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Which are you most excited about this coming season?

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Rastapopoulos said:
Dumb comments...Can't get too mad at the organization for taking Scoot and Sharpe. Who should we have taken instead? Maybe we should've traded down and taken Jaquez but if we had our FO would've been tarred and feathered. Turns out the Wemby draft was a one-player draft.
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Read the comment again. It doesn't criticize the drafting of Sharpe and Little Scooter. It says that they haven't developed beyond their high school playground levels. A good pro or college coach would have their BBIQs higher by now...to fit into a structured system which defines roles, to highlight every player's strengths to hide every player's weaknesses.
 
jlprk said:
Read the comment again. It doesn't criticize the drafting of Sharpe and Little Scooter. It says that they haven't developed beyond their high school playground levels. A good pro or college coach would have their BBIQs higher by now...to fit into a structured system which defines roles, to highlight every player's strengths to hide every player's weaknesses.
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This is my criticism of Chauncey Billups. I don't care for winning games. I prefer that we're losing. He's not helping these guys get better.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Dumb comments. Just because you're strong at a position doesn't mean that you shouldn't draft at the same position if the guy you draft is better. And who says we've "given up on" Simons? If anything I'm mad that we haven't.

Can't get too mad at the organization for taking Scoot and Sharpe. Who should we have taken instead? Maybe we should've traded down and taken Jaquez but if we had our FO would've been tarred and feathered. Turns out the Wemby draft was a one-player draft.
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While I voted Shaedon here and have high hopes, Jalen Williams is already an established all around stud

STOMP
 
I'm reading the usual training camp articles from other teams. Some coaches are installing a defense. Others are installing an offense.

What about installing the Billups System? I'll summarize his Media Day: Q: "Aren't you worried about getting canned?" A: "I've learned about coaching. I'm better than I was 3 years ago."

To paraphrase: "Duhhhhhhh....My next job will be an assistant coach, where I'll learn a system from a real head coach."

To fit that into this thread: We have plenty of talent, but our players don't develop because they have no system to learn. They should rename the team the Portland Anti-Excitements.
 
jlprk said:
I'm reading the usual training camp articles from other teams. Some coaches are installing a defense. Others are installing an offense.

What about installing the Billups System? I'll summarize his Media Day: Q: "Aren't you worried about getting canned?" A: "I've learned about coaching. I'm better than I was 3 years ago."

To paraphrase: "Duhhhhhhh....My next job will be an assistant coach, where I'll learn a system from a real head coach."

To fit that into this thread: We have plenty of talent, but our players don't develop because they have no system to learn. They should rename the team the Portland Anti-Excitements.
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I see no evidence that we have enough talent. We should fix the coaching situation and exchange our middling vets for draft capital and once our youngs are too good to be a lotto team we'll be set.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I see no evidence that we have enough talent. We should fix the coaching situation and exchange our middling vets for draft capital and once our youngs are too good to be a lotto team we'll be set.
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Trading youngs for better players doesn't just happen by itself. Each player we trade must improve while here, or we don't improve from trading him (unless the other GM is a sucker).

Individual improvement doesn't just happen by itself. Our youngs can't become good until a head coach has a system to teach them.

Besides, when their contracts end, they'll hightail it out of here. With their careers full of long, long loser fatigue years, every other team will look more attractive.

The tanking strategy collapses because Billups has no system to teach them.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I see no evidence that we have enough talent. We should fix the coaching situation and exchange our middling vets for draft capital and once our youngs are too good to be a lotto team we'll be set.
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Clingan just went on record saying practice at UConn was way tougher than here. How could that possibly be? Every level of sports I played practices got tougher as I improved. I didn't improve if I didn't practice harder.
 
jlprk said:
Trading youngs for better players doesn't just happen by itself. Each player we trade must improve while here, or we don't improve from trading him (unless the other GM is a sucker).

Individual improvement doesn't just happen by itself. Our youngs can't become good until a head coach has a system to teach them.

Besides, when their contracts end, they'll hightail it out of here. With their careers full of long, long loser fatigue years, every other team will look more attractive.

The tanking strategy collapses because Billups has no system to teach them.
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Yeah, I'd definitely be bringing in a better coach.
 
kjironman1 said:
Clingan just went on record saying practice at UConn was way tougher than here. How could that possibly be? Every level of sports I played practices got tougher as I improved. I didn't improve if I didn't practice harder.
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NBA is 82 games, it's a marathon not a sprint.

Guys in the NFL/NBA/etc all practice much less than those 18 year olds that basically need zero recovery time, as they should.

Not saying Billups is a perfect coach or anything, but virtually none of the Blazers problems now or long term have anything to do with coaches or practice. All the problems are poor rosters, lack of talent, overpaid contracts, few draft picks, bad GM management, and one of the worst NBA owners.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
NBA is 82 games, it's a marathon not a sprint.

Guys in the NFL/NBA/etc all practice much less than those 18 year olds that basically need zero recovery time, as they should.

Not saying Billups is a perfect coach or anything, but virtually none of the Blazers problems now or long term have anything to do with coaches or practice. All the problems are poor rosters, lack of talent, overpaid contracts, few draft picks, bad GM management, and one of the worst NBA owners.
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Got two words in response to this....

TRAINING CAMP!
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Good luck finding a "good" coach that wants to join a tanking franchise with little talent on the roster and poor management.
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yeah, I think that's very true

I don't think Billups is a good coach, but it probably doesn't matter much. I guess maybe a little for the development of Sharpe/Scoot/Clingan

I would think the Blazer negatives for any coaching candidate extend beyond management and include ownership. It's probably impossible to look at Portland's 'Owner-->Management-->Coaching-->Talent' flow chart and not see dumpster fires on every level
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Delusional
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I'm not the only one!

Lowe: I think there’s there’s real representative NBA talent almost up and down the full [roster], like once you get down to 12 or 13 guys on this team.

Jones: Yeah, I that that was one of the things that really spoke to me. I I think they have a lot of talent.

Lowe: . ... I think this team is self-aware that they need another crack at the top of the draft and another chance to get lucky in the lottery. But there’s some real talent here. I’m legit, this is not fake.
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http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/wh...-a-blazers-season.384277/page-18#post-5702757
 
SharpesTriumph said:
So we can win 22 games instead of 21?

I just don't see why that matters.

Good luck finding a "good" coach that wants to join a tanking franchise with little talent on the roster and poor management.
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To develop the young guys... Good young developmental coaches join talented young teams all the time.
 
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I’d be dumbfounded if Shae wasn’t the run away winner here
 
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