POLL: Will we keep the #11 pick?

[cheesehoff]

They don't have to look for a potential superstar with #11. If most of us get our wish and Ant, JG and Ayton are not in the long term plans, this pick has a ton of value for us. The more I think about it, the more I believe those three are on the roster to start the year with the idea to trade at the deadline or just let them walk. So, with the pick, they can get someone that can sit and develop for most of the year until a) the medium 3 get traded or b) they aren't traded, we're not making the playoffs and the 3 get "injured".
If the starting unit going forward is Scoot, Sharpe, Tou, Deni and DC then our bench is terrible once again. There has to be a plan in place to improve the second unit and #11 should be a big part of it. IMO, the only guy(s) on the bench to keep are Tisse and maybe Walker and Reath. We may not have picks in the lottery going forward so take advantage and add some quality depth while we can. We all know the FA signing history for Portland. Deni type trades are not guaranteed. So use the pick(s) now.
In my world there are 3 or 4 second unit spots that need upgraded which means they can take that vaunted BPA and slot them in wherever they want. That's why I want another early 20's pick for WCJ. I've been begging for a legit backup PG for a couple years. A second unit of WCJ, Tisse and say Noa, Coward, Bryant, Clifford is a good start to a potentially good bench.
Last, I think there are athletic bigs to be had late in the draft and can develop in the GLeague for a year to complement DC.
The bench has to improve and this would be my plan for it.

 

[andalusian]

Can you lay off with the big words?

Are you @THE HCP KD account?

 

[blazerkor]

They don't have to look for a potential superstar with #11. If most of us get our wish and Ant, JG and Ayton are not in the long term plans, this pick has a ton of value for us. The more I think about it, the more I believe those three are on the roster to start the year with the idea to trade at the deadline or just let them walk. So, with the pick, they can get someone that can sit and develop for most of the year until a) the medium 3 get traded or b) they aren't traded, we're not making the playoffs and the 3 get "injured".
If the starting unit going forward is Scoot, Sharpe, Tou, Deni and DC then our bench is terrible once again. There has to be a plan in place to improve the second unit and #11 should be a big part of it. IMO, the only guy(s) on the bench to keep are Tisse and maybe Walker and Reath. We may not have picks in the lottery going forward so take advantage and add some quality depth while we can. We all know the FA signing history for Portland. Deni type trades are not guaranteed. So use the pick(s) now.
In my world there are 3 or 4 second unit spots that need upgraded which means they can take that vaunted BPA and slot them in wherever they want. That's why I want another early 20's pick for WCJ. I've been begging for a legit backup PG for a couple years. A second unit of WCJ, Tisse and say Noa, Coward, Bryant, Clifford is a good start to a potentially good bench.
Last, I think there are athletic bigs to be had late in the draft and can develop in the GLeague for a year to complement DC.
The bench has to improve and this would be my plan for it.

If the bolded part of your post is true then the defining characteristic of both the Olshey and Cronin front offices has been to kick the fucking can until the can is worthless. We have had pathetic management over the last 13 years. Every team gets a chance to draft well but what do you do with those pieces and how do you adjust as they develop? The answer here has been you don't adjust and when you do it's the most milk toast adjustment possible.

Also, I would put money on the new owner coming in with new presidents both of basketball ops and business... but who knows. If I was Cronin's agent I would tell him he needs to make impact moves right now so he seems like more than a place holder to whoever the new owner(s) may be.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

We trade and move into 3-6 range.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Keep it unless there's a no brainer of a trade ala Trey Murphy. It's so murky without knowing what Scoot/Shae are. They need to see more of that in a full time, starter role before they can think about what they need.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

We trade and move into 3-6 range.

I'd like that. Target your guy and go get them.

 

[RonBrewer]

We should name this board to be The Rastapopoulos Edge

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Ok this isn’t going to be popular but IMO Harper will be a superstar

1. Deni and pieces for number 2 Harper (might mean adding draft pick) Deni is one of my favorite players and I was defending him during slow start to last year but Harper will be a superstar while Deni is likely borderline all star. Spurs do it because hes perfect compliment to their team at low cost $ high production. Also young so fits their timeline, yes they could get another superstar with this pick but likely wouldn’t fit their timeline.

2. Scoot to Pelicans for #7 (Pelicans are rumored to like Scoot)

then we can decide if we want to do another deal or use 7

 

[Phatguysrule]

Can you lay off with the big words?

Lol. I just like flipping him shit

 

[Rastapopoulos]

We should name this board to be The Rastapopoulos Edge

I'm not into edging

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Ok this isn’t going to be popular but IMO Harper will be a superstar

1. Deni and pieces for number 2 Harper (might mean adding draft pick) Deni is one of my favorite players and I was defending him during slow start to last year but Harper will be a superstar while Deni is likely borderline all star. Spurs do it because hes perfect compliment to their team at low cost $ high production. Also young so fits their timeline, yes they could get another superstar with this pick but likely wouldn’t fit their timeline.

2. Scoot to Pelicans for #7 (Pelicans are rumored to like Scoot)

then we can decide if we want to do another deal or use 7

I too think Harper will be a star, though I think giving up Deni is too big of a risk. That's why I was all for giving up some of those Bucks assets if Giannis were to go to Spurs. We would get Harper for those assets instead of the Bucks.

I have a bigger belief in Scoot than what's at #7. So I wouldn't touch that.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

I too think Harper will be a star, though I think giving up Deni is too big of a risk. That's why I was all for giving up some of those Bucks assets if Giannis were to go to Spurs. We would get Harper for those assets instead of the Bucks.

I have a bigger belief in Scoot than what's at #7. So I wouldn't touch that.

it would be tough pill to swallow to trade Deni but we’re still in need of that one superstar and I think Harper could be so I’d do it

as far as Scoot I’m still big fan and think he has potential to be star just not convinced after 2 years makes me concerned. id trade him if we got 7th pick and then pick a player to hopefully fill need at another position

 

[Sheldon Shape]

it would be tough pill to swallow to trade Deni but we’re still in need of that one superstar and I think Harper could be so I’d do it

as far as Scoot I’m still big fan and think he has potential to be star just not convinced after 2 years makes me concerned. id trade him if we got 7th pick and then pick a player to hopefully fill need at another position

I thought those three months of Scoot were absolutely incredible last season. Both sides of the ball. They need to clear the pathway and I have no doubt that if they did, he will blossom. His work ethic is way too strong as displayed by his pretty fast shooting turn around.

In regards to Deni, I think there's potentially a star or superstar in there. For all of us clamoring for size, Deni brings it. I'd probably say no to both deals. Honestly, the best thing we can do is clear Ant out and let Shae and Scoot have a full season of having the responsibility as starters. Then we can better assess our needs.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Ok this isn’t going to be popular but IMO Harper will be a superstar

1. Deni and pieces for number 2 Harper (might mean adding draft pick) Deni is one of my favorite players and I was defending him during slow start to last year but Harper will be a superstar while Deni is likely borderline all star. Spurs do it because hes perfect compliment to their team at low cost $ high production. Also young so fits their timeline, yes they could get another superstar with this pick but likely wouldn’t fit their timeline.

I agree with you on Harper. He will be a superstar. But I think SA knows that too. I can't see them doing it. Harper and Castle can play multiple positions. They are set up very nicely.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Ok this isn’t going to be popular but IMO Harper will be a superstar

Question: do you think that Cade Cunningham is a "superstar"? Because I don't, and everyone seems to think that Harper is not as good as him - worse shot, worse defense.

 

[kjironman1]

So hear me out a bit.

I'm wondering what it would take to get that 3rd pick from the Sixers.

Does Portland have enough to give them a true contender around Embid plus giving up the 11th pick to get them to part with #3?
In my opinion Ace Baily is exactly the kind of player this team needs.

 

[RR7]

So hear me out a bit.

I'm wondering what it would take to get that 3rd pick from the Sixers.

Does Portland have enough to give them a true contender around Embid plus giving up the 11th pick to get them to part with #3?
In my opinion Ace Baily is exactly the kind of player this team needs.

He does seem like the sort of similar big swing that they took on Sharpe. I dunno if I trust him to put it all together, but I'd sure like to try and see.
That being said, I dunno if we have what it takes without it hurting. Would Philly do Deni for 3? Would we really want to?

 

[kjironman1]

He does seem like the sort of similar big swing that they took on Sharpe. I dunno if I trust him to put it all together, but I'd sure like to try and see.
That being said, I dunno if we have what it takes without it hurting. Would Philly do Deni for 3? Would we really want to?

That seems like what it would cost. I don't know cap strategies well enough to know what they could possibly do on a bigger contract kind of player. Seems to me Grant would play well there.

 

[RR7]

That seems like what it would cost. I don't know cap strategies well enough to know what they could possibly do on a bigger contract kind of player. Seems to me Grant would play well there.

Their salary structure really ducks for making deals. It's basically Embiid, George, Maxey, and then a bunch of contracts under 8 million. SO if George is matching, then they're not really "going for it" per se, because he's better than Grant, just overpaid to all hell.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Their salary structure really ducks for making deals. It's basically Embiid, George, Maxey, and then a bunch of contracts under 8 million. SO if George is matching, then they're not really "going for it" per se, because he's better than Grant, just overpaid to all hell.

You are probably right, but at 35 years old compared to 31 years old, will Philly think he will continue to better, while paying him 20 million a year more the next 3 years.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Question: do you think that Cade Cunningham is a "superstar"? Because I don't, and everyone seems to think that Harper is not as good as him - worse shot, worse defense.
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im not relying on some NBA scout I’m relying on my keen eye for talent and I think Harper will be a superstar, I mean I once predicted BRoy was going to be a star. Just kidding no I don’t think Cade is superstar but I do believe Harper will be. SA has Fox and Castle they fill a position of need with a borderline all star and most likely get the 11th pick by making the trade. Also get a great player on a great contract.

I don’t know if either team does the deal and honestly not sure I would I love Deni’s game but still not sure we have that true superstar you need to win a finals or at least get you to one.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

So apparently both Harper and Bailey are superstars. Kind of makes you wonder why Rutgers sucked so much.

 

[Pinwheel1]

So apparently both Harper and Bailey are superstars. Kind of makes you wonder why Rutgers sucked so much.

There is a difference between are stars and will be stars.
I am completely done with Oregon trying to recruit one-and-done players. There are exceptions (Flagg), but for the most part, juniors/seniors who will not be drafted are still just as good, if not better, than most future superstars in their first year in college.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

There is a difference between are stars and will be stars.
I am completely done with Oregon trying to recruit one-and-done players. There are exceptions (Flagg), but for the most part, juniors/seniors who will not be drafted are still just as good, if not better, than most future superstars in their first year in college.

Here in Michigan we still remember the Fab Five...

 

[STOMP]

So apparently both Harper and Bailey are superstars. Kind of makes you wonder why Rutgers sucked so much.

while a single player or two can make a big difference, it's still a team game and the rest of the Rutgers team sucked

steering this back to the PTB, Portland has the supporting cast in place but needs better guard play for the team to level up

STOMP

 

[Pinwheel1]

Here in Michigan, we still remember the Fab Five...

Ha, but that was pre-NIL
Good players who are not FRPs are getting paid more to stay, rather than playing internationally.

 

[BlazerWookee]

I’ve had it with long term FAMS! I’m about the short term!

MRSHCP just tells you that when you get home. She doesn't mean it, really...

 

[BlazerWookee]

Now someone make a parallel poll, only changing "Will" to "Should."