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VC to NY ------Curry to Heat-------J-Will and Davis to NJ.

That would be an awesome move for us.
 
we would suck , say what you want bout vince but he is still a 20 5 5 even on a average night, if you did this you mind as well tank the season
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ondatbap @ Feb 19 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>we would suck , say what you want bout vince but he is still a 20 5 5 even on a average night, if you did this you mind as well tank the season</div>
I agree... no guarantee we can get a SG in free agency or the draft. Makes no sense unless Thorn thinks he can make a play for Agent Zero in the offseason.
 
I wouldn't mind snagging Collins or Balkman, heck maybe David Lee for Carter too. If we got two first round picks as well it would be a steal considering we got Carter for nothing and Mike Miller could fill in.
 
Thorn and kiki are making good deals but i dont want them to get carried away and the team in really gets stuck trying to score 50 points a game, i mean make the trade for miller and let carter play the season then trade him, but jason williams and ricky come on...........we can do better!!!!!!!!!!!!! look what we go for kidd! but hey what do i know im only in college.
 
Ah man, expiring contracts is all he would bring back?

-Petey
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ondatbap @ Feb 19 2008, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thorn and kiki are making good deals but i dont want them to get carried away and the team in really gets stuck trying to score 50 points a game, i mean make the trade for miller and let carter play the season then trade him, but jason williams and ricky come on...........we can do better!!!!!!!!!!!!! look what we go for kidd! but hey what do i know im only in college.</div>

I don't think it's nearly as bad as you make it sound. You get 15.76 million dollars in expiring contracts and it isn't like you were going to win a title this season either. The Nets' future looks bright, or at least decent.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 19 2008, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ah man, expiring contracts is all he would bring back?

-Petey</div>

Remember the nonsense we gave to get him in the first place? Apparently, he's still worth about the same.
 
Probably has to be done, but it really, really sucks that they are in a position where they have to do it.

That contract is BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHH!! WHY DID YOU DO THIS, THORN??!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (unstop @ Feb 19 2008, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 19 2008, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ah man, expiring contracts is all he would bring back?

-Petey</div>

Remember the nonsense we gave to get him in the first place? Apparently, he's still worth about the same.
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There were 2 draft picks, and some of the players were turned around for other assets. They did have to take on Mourning's contract, but that's what the Nets did in Hassell, was about for the same amounts.

-Petey
 
just wait till the offseason, his value will go up once he dominates the second half.
 
I'm sorry, but unless there is at least one first round pick coming back, this is a RETARDED trade. Where in the hell else are you going to get at least 20/5/5 from a single player, one who's been doing it on one leg most of the season? What is the harm in keeping him the rest of the season, seeing how the new players gel without the cancer of Jason Kidd's attitude, and then shopping Carter over the summer, if that's the best way to proceed? His value can only go up, and I'll bet my last dollar that it will. I expect him to be very motivated and to assume, by default as well as by Frank's intervention, an even bigger role in the offense. He will have to run more pick and rolls and post ups (his least exploited talent this season). His numbers can only go up.

This makes no sense whatsoever. If money for 2010 is the consideration, you still have RJ, who will be on the last year of his deal that summer and could be useful in a S&T for that reason.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 19 2008, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (unstop @ Feb 19 2008, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 19 2008, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ah man, expiring contracts is all he would bring back?

-Petey</div>

Remember the nonsense we gave to get him in the first place? Apparently, he's still worth about the same.
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There were 2 draft picks, and some of the players were turned around for other assets. They did have to take on Mourning's contract, but that's what the Nets did in Hassell, was about for the same amounts.

-Petey
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Mourning came to my school, really great guy.To bad I was so tired that day.


Anyways I don't see the plus in this for Miami and NY. your bascally trading one overpaid player for another. Instead of wasting that cap space on Curry, Reily should use that money in the off-season.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 19 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Probably has to be done, but it really, really sucks that they are in a position where they have to do it.

That contract is BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHH!! WHY DID YOU DO THIS, THORN??!!</div>
i hate when people try and defend his contract. you dont give a 30 year old who's declining fast a 60 million dollar extension, remember in the offseason, some here called it a bargain. if anything, his playoff series against the cavs where he was abysmal was a sign of him getting old
 
If you can go back in time and not resign VC to an extension, would you do it? If the answer is no, then you make this trade. You can't be greedy and expect to get an awesome deal every time. Just be happy he's off our books and look ahead.
 
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No way this happens. J-Will and Ricky Davis combine for over 15 million dollars in salary cap relief this summer, and the Heat could try to make a run at Elton Brand this summer or choose to resign Shawn Marion.

Riley would have to be senile to do this deal.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Feb 19 2008, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>just wait till the offseason, his value will go up once he dominates the second half.</div>

I'll believe it when I see it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Feb 19 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Mourning came to my school, really great guy.To bad I was so tired that day.

Anyways I don't see the plus in this for Miami and NY. your bascally trading one overpaid player for another. Instead of wasting that cap space on Curry, Reily should use that money in the off-season.</div>

This won't be the first time Thomas has inquired about Carter if true. He even went after him when he was w/ the Raptors.

-Petey
 
Imagine if we got David Lee too? We'd have so much depth Sean would actually have to play PG.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 19 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 19 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Probably has to be done, but it really, really sucks that they are in a position where they have to do it.

That contract is BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHH!! WHY DID YOU DO THIS, THORN??!!</div>
i hate when people try and defend his contract. you dont give a 30 year old who's declining fast a 60 million dollar extension, remember in the offseason, some here called it a bargain. if anything, his playoff series against the cavs where he was abysmal was a sign of him getting old
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no one can defend that contract. There were no other bidders. You pay him that much and you wait two months and say oops we fucked up.

Also it's not VC fault it's management fault.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Feb 19 2008, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Imagine if we got David Lee too? We'd have so much depth Sean would actually have to play PG.</div>

all I would take from that team is Nate, Chandler and use them off the bench. I would tell NY we want their 1st rd. pick, it is Isiah
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Feb 19 2008, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 19 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Feb 19 2008, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Probably has to be done, but it really, really sucks that they are in a position where they have to do it.

That contract is BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHH!! WHY DID YOU DO THIS, THORN??!!</div>
i hate when people try and defend his contract. you dont give a 30 year old who's declining fast a 60 million dollar extension, remember in the offseason, some here called it a bargain. if anything, his playoff series against the cavs where he was abysmal was a sign of him getting old
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no one can defend that contract. There were no other bidders. You pay him that much and you wait two months and say oops we fucked up.

Also it's not VC fault it's management fault.
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i never blame players for getting large contracts, you cant blame them, blame the foolishness off the GMs who go out there way to give them unseenly large contracts. fact is, charlotte traded a lottery big man to get JRich when they could have signed VC, MJ called him out and said he didnt want him, supposedly, orlando went after him but I SEVERLY doubt it, rashard is young then him. that leaves this question, why give him so much money when he had no place to go? he had no leverage in this and thorn folded when he had the cards in his hand
 
look im all for doing what is best but to be honest for as much as you clown vince he is only one really to take the last shot of the game i feel like if we get rid of him for just crap....nothing of promise is dumb....... yeah cap is good but who do expect to come here that can do what vince does without paying them the max........ remember he took a paycut to play here, anyone else would have wanted the max
 
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