Portland -Orlando trade possibility (ESPN)

[Pinwheel1]

This actually makes sense from ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=magicpointoptions-090204

3. Trail Blazers trade Steve Blake, Channing Frye and Sergio Rodriguez for Hedo Turkoglu and Anthony Johnson
While neither Blake nor Rodriguez is a star, they are solid players who would give Orlando an instant point guard rotation. (Blake is currently out with his own shoulder injury, but he's expected to return with a week.) Rodriguez has more upside than Blake, but he's younger and more erratic as well. Both players could come off the books for the Magic next year -- meaning no long-term hit on their cap.


Just as important would be the acquisition of Frye, whose size and rebounding ability would give the Magic some much needed help on their front line.



The cost would be high for the Magic. Turkoglu's been solid and sometimes spectacular for the Magic the past two seasons. But they have enough talented wing players, particularly Mickael Pietrus and Courtney Lee, to fill the shoes of Turkoglu, who is a risk to opt out of his contract and leave Orlando this summer anyway.



The Blazers have been looking for a small forward, and Turkoglu would be a good, low-risk option. Portland might have to pay him to keep him, but a trade now would give the team a few months to see how he fits as he contributes to the Blazers' drive to make some noise in the playoffs this spring.

 

[Reep]

Hard to imagine trading Blake and Sergio. I guess that would mean they have a whole lot of faith in Badass Bayless. Hedo is certainly an interesting player with a lot of skills. And a healthy Blake would be a good fit for them.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Hard to imagine trading Blake and Sergio. I guess that would mean they have a whole lot of faith in Badass Bayless. Hedo is certainly an interesting player with a lot of skills. And a healthy Blake would be a good fit for them.

Agreed. I read it as Sergio or Blake, but you are right he does suggest both. Either way it is just his opinion. But there is some sense in his theory. (Other than Frye is a good rebounder)

 

[MrJayremmie]

A lineup of Bayless/Roy/Turkoglu/Aldridge/Oden would be badass i guess.... IDK if i'd want to trade Blake right now... If we could leave AJ and Blake out of the trade i'd do it I guess... but when Webster comes back we just have an insane logjam...

I'm debating whether I just want to start Bayless/Roy/Batum/Aldridge/Oden as I think they are the future and let them grow together.

I'm torn... But I don't think its agreat idea to give Bayless the reigns yet... even though he is producing in 22mpg right now... 11, 3 and 2. Not bad for a rookie.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

Nope. Cost is too high. Would rather let it bake (TM).

 

[craigehlo]

Orlando would hang up with that trade offer. Hedo is borderline All Star. They aren't trading him for two backup quality PGs.

 

[Iwatas]

I don't care for the trade either.

iWatas

 

[B-Roy]

I don't want to trade for anyone that's a free agent this summer. Period.

 

[crowTrobot]

Orlando would hang up with that trade offer.

that's an offer they'd have to listen to in their current
position. hedo will probably want more than they are
willing to pay next year.

Hedo is borderline All Star.

his PER this year is the same as outlaw's and less than blake's.

They aren't trading him for two backup quality PGs.

blake may not be a star but he's obviously experienced and comfortable
in a starting roll, and he's great from 3P which is presumably the main
thing they're looking to replace from nelson.

 

[illmatic99]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...54~3025&teams=4~22~22~22~19~19~4~19&te=&cash= + 2009 #1 to Chicago from Portland

This doesn't all need to be one trade, however.

 

[crowTrobot]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...54~3025&teams=4~22~22~22~19~19~4~19&te=&cash= + 2009 #1 to Chicago from Portland

This doesn't all need to be one trade, however.

i don't think the bulls aren't looking to dump hinrich for cap relief and a low 1st rounder.

 

[NattaNerNuttaMan]

i don't think the bulls aren't looking to dump hinrich for cap relief and a low 1st rounder.

That and oddly enough...Portland ends up with both of the two best players in the deal? hmmmmm......interesting

 

[alex42083]

That's a lot of faith to put in Bayless right now, and I doubt we'd trade two of our three PGs.
The other options seem to make more sense for Orlando, plucking PGs off mediocre and crappy teams while giving up guys like Bogans and Cook rather than Turkoglu.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

If we traded both Sergio and Blake, I would guess there is a 2nd deal that would follow. Maybe RLEC and Travis for Hinrich.

Lineup
Hinrich/Bayless
Roy/Rudy
Hedo/Martel/Batum
LMA/Ike (most likely we get someone else in another trade or included in one of these trades)
Oden/Pryz

A win now lineup

 

[alex42083]

If we traded both Sergio and Blake, I would guess there is a 2nd deal that would follow. Maybe RLEC and Travis for Hinrich.

Lineup
Hinrich/Bayless
Roy/Rudy
Hedo/Martel/Batum
Oden/Pryz

A win now lineup

Where's LaMarcus?

 

[PapaG]

I don't want to trade for anyone that's a free agent this summer. Period.

Exactly what I was going to post. Why trade two PGs for a SF who may be leaving after the season?

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Where's LaMarcus?

I cut him

 

[jwhoops11]

If Orlando would make that deal I'd be suprised. Wouldn't they just move Turkoglu for a better point guard option?

From the Blazers point of view great trade. If you can move Blake who might not be resigned this summer, with deadweight Frye, and Sergio for a small forward starter who is still of the age that he can be a viable option on teams that will make a championship run in the near future, go for it.

What this leaves is the ability to get a point guard with Lafrentz's contract, probably given us better over all talent then we would get in a single deal for a PG and SF.

I don't see a downside to thining the roster and adding all-star type talent in the process, while only losing Sergio who might have been with the team long term. You don't lose Outlaw, don't lose Fernandez, don't lose any other rotation player, I say this is a great deal if it's a possibility.

 

[STOMP]

Frye would make a lot of sense in Orlando. Neither Hedo or Lewis has PF size and CF's stroke would keep the D from collapsing on Dwight. With Nelson going down for the year they need to make some sort of move if they want to make any noise in the playoffs and Hedo may not be in their long term plans because of his age and fit with the club. I think Blake would be a solid fit for them as well.

One of the more realistic hypotheticals floated this season IMO

STOMP

 

[bbwSwish]

LOL @ us trading Hedo. Not happening. Nice try ESPN.

 

[hasoos]

Orlando is not going to tear their team apart because they are down 1 PG. They will try to get a replacement, and ride it out. It's not worth tearing the whole team apart just because they are down one guy. They worked too long to build it in the fashion they did, around Howard. Now they just know they need to add depth at PG, and make a run at it again next year.

Injuries happen, they are part of the game.

 

[MIXUM]

and you guys say my trade propsals are bad lol

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Absolutely not. Hedo's not young enough, nor do I think he'd gel with the team. And while I like his offensive game, I'm not excited about his defensive game.

Oh and why would we give up both Sergio and Steve. That's ridiculous.

I'd rather stand pat.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Not a great deal from Orlando's perspective because they get abused in the talent for talent equation, for the Blazers also not so good because we get an unrestricted free agent and our depth at point guard becomes dangerously thin ... unless there was some second deal to bring Hinrich or Andre Miller here.

I get the feeling ESPN.com is throwing some mud at the wall just to increase their page hits and thus their ad revenue.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Anyone remember the battles some of us had with a certain Orlando troll over at the other forum many years ago in regards to Outlaw being better than Hedo someday? Right now, looks like us Trail Blazer homers where wrong.

 

[hasoos]

Anyone remember the battles some of us had with a certain Orlando troll over at the other forum many years ago in regards to Outlaw being better than Hedo someday? Right now, looks like us Trail Blazer homers where wrong.

What do you mean us, Kemo-Sabi?

 

[crowTrobot]

Anyone remember the battles some of us had with a certain Orlando troll over at the other forum many years ago in regards to Outlaw being better than Hedo someday? Right now, looks like us Trail Blazer homers where wrong.

i wasn't there, but the final outcome is still debatable. they have similar PER and TS% right now and outlaw is 5 years younger.

 

[Blazer4ever]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...54~3025&teams=4~22~22~22~19~19~4~19&te=&cash= + 2009 #1 to Chicago from Portland

This doesn't all need to be one trade, however.

Not to be an a-hole, but one thing I noticed in your link is that someone called Gortat, who I've never heard of also has a higher PER than Hedo. That doesn't mean Hedo isn't a very fine player.

If the deal in the link happens, I'm happy.

 

[ehizzy3]

Not to be an a-hole, but one thing I noticed in your link is that someone called Gortat, who I've never heard of also has a higher PER than Hedo. That doesn't mean Hedo isn't a very fine player.

If the deal in the link happens, I'm happy.

that trade was lopsided as hell!!! and we would get chicagos first wtf? we would have to include outlaw going to chicago. chicago gets hosed in that deal

 

[KingSpeed]

I actually like this trade. I'm 100% against trades, but of all the trades I've heard, this one would hurt the least. Frye isn't playing for us and we need to choose a PG to go with and I like Bayless a lot. I don't think Turkoglu would fuck up chemistry too much. It's not a bad deal. But like I said, I'm 100% against trades right now.