend.

The Democrats weren't whiny that I saw when Bush was in power. I felt more like they were spineless, rudderless and useless. The Dem's base fough tooth and nail to try and protect our rights but much like the Republicans are with bank bailouts when push came to shove the DNC enslaved Democrats did a whole lot of nothing to stop Bush's anti-constitutional rampage. Likewise I see nothing done by the Republicans about the CRITICAL issue of the greatest robbery of all time which is occurring right now with these hand outs to the banks.

I was in agreement with the Republicans about GM takeover by the government, but this healthcare debate has become absolutely disgusting. The way the Republicans are framing things obscures the fact that it's a TERRIBLE program due to the fact that it isn't socialized medicine at all but just more private hunting grounds for Obama aligned big pharama and insurance interests. If the Republicans were going after those sweetheart deals as the heart of their argument I might listen. Predictably, the Republicans are apparently totally fine with sweetheart deals for corporations coming from the tax payer wallet. They just don't want there to be a whiff of healthcare for all or any attempt to cap the insane increases in health care costs. Saying stuff about Granny being killed, the supposed destruction of ALL free market health care (utter BS), and worst of all the claim that Hitler was a left wing socialist just makes me ill. I just wish people could actually discuss the issues instead of turning everything into a hatefest to obscure the ongoing theft of this country's treasure. Unfortunately, theft for the elite, by the elite, is apparently the central plank of BOTH parties.

 

[Minstrel]

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Unfortunately, theft for the elite, by the elite, is apparently the central plank of BOTH parties.

While I might not put it in such extreme terms, I largely agree with you on that. The sheer passion of partisan wrangling is mildly amusing to me, as I don't think this is a two-party system so much as a one-party system with two wings. We have a (traditionally) Christian Capitalist party, with wings called Democratic and Republican. There's no true libertarian party or socialist party. Obviously, Democrats and Republicans differ on various issues, but they're really differences on the margins that become, for lack of anything else, the object of intense and heated fighting.

That one party is slowly changing, evolving away from Christian social conservatism. The reason Republicans are being marginalized a bit right now is because they're trying to continue to differentiate themselves on social issues and that's a losing cause. They'll realize that, re-tool themselves around the recognition that tooth-and-nail opposition to gay marriage or abortion isn't helping them and the two "parties" will again be wrangling just as hard over pretty minor differences (to the country at large). But those minor differences will be marketed as massive philosophical divides.

 

[Rodolfo]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

FWIW,

I think the democrats are incredibly whiny when republicans are in office. So much so that the constant negativity drove people to reelect Bush by a decent margin.

I'm actually glad democrats are in office, simply for the STFU factor. But I'd rather neither were in office, or certainly an utter gridlock so nothing could get done at all.

While the Democrats are in office, the republicans aren't actually whiny, but conniving. I see it as a big difference - they're quite strategic about finding issues they can push and hopefully win them elections. It doesn't help that the Democrats implode on their own without much help (remember those blue dog democrats opposing health care and other spending programs?)

It didn't help that our last president was one of the worst in the history of the country.

 

[maxiep]

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It didn't help that our last president was one of the worst in the history of the country.

But sadly topped by our current one.

 

[Idog1976]

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But sadly topped by our current one.

That may be in 8 years. I think it's a tad early to say Obama is worse then Bush. You got worse spending and that's about it.

 

[santeesioux]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

I hate the extremes of both parties, why can't we get a middle of the road independent in office?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

I hate the extremes of both parties, why can't we get a middle of the road independent in office?

Agreed.

When I look at the lefties & righties just around here it becomes evident that one is badly needed.

 

[Denny Crane]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

I hate the extremes of both parties, why can't we get a middle of the road independent in office?

Interestingly, I think the last two presidents were middle of the road. Bush was a liberal republican and Clinton was a conservative democrat.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

Worst commercial ever proves Republicans WAY more annoying:



What a load of self-congratulatory, masturbatory garbage in an age where they are the do-nothing party.

That Asian chick was sexy!

 

[MrJayremmie]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

Too hard to call.

Its better for the country when they are out of power, but they are whiny bitches and extremely annoying and try to obstruct anything from getting done even though the democratic party foolishly tries to be bi-partisan. Like when an e-mail went to every GOP leader saying they must oppose healthcare because it will "break Obama"... pure politics, they don't give a shit about us. In power they are scary as hell... Dick Cheney and George Bush for example.

But sadly topped by our current one.

LOL! 9/11, 2 recessions, 2 wars (one unneccesary), losing all respect for our country worldwide, torture, lower approval ratings than satan (I can link you the video), largest government expansion in our history, taking a surplus to a record deficit. Of course all the lies he told to congress, how he fucked with the CIA reports to twist them to fit his agenda, and the corrupt shit he did from Dick Cheney to Karl Rove.

And he only had 8 years to get that shit done! To act like Obama has even come close to that in 7 months is silly.

 

[maxiep]

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LOL! 9/11, 2 recessions, 2 wars (one unneccesary), losing all respect for our country worldwide, torture, lower approval ratings than satan (I can link you the video), largest government expansion in our history, taking a surplus to a record deficit. Of course all the lies he told to congress, how he fucked with the CIA reports to twist them to fit his agenda, and the corrupt shit he did from Dick Cheney to Karl Rove.

And he only had 8 years to get that shit done! To act like Obama has even come close to that in 7 months is silly.

Thanks for demonstrating your ignorance. It's good to know that it's not only wide, but deep.

 

[MrJayremmie]

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Thanks for demonstrating your ignorance. It's good to know that it's not only wide, but deep.

So from that which you quoted, what is your arguement against it? Are you saying what I listed is incorrect? (Which its not), or are you saying that me claiming that Obama's 7 months in office is not worse than Bush's 8 years is wrong? And if so, how does that make me ignorant? Of course when someone doesn't have a comeback they pull out the "wow you are ignorant" card and continues to keep the same closed-minded belief that anyone with a different opinion is wrong/ignorant.

At least explain yourself and try to present yourself as someone with an informed person with an educated arguement rather than dropping 3 one liners in one thread.

 

[maxiep]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

So from that which you quoted, what is your arguement against it? Are you saying what I listed is incorrect? (Which its not), or are you saying that me claiming that Obama's 7 months in office is not worse than Bush's 8 years is wrong? And if so, how does that make me ignorant? Of course when someone doesn't have a comeback they pull out the "wow you are ignorant" card and continues to keep the same closed-minded belief that anyone with a different opinion is wrong/ignorant.

At least explain yourself and try to present yourself as someone with an informed person with an educated arguement rather than dropping 3 one liners in one thread.

--You talk about recessions. You don't bring up the 28 consecutive quarters of growth, even after the body blow of 9/11. I'd like to see President Obama rack up the same kind of record.

--President Bush's largest deficit was roughly 1/4 what President Obama is going to hit in his first year. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/28/2009.deficit/index.html#cnnSTCOther1 Hell, in CNN's wildest dreams, which painted the Bush Administration in the worst light possible, they only spoke about a $482B deficit. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/28/2009.deficit/index.html Worse yet, President Obama's $1-$2T deficits are going to be structural, not unique. If he gets what he wants on health care, they're going to sprial upward further.

--President Bush's policies brought us out of the recession he inherited from President Clinton. President Obama's policies have worsened the recession he inherited from President Bush.

--Like it or not, after getting hit by a terrorist attack on 9/11/2001, there wasn't another attack on US soil afterward. Do you think it's because the terrorists didn't try? Instead, they went after softer targets.

--You can disagree if the reasons for going to war were sound, but 52MM people are now free in Iraq and Afghanistan, freed from two of the most brutal dictatorships in the world.

--Our unemployment rate is headed for double-digits. President Bush's worst unemployment rate in one month was 7.2%. http://www.swivel.com/data_sets/spreadsheet/1017326 That was his WORST. President Obama would throw a party in Grant Park if we got down to 7.2%.

--President Bush was not liked by Chirac and Schroeder, who undercut him at every turn. It seems the French and German people didn't like them either, since Sarkozy and Merkel replaced them, with both countries moving to the right. It seems as if Britain is going to follow in the footsteps of their continential neighbors. As for President Obama, it's easy to be liked--just apologize for your predecesor standing on principle. In other words, just prostrate yourself in front of people whose goals are counter to yours, and everyone will like you. Do I wish L*ker fans to like me? All I have to do is wear a K*be jersey and talk about how great he is and how much I hate the Blazers.

--President Bush was thought of as highly partisan, but it doesn't compare to President Obama. President Bush reached across the aisle and agreed on legislation with Ted Kennedy on an education bill. That was when the Democrats were in the minority in the Senate. Could you see President Obama working with Jim DeMint? Me either.

--You make me giggle when you complain about President Bush expanding the government as a defense of President Obama. Seriously, if you're going to criticize someone, you need to be consistent. I hated President Bush's expansion of the Federal Government, and I spoke up about it. If you hate growth in the Federal Government, President Obama's policies should enrage you.

 

[Idog1976]

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In other words, just prostrate yourself in front of people whose goals are counter to yours, and everyone will like you. Do I wish L*ker fans to like me? All I have to do is wear a K*be jersey and talk about how great he is and how much I hate the Blazers.

Now you've gone too far! Comparing this relatively unimportant situation (US Presidency) to a hated enemy! I'm calling the office of Blazerland Security and ratting you out!

 

[julius]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

--You talk about recessions. You don't bring up the 28 consecutive quarters of growth, even after the body blow of 9/11. I'd like to see President Obama rack up the same kind of record.

--President Bush's largest deficit was roughly 1/4 what President Obama is going to hit in his first year. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/28/2009.deficit/index.html#cnnSTCOther1 Hell, in CNN's wildest dreams, which painted the Bush Administration in the worst light possible, they only spoke about a $482B deficit. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/28/2009.deficit/index.html Worse yet, President Obama's $1-$2T deficits are going to be structural, not unique. If he gets what he wants on health care, they're going to sprial upward further.

--President Bush's policies brought us out of the recession he inherited from President Clinton. President Obama's policies have worsened the recession he inherited from President Bush.

--Like it or not, after getting hit by a terrorist attack on 9/11/2001, there wasn't another attack on US soil afterward. Do you think it's because the terrorists didn't try? Instead, they went after softer targets.

--You can disagree if the reasons for going to war were sound, but 52MM people are now free in Iraq and Afghanistan, freed from two of the most brutal dictatorships in the world.

--Our unemployment rate is headed for double-digits. President Bush's worst unemployment rate in one month was 7.2%. http://www.swivel.com/data_sets/spreadsheet/1017326 That was his WORST. President Obama would throw a party in Grant Park if we got down to 7.2%.

--President Bush was not liked by Chirac and Schroeder, who undercut him at every turn. It seems the French and German people didn't like them either, since Sarkozy and Merkel replaced them, with both countries moving to the right. It seems as if Britain is going to follow in the footsteps of their continential neighbors. As for President Obama, it's easy to be liked--just apologize for your predecesor standing on principle. In other words, just prostrate yourself in front of people whose goals are counter to yours, and everyone will like you. Do I wish L*ker fans to like me? All I have to do is wear a K*be jersey and talk about how great he is and how much I hate the Blazers.

--President Bush was thought of as highly partisan, but it doesn't compare to President Obama. President Bush reached across the aisle and agreed on legislation with Ted Kennedy on an education bill. That was when the Democrats were in the minority in the Senate. Could you see President Obama working with Jim DeMint? Me either.

--You make me giggle when you complain about President Bush expanding the government as a defense of President Obama. Seriously, if you're going to criticize someone, you need to be consistent. I hated President Bush's expansion of the Federal Government, and I spoke up about it. If you hate growth in the Federal Government, President Obama's policies should enrage you.

For someone who claims to not be a Bush backer, or a conservative Republican, you sure went out of your way to defend Bush in this post.

 

[maxiep]

Re: Poll: Republicans more annoying when in power or out of power playing the victim

For someone who claims to not be a Bush backer, or a conservative Republican, you sure went out of your way to defend Bush in this post.

I think you draw the line too starkly. I never voted for Bush, but in retrospect, it's pretty clear in my mind he was a superior president than we would have had in either Gore or Kerry.

There's an interesting article I read today on the phobia that exists when it comes to hating our former CIC. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...sh-by-proxy-syndrome/?feat=article_top10_read

As for going out of my way, not really. I just happen not to have been blinded by hatred toward President Bush, just as I'm not blinded by love for President Obama. Also, the poster asked for a more detailed response to his question, so I gave him one. Note he hasn't responded. Perhaps he learned something.