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The only thing to look forward to is seeing MAGATs feel the impact of his decisions. MAGATs who can’t get abortions (because they do). Poor people not waking up with excess money in January. People seeing tariffs impact everyday purchases. Eliminating govt programs and departments and making America worse than it is. I will just take comfort seeing them miserable.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
What can I say; I'm an optimist. I also have a very low opinion of Trump's ability to actually accomplish much politically.
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So do I. He likes pomp, attention and most of all making money from presidency. His stupidity and incompetence stopped some of his worst agenda. That is what Project 2025 is about. Trump as figurehead and everyone bowing down. Elon Musk and far right running country.
 
GoZers said:
The only thing to look forward to is seeing MAGATs feel the impact of his decisions. MAGATs who can’t get abortions (because they do). Poor people not waking up with excess money in January. People seeing tariffs impact everyday purchases. Eliminating govt programs and departments and making America worse than it is. I will just take comfort seeing them miserable.
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Essentially, I think we're going to become a big version of Hungary.

Backward and declining in significance.

When I visited my family in Slovakia for the first time a few years ago, we took a day and went to Gombasek Cave. It's a cave system on the border of Slovakia and Hungary. The Slovakia side is more modest naturally, but there's a huge, modern ranger station there and gift shop and it looks like a big deal.

The Hungarian side is more naturally stunning, including a huge cliff face above the entrance. However, there's no real acknowledgment of this being a park site. There are a bunch of basically street vendors, the guardrails and things on the mountain stairs and cave themselves look like they're from the 1920s and a good portion of the cave is closed to the public because it isn't maintained and isn't safe.

I'd bet you'll see something similar happen to a lot of our national parks because Trump doesn't see value in something like that.
 
I promised Lashanna whatever happens I will take care of her. My family tends to live long. She was feral so I have no history. But she could be my last cat. Her name means happy and I will keep her that way no matter what.

Sadly, we can see increase in abandoned, neglected and abused children and in child porn as more women and little girls are forced to carry pregnancy against their will. And child labor already making a comeback. Child workers less likely to protest and are kept uneducated.
 
We become an ultra conservative religious, white patriarchy, where Trump gets to sleep with your bride on your wedding night. And then his minions have access to our bedrooms and control over our sexual activities (they've already shown they're really into the sex lives of American citizens). Your children are left even more undereducated and most are working in American sweatshops by the age of 10 (but at least we will have closed down those nasty Asian sweatshops). Millions of neglected wildings run the streets terrorizing the nation because abortion is illegal and the women who gave birth to those children have no interest in raising them and couldn't come close to affording it even if they did. And the sperm donors don't give a shit either. Old people are living on the streets because Social Security and Medicare have been gutted, if not outright eliminated. All housing will be owned by corporate entities and Americans who aren't completely homeless will be segregated into Conservatives and Liberal ghettoes. And Beast will be appointed Minister of Culture........
 
Trump pledged to issue an executive order ending birthright citizenship. He can then de-naturalize millions of immigrants.

14th Amendment is very clear. All persons born or naturalized in the US and subject to jurisdiction are citizens. The subject to jurisdiction is meant to refer to children of foreign diplomats who are born here but not citizens as diplomatic personnel are not subject to jurisdiction.

Right wing judge James Ho, product of immigrants, said 14th Amendment doesn't apply to war or invasion and migrants aren't immigrants, they are invaders. Amendment says no such thing but hope is Supreme court, with five of none justices Trump appointees, will overthrow 156 years of precedent.
 
I’ll give this the positive spin since that’s the way I usually roll:

Trump and Team 2025 will jump into the first months of his term equally full of energy and themselves. He’ll kick the deportation effort into high gear with some high profile roundups of undocumented folks who have largely been minding their own business. He’ll enact heavy tariffs on China and other trade enemies. MAGA faithful will cheer. There will be punitive reprisal tariffs. The economy will fall into heavy recession as prices surge upward. Crazy RFK Jr. will roll out nonsensical policies affecting public health. The GOP will break the filibuster in response to Dem efforts to slow down the Trump agenda. Two years in, things will be so bad that Trump’s popularity will crash. The midterms will be a blue wave in both houses. Trump won’t be able to do jack his last two years and will stroke out before the end of his term due to massive frustration.
 
crandc said:
Trump pledged to issue an executive order ending birthright citizenship. He can then de-naturalize millions of immigrants.

14th Amendment is very clear. All persons born or naturalized in the US and subject to jurisdiction are citizens. The subject to jurisdiction is meant to refer to children of foreign diplomats who are born here but not citizens as diplomatic personnel are not subject to jurisdiction.

Right wing judge James Ho, product of immigrants, said 14th Amendment doesn't apply to war or invasion and migrants aren't immigrants, they are invaders. Amendment says no such thing but hope is Supreme court, with five of none justices Trump appointees, will overthrow 156 years of precedent.
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How would this work? Would my wife be deported because her parents were legal immigrants from Laos, but never became citizens?

Would our kids be deported with her?
 
Phatguysrule said:
How would this work? Would my wife be deported because her parents were legal immigrants from Laos, but never became citizens?

Would our kids be deported with her?
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Good questions.

Trump put in charge of immigration policy Tom Homans, who was behind policy of taking immigrant children from parents and not returning them. Ask him.

Former secretary of veterans affairs who was forced out under threat of criminal prosecution will now be in charge of staffing Pentagon. In the intervening years he has speaking engagements at a church that literally worships assault weapons and whose pastor wears a crown of bullets. Also guest on podcast whose host blames Jews for "taking down Hitler" who he considers a hero, and also blames Jews for 9/11.

Stephen Miller will be in charge of setting overall policy agenda. Congressman who participated in January 6 insurrection will be national security advisor.
 
crandc said:
Good questions.

Trump put in charge of immigration policy Tom Homans, who was behind policy of taking immigrant children from parents and not returning them. Ask him.

Former secretary of veterans affairs who was forced out under threat of criminal prosecution will now be in charge of staffing Pentagon. In the intervening years he has speaking engagements at a church that literally worships assault weapons and whose pastor wears a crown of bullets. Also guest on podcast whose host blames Jews for "taking down Hitler" who he considers a hero, and also blames Jews for 9/11.

Stephen Miller will be in charge of setting overall policy agenda. Congressman who participated in January 6 insurrection will be national security advisor.
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How's the real estate market in Laos these days?
 
e_blazer said:
I’ll give this the positive spin since that’s the way I usually roll:

Trump and Team 2025 will jump into the first months of his term equally full of energy and themselves. He’ll kick the deportation effort into high gear with some high profile roundups of undocumented folks who have largely been minding their own business. He’ll enact heavy tariffs on China and other trade enemies. MAGA faithful will cheer. There will be punitive reprisal tariffs. The economy will fall into heavy recession as prices surge upward. Crazy RFK Jr. will roll out nonsensical policies affecting public health. The GOP will break the filibuster in response to Dem efforts to slow down the Trump agenda. Two years in, things will be so bad that Trump’s popularity will crash. The midterms will be a blue wave in both houses. Trump won’t be able to do jack his last two years and will stroke out before the end of his term due to massive frustration.
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It's our only hope.
 
Trump will with cooperation of other two branches of government consolidate power in himself alone.

He has asked Senate to go into recess as soon as they are sworn in so he can appoint everyone as recess appointments with no Senate approval needed. Clearly Republican controlled Senate will approve everyone he wants however unqualified or extreme but as recess appointments there are no hearings, no debates. Senate becomes irrelevant.

Congress returns to session and is fast tracking a bill that will allow Trump to remove any organization's nonprofit status by declaring them terrorist. No evidence needed and no appeal. It won't pass now with Democrats holding Senate but will in January.
 
Biden your dogs! Puppy killer Kristi Noemi to head Department of Natural Security.
Even those who aren't dog people don't like puppy killing. That story was told to appeal to one person, Trump. He wants to use government for revenge. She showed she is vicious enough.
Perhaps canines can post "Beware of Human" signs
 
crandc said:
Biden your dogs! Puppy killer Kristi Noemi to head Department of Natural Security.
Even those who aren't dog people don't like puppy killing. That story was told to appeal to one person, Trump. He wants to use government for revenge. She showed she is vicious enough.
Perhaps canines can post "Beware of Human" signs
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I think it's Homeland Security, but she might be better at Natural Security?
 
I think it's actually pretty hard to predict. Trump has never been interested in governing (except as an instance of exercising power, because that makes him feel good), it's always been abut winning. But there are no more campaigns to run. (Although I do predict that he'll be asking teams of lawyers to work out what it would take to get rid of that two-term limit.) So it'll all be about personal enrichment.

We've already seen that he's basically saying that he's delegating everything (except oil, always a key presidential purview) to other people, the crazier the better. But he'll still expect to get all the credit. So the big question is how long it will take for him sour on the people he's delegating to. And key question of all, is how long the Musk-Trump bromance can last. Neither one of them is exactly known for being capable of long-lasting relationships of mutual respect. Musk obviously has all the incentives in the world to keep blowing smoke up Trump's ass so he can feather his nest, but he shares Trump's inability to avoid self-destructive behavior, so... should be fun. Something to enjoy as the world burns.
 
jonnyboy said:
Seems like maybe you are miserable.
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I like you and I feel like we have always had mutual respect, but it seems like you're the one who is actually miserable.....and angry. It sounds like you have a good job, you live in a good place that offers you the opportunity to do the things you like to do, but you act like life cheated you somewhere along the line. You obviously feel like you have been treated unfairly by America somewhere along the way, so let's burn it all down. Speaking for myself, I AM miserable because all I can see is a trainload of avoidable misery (in the form of racism, misogyny, homophobia, hatred and authoritarianism) barreling down the tracks at America. And the only (cold) comfort I (and those like me) can find is knowing that all those who bought the lies are in for a very rude awakening. Otherwise, I'm happier than a hog in shit........white privilege and all that.....
 
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crandc said:
Congress returns to session and is fast tracking a bill that will allow Trump to remove any organization's nonprofit status by declaring them terrorist. No evidence needed and no appeal. It won't pass now with Democrats holding Senate but will in January.
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I had to read up on this before commenting and this is truly frightening.

We've already seen states, including Oregon, pass laws redefining what terrorism is and tying it to protests. We will see this further defined and expanded on a federal level to include very subjective and minor crimes. If a member of a group does something that is defined as illegal, the group they belong to can be declared a terrorist group.

And while some will say this is great, it will prevent people from rioting in cities, it will also be used in horrifying ways.

Labor unions are nonprofit. If a striking union blocks "scabs" from entering the work site, that's a crime and the union will be declared a terrorist organization, and their nonprofit status will be removed. A labor union can only be nonprofit. That union would no longer exist.

If a Pro-Life provocateur joins a Planned Parenthood protest and breaks a window, it's a crime, PP is now a terrorist organization, and they lose their nonprofit status, effectively putting them out of business.

If the ACLU holds a rally on courthouse steps, and someone claims they were pushed by someone attending that rally, you guessed it, terrorist organization, nonprofit status removed, ACLU no longer exists.
 
Or if ACLU or Amnesty International defends someone accused of "terrorism" under this very loose definition.
 
Democrats worry support for trans rights will limit their political power:
https://www.semafor.com/article/11/...-where-to-draw-the-line-on-transgender-rights

I predict they will try to take both sides at once and alienate a vulnerable group further, giving up on them by the midterm. The midterm blue wave will make them think this was the right move, and trans rights will be curtailed semi-permanently because of this.
 
Mike Huckabee, hard core Christian, will be our ambassador to Israel. Kristi Noem the lady who shot her dog and has fifteen brain cells is now in charge of Homeland Security. Trump just keeps hitting home runs. Such an unserious party. Idiots.
 
GoZers said:
Mike Huckabee, hard core Christian, will be our ambassador to Israel. Kristi Noem the lady who shot her dog and has fifteen brain cells is now in charge of Homeland Security. Trump just keeps hitting home runs. Such an unserious party. Idiots.
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Huckabee says there is no such thing as Palestinians and makes "jokes" about Nazi Holocaust.
 
Wall Street Journal reports Trump plans to set up a panel of "warriors" to recommend getting rid of generals and admirals not sufficiently loyal or who are "woke (which could mean anything).
 
crandc said:
Wall Street Journal reports Trump plans to set up a panel of "warriors" to recommend getting rid of generals and admirals not sufficiently loyal or who are "woke (which could mean anything).
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From the sounds of this stuff, this has an increasing chance of collapsing more spectacularly and faster than I ever imagined.

A National Guardsman and Fox News host as Secretary of Defense? What could go wrong?
 
PCmor7 said:
From the sounds of this stuff, this has an increasing chance of collapsing more spectacularly and faster than I ever imagined.

A National Guardsman and Fox News host as Secretary of Defense? What could go wrong?
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Who’s going to add “military coup” to the predictions thread?
 
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