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A championship caliber team can lose its star player and still make the playoffs.

A playoff caliber team can lose its star player and won't make the playoffs.

Without Lillard we are a lottery team.
They better hope they don't lose Lillard then.
The problem is beings that is the case they are going to LOSE LILLARD anyway at the end of the season.
He's gone!
 
My takeaway is they look bored. Also it reaffirmed my concern about Nurkic.
I agree with this take for sure.
Chauncey does not have this team engaged.
Nurk is not going to change under a new coach.
 
Quick had a good article on the preseason struggles. I wish some of you negative nancies would read it.
https://theathletic.com/2893090/202...-level-of-patience?source=user-shared-article

Just last season, with the Blazers trying to implement a new defensive scheme, they were smoked in their final three tune-ups, losing by an average of 26 points while allowing more than 125 points a game. The exclamation point was a 129-96 drubbing at Denver when the Nuggets ran circles around the Blazers in the preseason finale.

Before the team bus had left Denver’s arena, then coach Terry Stotts was beginning to question his decision to spend all of training camp and preseason altering the team’s defensive strategy. He pulled aside team leaders Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum.

“I remember when we lost the game at Denver, and right after the game (Stotts) was like, ‘Do y’all want to stick with this, or what do you want to do?’ ” Lillard recalled.

Lillard offered that if the Blazers returned to their drop coverage on pick-and-rolls, more players would know their assignment. The trio felt the Blazers were a playoff-caliber team, and they considered whether their lack of success adapting to the new defensive system could cost them when the regular season started in five days.

“It wasn’t some big meeting, but it was almost like (Stotts saying), ‘I’m not sure that we are going to execute it the way it needs to,’ ” Lillard said. “So basically, we came to the conclusion like, all right, we are going to stick to our basic coverages that we had already done.”

That brings us to Friday night and the latest stink job left by the Blazers in this winless preseason. Portland was once again routed, this time, 119-97, by Golden State as Stephen Curry dropped 41 points in 30 minutes and the Blazers clanked their way to 10-of-40 shooting from 3-point range.

The Blazers are once again learning a new defensive system, this time under the guidance of new coach Chauncey Billups. It’s similar to the more aggressive system Stotts tried to install last season — with bigs playing up at the level of the screen on pick-and-rolls — but the Blazers once again spent most of the preseason being torched. Portland finished the preseason ranked 23rd in defensive rating and last in offense. They lost by an average of 23.8 points.

This time, with two practices remaining before Wednesday’s season opener against Sacramento, there will be no wavering. No reverting to what is known and comfortable. Billups is digging in for the long fight, or “the process” he calls it, in changing the Blazers. And the deeper he digs in, the more he seems to accept that the Blazers will have to take some lumps for the greater good of progress.

“It’s not a how, it’s a you have to,” Billups said of sticking to the new defense. “It’s what we believe in. And by the way, so many other teams do it this way, really good teams, so it’s a proven fact that it works. We just have to stick with it, and we have to understand when we make small gains, to take those victories and keep building on it.

“Now, it can be frustrating, because when it doesn’t look good, it looks really bad. But we have to be better about mental toughness.”

The two players who were in that pivotal preseason meeting a year ago in Denver, sound as if they are on board with riding the wave of change.

“Obviously, that’s going to be what we do; it’s not like we are just going to go away from it,” Lillard said. “Where are we going to go away from it to? That’s the schemes and principles that (the new staff) comes with.”

Added McCollum: “We’re just going to have to get better at what we are doing. You can’t know what works until you do it, and we haven’t even had a full roster … until you do it with Larry (Nance), Cody (Zeller), Anfernee (Simons), Nas (Little), Tony Snell, Dame … until you do it with everybody, you are not sure how it’s going to work.”

It would be foolish to put too much stock into these preseason results. Lillard played all of 42 minutes the entire preseason as he focused on being fresh and rested after a summer playing in the Olympics. Zeller, the backup center, played only 13 minutes after breaking his nose in the preseason opener. Tony Snell hasn’t even practiced because of a sprained right foot. Nassir Little, after a ballyhooed offseason, played one game and then was sidelined with a hamstring injury. And Simons missed the final two games and is now wearing a splint over his right thumb. And both McCollum (ankle sprain) and Norman Powell (hip) missed practices and games.

The injuries and load management not only skewed the results but also stunted the team’s growth in practices. Still, it wasn’t a pretty sight. The four preseason games showed enough examples of poor transition, poor rotations that led to open 3-pointers, and open lanes to the rim, to evoke flashbacks of the past two seasons when Portland ranked 27th and 29th out of 30 teams in defensive rating.

“I would say we had some good moments, but we had some moments that it was like, ‘Dang. We are a lot farther away than I thought,’ you know?” Billups said Friday. “So it’s been a little up and down. I’m not too surprised with it. Any time there is change, there is a period in there where it’s going to take some adjustment.”

‘Moments of growth’
By the time Wednesday rolls around, the Blazers expect to be full strength except for Snell, who has yet to practice this season. On Friday, Little worked out hard enough during pregame to be covered in sweat. Simons can still shoot with his new splint. Zeller will be cleared to play with a protective mask. And Nance was a late scratch Friday because of a sore knee, which isn’t believed to be long term.

The starting lineup will be Lillard, McCollum, Powell, Robert Covington and Jusuf Nurkic. The top players off the bench will be Simons, Nance, Zeller and Little.

Billups is counting on progress once those nine start playing together, let alone practicing together. He insists he sees moments of growth in practices, but he wants those moments to turn into stretches.

Lillard, for one, says he can see the Blazers nearing the form they need to be on the defensive end.

“We are not far off. We are not far off at all,” Lillard said. “It can look very bad, like it’s no progress because all it takes is one thing to fuck it up. If one person is in this spot and the next person doesn’t do their part where they can help this person, it’s a breakdown. So, we’ve had a lot of good possessions, but if one thing goes wrong … all it takes is that one mistake.

“That’s why we just have to get comfortable with it and get to where everybody is trusting what the next person is going to do.”

That’s part of why Billups called the Blazers’ preseason play “spotty” and McCollum said “we are a work in progress.”

“We’ve had some moments where it looked right,” Billups said of the defense. “Then we have more moments where it doesn’t. When you are in the process of changing habits, there are some growing pains that are necessary. But more than that, you have those situations where it doesn’t seem like it’s working out, and your normal human reaction is to go with what you know … and then you start to try and do that, and then you are in between and nothing is working out.

“We’ve had a lot of those moments,” Billups said. “And I would expect we will have more of those moments. But that is what the process is all about.”

It’s tough to tell just how rough this process will be. In one breath, Billups talks about the team’s star power with Lillard and McCollum, but in the next, he warns of growing pains.

“It’s just a process, man. And we all have to have a level of patience,” Billups said.

The hardest part in this early process came last week, during a 45-point loss at Phoenix when the five starters opened the game and four of the starters played at least 21 minutes. Phoenix ran circles around the Blazers defense, so much so that Billups called it a “horrible effort” and a “step back.”

“What I don’t want to happen is while we are trying to figure this thing out, I don’t want everyone to get impatient, and then we just kind of become the team they have been — start to rely on Dame and CJ and guys to just make shots and pull us out of it. We want those guys to make shots but we want them to be created by what we do as a unit.

“We know they can do that. So I say it again — habits are really hard to change.”

Now, with the regular season approaching, the process of changing habits gets real. We will find out if accountability was just a training camp buzzword, or if it carries some consequences. And we will see just how long a new coach, and a new roster, can dig in their heels and buy into a new approach.

“Trust is going to be our main thing, on both sides of the ball,” Billups said. “Listen, some nights, it’s going to work and it’s going to be beautiful. And there will be nights where, you know, we gonna get rocked doing our stuff. But that’s the same for every team. That’s no different than any other team in the league.”

(Photo of Billups: Thearon W. Henderson / Getty Images)
 
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Feel free to rub my nose in it when we're a top ten defense.

Another difference: Stotts knew he was on thin ice and had to produce. Chauncey knows Olshey can't afford to fire him because that would be an admission Olshey fucked up, so Chauncey can be bull-headed.
 
As long as Dame and CJ are the starting back court this team will be average at best on the D side. And really that shoulnt take us to long to achieve in the regular season once we get healthy and some continuity.
 
There's a difference between looking bad and looking like the worst team in the NBA. That's what we looked like this preseason. (Well, we looked like it because we were.) With a team returning its entire starting lineup.

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The biggest, throbbing, pustulant negative of this preseason? The revisionists cackling about what a great coach Stotts was.

A year ago the Blazers were a house with a leaky roof and a crumbling foundation. Fixing one problem (Stotts) didn't magically fix the other (Olshey). That doesn't mean that the solution was to just ignore both problems.
 
Here were the positives for me: we consistently got the ball upcourt much more quickly than in the past.
Guys usually passed the ball very quickly. Usually strong effort on defense.
Unfortunately none of it was very effective in scoring or defense. Would like to see more movement without the ball.
I agree with Billups that the injuries have really hurt his teaching efforts, and I only hope he can keep them motivated until the teaching pays off.
 
I like how Nurk and Nance look on the floor together.
And I like RoCo range on 3s.
It looks like Nurk will have lots of assists this season.

And this stuff from Stotts is exactly what was wrong with this team. No effort. How can you do that in any work, let alone professional sport. "To be better, we have to learn something new. Well, it is bit hard to learn. Oh, you think? Fuck it then, let's stay pat." I mean, wtf?

It was really easy ball for Lillard and CJ under Stotts. Now they have to learn something. We will be good. Just go as far as we can from Stotts ideas.
 
Always, look on the Brighter side of life. The Blazers sucked in the preseason and it's gloom & doom in here. But at least the Lakers are in the same boat, and should tear down, and trade away their team for prospects. Their in the same boat. Based on preseason. So be happy .
 
Lakers looking to make deals to start the rebuild ala OKC under Sam Presti. News at 11.
 
I think AD for expirings and 3 1st, 3 trade swaps is fair.
 
In all seriousness, i think it will be a learning process, but the Blazers will be better for it. The Blazers were playing guys who either , are end of the bench, or won't be on the team in the second half. Brown III is at least 3 years from making an impact. Watford probably 2 years. If they're even on the team then. Ant & Nas didn't play. They are actual contributors this year. No Zeller. The ONLY guy not a starter, that played some decent minutes was Smith Jr. He has a chance to make the team and contribute. Elleby is still developing, but does show some signs of competent play. He just needs to work on that shot. I do think there's a possibility of the Blazers adding a role player once the cuts from other teams are made. Blazers MUST add depth somehow. Other than DSJ, i didn't see anyone worth keeping on the active roster. Brown III & Watford need G League time this year. A lot of it.
 
Quick had a good article on the preseason struggles. I wish some of you negative nancies would read it.
https://theathletic.com/2893090/202...-level-of-patience?source=user-shared-article
Billups definitely understands the problems he faces instilling new systems on offense and defense, and the patience that will be needed over the next couple months. So far the players sound as if they aren't discouraged yet; they are holding up better than most posters here. The article also confirmed what we saw last year; that Stotts just gave up on trying to change the defense. And now we see that Lillard and McCollum were complicit in that. It's unfortunate that all these changes, with patience needed, are taking place during the year that Lillard seems to be deciding whether to stay or go. Obviously would have been much better if Olshey had made the coaching change a long time ago.
 
Oh, another negative; as far as I can tell McLemore is on a guaranteed contract and he does not look good, especially on defense.
He was awful. His shot is worse than Elleby's. Very disapointing.
 
Positives:

Damian played basically 1 game, he's not going to put up the low #'s he did.

They didn't play bad when fully healthy.

Brown showed a lot of energy.

Negatives:

Everything and everyone sucked.
CJ still sucks ass at defense.
Nurk still thinks he's 6"4" and goes up soft.
Simons and Little (esp Little) needed to show up and perform. Simons kind of did, Little didn't.
Nance was meh.
McLemore showed why he's never stuck in the league. Same with Smith Jr.
The defense, while better, is still bottom 25 of the league.
The offense is coincidentally, also bottom 25 of the league.
Snell didn't play at all (not sure that matters).
Team still plays like they can just turn on a switch and things will be fine.
They make stupid mistakes and play like they're a top 5 team and can get away with sloppy passes.

All in all, if the team doesn't gel and improve, they're a 30 win team. At best. On the positive, they would then keep their pick for next year.
 
Billups definitely understands the problems he faces instilling new systems on offense and defense, and the patience that will be needed over the next couple months. So far the players sound as if they aren't discouraged yet; they are holding up better than most posters here. The article also confirmed what we saw last year; that Stotts just gave up on trying to change the defense. And now we see that Lillard and McCollum were complicit in that. It's unfortunate that all these changes, with patience needed, are taking place during the year that Lillard seems to be deciding whether to stay or go. Obviously would have been much better if Olshey had made the coaching change a long time ago.
I did like what i saw in that 1st half, especially on defense, other than Nurk's lousy shooting. They were giving fits to the Warriors, with basically only 6 guys that can actually play.
 
Positives:

Damian played basically 1 game, he's not going to put up the low #'s he did.

They didn't play bad when fully healthy.

Brown showed a lot of energy.

Negatives:

Everything and everyone sucked.
CJ still sucks ass at defense.
Nurk still thinks he's 6"4" and goes up soft.
Simons and Little (esp Little) needed to show up and perform. Simons kind of did, Little didn't.
Nance was meh.
McLemore showed why he's never stuck in the league. Same with Smith Jr.
The defense, while better, is still bottom 25 of the league.
The offense is coincidentally, also bottom 25 of the league.
Snell didn't play at all (not sure that matters).

All in all, if the team doesn't gel and improve, they're a 30 win team. At best. On the positive, they would then keep their pick for next year.
I think 30 wins is a little extreme , considering they played with mostly guys who, won't make the team, or are end of bench 2 way guys. The Blazers may start off slow, but they should be better with the additions of Zeller , Nance, and the improved play of Simons, and hopefully Nas. That's 9 guys. I think DSJ, if he makes the final roster will contribute. Can't say anything yet on Snell. Brown III, Watford, McLemore, & Elleby probably won't contribute a thing. But the 10 players that will be in the rotation will be fine.
 
#Chicago Bulls got better! Simply put, we got worse.

#Ownership needs to see the problem and fire him!

**Olshey must go ASAP**

#Team has NO soul.

#CJ + Nurk for KAT still looks appealing

#CJ for Simmons feels like an experiment - could work, might not?

#We could use a tough PF - like Julius Randle

#I’m sorry, but RoCo, as likable as he is, would be great coming off the bench as 7th man, but he doesn’t impact the game enough to be a starter

# In five years, we will wish we had extended Simons

# Trade. And include Little - the guy is made of play dough

# sorry, but Kanter is as good as Nurkic; better trade him with Little and CJ and bring in talent

# Ok. Ok. Melo would not be an asset to THIS assemblage

# I mean WTF: Blevins / Elleby / Mclemore / Snell /
Watford / this is piss poor

# The above has ONE common thread. And he must be fired ASAP!!

# The Good? The “Caption Contest” could get really fun this year!


Random thoughts on the 2021-22 Season
 
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I do think all the poor shooting was due to weary legs from all the hard work in camp on defense. It's a process.
It's my opinion that the Stotts' teams were never really in great shape. They didn't have to be with the defensive and offensive systems we ran, both in games and in practice. So it will take a while to get in better shape; hopefully it will pay off over the long season. Of course I think the starters will play less minutes this year, so hopefully they will stay fresh and strong.
 
Depending on your situation, preseason means many different things to many different people. For young crappy teams, like the Magic or Wolves, winning and looking good is very important. They hope the vibe of winning and seeing some success from all their hard work in camp can carry over. For contending teams like the Bucks and Lakers, it just doesn’t mean as much. They realize they can just turn it on whenever. Sometimes they can and sometimes they can’t.
I watched a couple of those contending team’s preseason games, and they could have won, but pulled their starters. But what does it mean for middle of the pack teams like the Mavs, Pacers or us?
What does it mean if you have a tenured coach like Spo or Pop, compared to a rookie like Coach Billups?

That said, what does it mean to fans. I’m quite sure Nets fans look at it differently than Wiz fans.

I, in all my honesty while watching the 4th quarter tonight, was thinking to myself, trying to figure out a SINGLE POSITIVE from this preseason. And I just couldn’t see a single thing that has got me going into the season excited or pumped. Like what is our new staff sitting on the plane tonight saying to each other that they hope “BLANK” continues and carries over to the regular season?
If you guys have anything you feel looked great out there, please share.
I’m sure some will say, “Don’t overreact, it’s just preseason” Or, “Give it some time” Then that answers my question on what you think or expect from preseason.
I can understand the wait and see thing and thats what I’m doing.
I will give them 30 games before I really start to judge, but there is usually a few things I saw that give me some hope……just didn’t see it this year. #RipCity

Preseason doesn’t mean jackshit to me.
It means even less with a first year head coach who is overcoming *10 years* of terrible habits.
I expressed this on my old account that I can’t access anymore but I said Stotts should’ve been canned years ago because of this.

everything Billups has said has just reinforced what I feel. “We aren’t going to make real progress until later in the season … hard to break 10 year old habits… etc”

With that said, you can clearly see better defensive rotations *at times*. But the chain always gets broken somewhere. Probably a product of not playing starters and being able to practice much.

offensively I’ve not seen anything differently and it looks worse. Maybe because dame isn’t playing much. Or I hope.
 
our defense in the first quarter was a sign of what we can do. trapping steph, then rotating out was a sight for sore eyes.

but kerr adjusted... and we didn't counter. it looked like our guys had no idea where to be.

it's gonna take some time. i just hope chauncey sticks to it instead of reverting back to terry's old strategies to salvage regular season wins.

The Blazers don't have time. They have to win or Dame is gone. Time is no longer a commodity the Blazers have. They are out of time.
 
Wat to early to even have any idea how good or bad this team will be. Our key guys didn’t even play one of the preseason games. Anyone who thought we’d go into the season and have success was kidding themselves. New coach and complete overhaul of offense and defense. I’ll hold my judgment till about 15-20 games into the season.

I’m not all doom and gloom it will either work or won’t. If it doesn’t you still have dame, Nurk and CJ as trade pieces. You start with 4-5 draft picks plus good players in return and the rebuild begins
 
The Blazers don't have time. They have to win or Dame is gone. Time is no longer a commodity the Blazers have. They are out of time.
I think he means at the beginning of the season. I think once the team gets their legs the shooting will improve. But i can see improvement. I think if the team gets better as the season moves forward, everything will work out. Including Dame's Blazer future. By the way, say Dame in a new Modelo commercial. Pretty Damn Cool.
 
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