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Mediocre Man said:
Why? Someone wanting him traded because he sucks at defense and him fucking the franchise with his bullshit 1 team demand are two entirely different things
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I disagree with the general conclusion that he's screwing over the franchise. I think that's far over-simplistic, and frankly, Dame is not on my top 3 culprits for why this franchise is in a tough spot.

If you wanted him gone, and now he's granting your wish, be thankful.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I have wanted to trade you for YEARS. Am I not allowed to boo your posts now!?!?
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Now that you mention it, you're not allowed to do that either... though not having you as the board heel and being on the right side of hoops debates will take some getting used to!
 
Propagandist said:
I will, for sure, take an anthropological approach and just observe, regardless of what the crowd does.

If I were to wager, however, I'd bet he'll receive a standing ovation.
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Might be the safest bet there is. The few psychopaths who start to boo him will quickly realize they're in the minority and put their tail between their legs.
 
Tince said:
Now that you mention it, you're not allowed to do that either... though not having you as the board heel and being on the right side of hoops debates will take some getting used to!
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I was always on the right side. People just finally came around to it :devilwink:
 
If it isn't in a game that is meaningful against our team, then I will always cheer for Dame. I don't love the way he's handled the last few months but before that he was basically flawless... his actions that I don't approve of were not unprovoked. So Dame is still my favorite player in the NBA and he will be (just like Clyde was) until someone else does something as a Blazer to supplant him.

I don't mean this as a personal attack on anyone but honestly after the team did exactly what the best player in the history of our franchise asked them not to do, I don't give a fuck (in the long run) how Dame made his exit. The idea that some of you, any of you would actually boo him after everything he has given to this team is fucking bullshit.
 
blazerkor said:
If it isn't in a game that is meaningful against our team, then I will always cheer for Dame. I don't love the way he's handled the last few months but before that he was basically flawless... his actions that I don't approve of were not unprovoked. So Dame is still my favorite player in the NBA and he will be (just like Clyde was) until someone else does something as a Blazer to supplant him.

I don't mean this as a personal attack on anyone but honestly after the team did exactly what the best player in the history of our franchise asked them not to do, I don't give a fuck (in the long run) how Dame made his exit. The idea that some of you, any of you would actually boo him after everything he has given to this team is fucking bullshit.
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The issue is we have no idea what went down.

If teams are asking #3 (Scoot) and Sharpe for someone like Mikal, I can see why Joe would turn that down. And if Dame is not happy Joe chose to do that, then I think Dame is being unreasonable.

I think if we never got #3, Joe would have traded that pick plus future picks whatever it takes to get Dame win now help. It might not be enough to put us in contention but Dame wouldn't have asked for a trade. In a way, getting lucky to get #3 made it harder for Joe to just trade it for a marginal improvement
 
inconceivable said:
The issue is we have no idea what went down.

If teams are asking #3 (Scoot) and Sharpe for someone like Mikal, I can see why Joe would turn that down. And if Dame is not happy Joe chose to do that, then I think Dame is being unreasonable.

I think if we never got #3, Joe would have traded that pick plus future picks whatever it takes to get Dame win now help. It might not be enough to put us in contention but Dame wouldn't have asked for a trade. In a way, getting lucky to get #3 made it harder for Joe to just trade it for a marginal improvement
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For Dame it wouldn't matter how it went down just that it did go down the same way it did during Joe's first trade deadline which Joe never said he would do differently, then Joe's first draft which Joe told us and I'm sure Dame that he would push all of our chips in for a win now team and then again at Joe's second trade deadline and then again at this draft and free agent process. Every time Joe looked like he was doing a youth rebuild (with the exception of the Jerami trade which wouldn't be enough if I were Dame). So what Joe has done can be completely logical and what Dame has done can be completely understandable at the same time.

For what Dame wants the reasons things didn't go according to plan don't matter and Joe himself has acknowledged that. Again, any booing of Dame if he returns at some point as a member of another team or of ours is fucking bullshit.
 
Tince said:
Easy no

And if you wanted Dame traded before this summer at any point in his career, I revoke your rights to boo him.
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a previous post Lillard tank might have drafted Keon Johnson. ..oh wait ... my bad
 
blazerkor said:
If it isn't in a game that is meaningful against our team, then I will always cheer for Dame. I don't love the way he's handled the last few months but before that he was basically flawless... his actions that I don't approve of were not unprovoked. So Dame is still my favorite player in the NBA and he will be (just like Clyde was) until someone else does something as a Blazer to supplant him.

I don't mean this as a personal attack on anyone but honestly after the team did exactly what the best player in the history of our franchise asked them not to do, I don't give a fuck (in the long run) how Dame made his exit. The idea that some of you, any of you would actually boo him after everything he has given to this team is fucking bullshit.
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Preach!
 
Lillard took the money and ran. BOOOOO!

ummm... Damian earned that contract, and somebody else has to pay him if/when he's traded.
 
Tince said:
I disagree with the general conclusion that he's screwing over the franchise. I think that's far over-simplistic, and frankly, Dame is not on my top 3 culprits for why this franchise is in a tough spot.

If you wanted him gone, and now he's granting your wish, be thankful.
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It surprises me you think that. It surprises me anyone, even those who put this all on the Blazers, think that. He and his agent took every bit of negotiating power away from Portland
 
Mediocre Man said:
It surprises me you think that. It surprises me anyone, even those who put this all on the Blazers, think that. He and his agent took every bit of negotiating power away from Portland
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Smh, showing your true colors. Go make some more false predictions
 
sheed30 said:
Smh, showing your true colors. Go make some more false predictions
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Not sure what one has to do with the other? Also not sure what “true colors” I’m showing? Did Dame and his agent not do that?
 
Mediocre Man said:
It surprises me you think that. It surprises me anyone, even those who put this all on the Blazers, think that. He and his agent took every bit of negotiating power away from Portland
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if that were actually true, I'd think we wouldn't be hearing all these rumors about Toronto and other teams being interested

right from the start you've put 100% of the blame on Dame (that after advocating for months for Portland to trade him). I didn't like the tactics of Riley's puppet, aka Dame's agent, but I know that didn't happen in a vacuum. Olshey, Cronin, and the Vulcans were the primary engineers of Dame's demands.

And contrary to the notion it was completely unprecedented, I remember that Deron Williams was all-in on the Nets; Melo was all-in on the Knicks; KG was all-in on the Celtics.

Dame's camp just took it one step further and it wasn't as big a step as people imagine. Pretty clear Dame feels the Blazers mislead him. And divorces can be ugly
 
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Mediocre Man said:
It surprises me you think that. It surprises me anyone, even those who put this all on the Blazers, think that. He and his agent took every bit of negotiating power away from Portland
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But I never said I put this all on "The Blazers". Unless by "The Blazers" you mean the collective of all players, coaches, and front office that are employed by "The Blazers", then yes, I am blaming it on "The Blazers".

I would agree Goodwin/Dame hurt Portland' negotiating power. I would disagree that they took "Every bit of negotiating power away", that would be hyperbolic. In fact, I think if Cronin truly felt had had zero negotiating power taken away from him, he would've made a deal by July 4th, not leaked info to Woj, and burned an entire off-season.

Did Dame play a role in the situation where in today? Of course!

I can't believe you think this is 100% on Dame and nobody else. I get people going with the tribalism play, but this would be one notch further.
 
wizenheimer said:
if that were actually true, I'd think we wouldn't be hearing all these rumors about Toronto and other teams being interested

right from the start you've put 100% of the blame on Dame (that after advocating for months for Portland to trade him). I didn't like the tactics of Riley's puppet, aka Dame's agent, but I know that didn't happen in a vacuum. Olshey, Cronin, and the Vulcans were the primary engineers of Dame's demands.

And contrary to the notion it was completely unprecedented, I remember that Deron Williams was all-in on the Nets; Melo was all-in on the Knicks; KG was all-in on the Celtics.

Dame's camp just took it one step further and it wasn't as big a step as people imagine. Pretty clear Dame feels the Blazers mislead him. And divorces can be ugly
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Garnett

Deron Williams and Melo were D-bags. Did Garnett demand a trade, let alone to One Team? From what I'm reading, Minnesota "was shopping him."

During the 2007 off-season, Glen Taylor admitted that although he planned on retaining Garnett, he finally listened to trade offers.[27] Garnett's name was mentioned in various trade rumors involving the Chicago Bulls, Los Angeles Lakers, Golden State Warriors, Indiana Pacers, Boston Celtics, Phoenix Suns, and Dallas Mavericks.[28][29][30][31] Garnett later confirmed that his preferred trade destinations were the Lakers, Celtics, and Suns.[32] He had initially contacted Lakers superstar Kobe Bryant about joining the team as the Lakers were his initial top choice but Bryant didn't answer or return the calls. Garnett stated, "I'm just being honest with everybody. I wanted to link with Kobe. Kobe and I had a different connect. When Kobe-Shaq went on their little thing, a lot of people went with Shaq. A lot of people didn't even fuck with Kobe. You know, Kobe, whatever. One of the very few to just stay with him. I was a neutral guy, anyway. I show everybody love. I tried to link with him, and I couldn't get him on the line."[32] The Lakers originally had a trade framework in place that involved Lamar Odom and Andrew Bynum.[32]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/...ice-for-2007-trade-was-kobe-bryant-and-lakers

Kevin Garnett didn’t have a no-trade clause when the Timberwolves were shopping him in 2007. But because he could either sign an extension with his new team or opt out in 2008, Garnett had massive leverage over where he went. Effectively, he could swing whether it was worth a team’s while to deal for him.

Four primary suitors emerged: Celtics, Lakers, Suns and Warriors.

Garnett’s initial top choice? Joining Kobe Bryant in Los Angeles.
 
wizenheimer said:
if that were actually true, I'd think we wouldn't be hearing all these rumors about Toronto and other teams being interested

right from the start you've put 100% of the blame on Dame (that after advocating for months for Portland to trade him). I didn't like the tactics of Riley's puppet, aka Dame's agent, but I know that didn't happen in a vacuum. Olshey, Cronin, and the Vulcans were the primary engineers of Dame's demands.

And contrary to the notion it was completely unprecedented, I remember that Deron Williams was all-in on the Nets; Melo was all-in on the Knicks; KG was all-in on the Celtics.

Dame's camp just took it one step further and it wasn't as big a step as people imagine. Pretty clear Dame feels the Blazers mislead him. And divorces can be ugly
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Garnett has said for years that he does not want to leave his beloved "Sota," as he calls it, consistently refusing to push for a trade even with the Wolves missing the playoffs each of the past three seasons.

https://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=2954127

 
blazerfan11 said:
Garnett has said for years that he does not want to leave his beloved "Sota," as he calls it, consistently refusing to push for a trade even with the Wolves missing the playoffs each of the past three seasons.

https://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=2954127
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Garnett's team was horrible with a bad roster and nothing to show from it in the draft.
Minnesota traded Brandon Roy for Randy Foye in the 2006 draft. Well done!
In 2007 the Timberwolves drafted Corey Brewer in the first round. Yay!


Very different from Dame's situation.
The Blazers probably added more talent from draft in 2022 and 2023 than they have since the Brandon Roy days.

Here's KG's roster in 2006-07, his last season with the Timberwolves.

2006–07 Minnesota Timberwolves roster
Players Coaches
Pos. No. Name Height Weight DOB (YYYY-MM-DD) From
C 30 Blount, Mark 7 ft 0 in (2.13 m) 230 lb (104 kg) 1975-11-30 Pittsburgh
SF 31 Davis, Ricky 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m) 195 lb (88 kg) 1979-09-23 Iowa
PG 4 Foye, Randy 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) 213 lb (97 kg) 1983-09-24 Villanova
PF 21 Garnett, Kevin (C) 6 ft 11 in (2.11 m) 253 lb (115 kg) 1976-05-19 Farragut Academy (IL)
PF 41 Griffin, Eddie 6 ft 10 in (2.08 m) 220 lb (100 kg) 1982-05-30 Seton Hall
SG 23 Hassell, Trenton 6 ft 5 in (1.96 m) 200 lb (91 kg) 1979-03-04 Austin Peay
PG 16 Hudson, Troy 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) 170 lb (77 kg) 1976-03-13 Southern Illinois
PG 13 James, Mike 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) 188 lb (85 kg) 1975-06-23 Duquesne
SG 55 Jarić, Marko 6 ft 7 in (2.01 m) 224 lb (102 kg) 1978-10-12 Serbia
C 35 Madsen, Mark 6 ft 9 in (2.06 m) 250 lb (113 kg) 1976-01-28 Stanford
SG 1 McCants, Rashad 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) 226 lb (103 kg) 1984-09-25 North Carolina
PF 9 Reed, Justin 6 ft 8 in (2.03 m) 240 lb (109 kg) 1982-01-16 Mississippi
PF 5 Smith, Craig 6 ft 7 in (2.01 m) 272 lb (123 kg) 1983-11-10 Boston College
SG 6 Wright, Bracey 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) 210 lb (95 kg) 1984-07-01 Indiana
 
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