Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are right

[magnifier661]

Well.. without yeast or other leavening agents bread tends to stay pretty flat I guess, although I'm pretty sure it's still technically bread.

Irrelevant

I got the general gist.

Not really.

I concede for the sake of argument something you're trying to claim, and then you say Wrong. That pretty much sums up this conversation.

just here to help

Individual animals don't evolve, so no idea what you're saying here.

the taco delivery truck disagrees

Well you played the Christian Hate Blinders card, when that's not at all the source of our failure to communicate.

weird, this is a thread on Christian views and you chime in to argue that you know more about Christian views than Christian.

Use that statement when you drop a atheist thread.

 

[crowTrobot]

weird, this is a thread on Christian views and you chime in to argue that you know more about Christian views than Christian.

I never said I know more about Christian views than Christians. Just that I seem to have a better grasp of how open-minded Christians try to relate to evolution than you do. Your views on the subject are potentially interesting, but in my experience decidedly non-standard. The primary problem is actually that you still have serious misconceptions of what evolution is.

Incidentally I was a Christian until age 16 or so, so not unfamiliar with theology of the trilogy, etc. At that time though (late 70s), evolution was just wrong - there was no melding with Christianity. Which is why I'm very interested in how Christians logically justify belief in evolution nowadays.

 

[magnifier661]

I never said I know more about Christian views than Christians. Just that I seem to have a better grasp of how open-minded Christians try to relate to evolution than you do. Your views on the subject are potentially interesting, but in my experience decidedly non-standard. The primary problem is actually that you still have serious misconceptions of what evolution is.

Incidentally I was a Christian until age 16 or so, so not unfamiliar with theology of the trilogy, etc. At that time though (late 70s), evolution was just wrong - there was no melding with Christianity. Which is why I'm very interested in how Christians logically justify belief in evolution nowadays.

The fact you say "was a Christian" is all you have to say. Explains just how much you know about Christianity.

 

[MarAzul]

Hey mags, a couple of separate thoughts I had while reading this thread.

If souls were not imparted until Homo sapiens my question is how do you view the fact that we are part Neanderthal? There were once 100% Homo sapiens and 100% Neanderthals who mated and had offspring. We are a result of that and about 20% of Neanderthal. So do we now only have 80% of a soul or did Neanderthals also have souls? How does that work in your theory?


Originally I stated how I consider the God of the gaps belief system that I often heard "get the ball rolling" to be inert or inoffensive and a belief system I feel is not detrimental to society and squares decently with science. You said you had that belief. I just wanted to point out that not believing in there are random mutations goes against what science has shown.
Also your statement that everything was designed for the "end result" of man I think has no scientific justification and can be detrimental to society. If you believe everything was designed for us, and ends with us, there is no reason or need to be good stewards of our world. Hence we can pillage nature, destroy non-human life and are even incentivized with afterlife, to destroy mankind.

I'm not arguing anything here, just thoughts I had and wanted your take.

Geez what a load of shit. Why don't you tell us about your best asset to contribute to world instead of trying to convince a man how he ought to believe a load of shit. Science my ass! You make it sound as if science is your religion. Science is a good tool, the people that call themselves Scientist are helpful worker and they contribute, but hell man, they don't have significant answers to salient questions.

 

[crowTrobot]

The fact you say "was a Christian" is all you have to say. Explains just how much you know about Christianity.

It in part explains why I know significantly more about Christianity than the average atheist, yes.

 

[magnifier661]

It in part explains why I know significantly more about Christianity than the average atheist, yes.

More than nothing ain't much. That's nothing to hang your hat on

 

[crowTrobot]

More than nothing ain't much. That's nothing to hang your hat on

In the words of Luke Skywalker, your overconfidence is your weakness.

 

[barfo]

The fact you say "was a Christian" is all you have to say. Explains just how much you know about Christianity.

To be fair, Mags, you seem to be making up theology as you go. I'm not sure anyone else in the world knows about your version of Christianity.

barfo

 

[Further]

Geez what a load of shit. Why don't you tell us about your best asset to contribute to world instead of trying to convince a man how he ought to believe a load of shit. Science my ass! You make it sound as if science is your religion. Science is a good tool, the people that call themselves Scientist are helpful worker and they contribute, but hell man, they don't have significant answers to salient questions.

Um, ok.

 

[magnifier661]

In the words of Luke Skywalker, your overconfidence is your weakness.

Sometimes when the sun sets, I think about popcorn

 

[magnifier661]

To be fair, Mags, you seem to be making up theology as you go. I'm not sure anyone else in the world knows about your version of Christianity.

barfo

You coming to church?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[barfo]

You coming to church?

Sorry, I need to, um, wash my hair.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

That science sounds about right.

 

[MARIS61]

This is merely the set-up for the bigger revelation yet to come, when the pope explains to catholics how metaphors and symbolism and magic and miracles are used in fictional fables to illustrate certain beliefs, points of view, codes of conduct...

 

[crowTrobot]

Mags ask if Barfo was coming to church, not in church

 

[MadeFromDust]

I really couldn't care less what the Pope says.

 

[MARIS61]

The Pope of the day not only watches old David Duchovny movies and hit tv sitcoms, he agrees with them!

Progress, I guess?