Politics President Trump Now Says That Wasn’t Him on Access Hollywood Tape

[barfo]

None of those things. And all of those things.

I don't care if another gun gets sold or if abortion quadruples.

What I care about is following the letter of the law. If the Republicans could pass a bill that follows the constitution and somehow outlaws abortion....good for them...... don't like it, repeal it. If they can't pass one that is allowed by the constitution.....good.

If the dems can pass a law that restricts gun owners and is constitutional..same thing.

I don't want the constitution treated like a traffic cop giving you a pass for speeding if you're taking your wife to the hospital to give birth.

I'm fine with that cop doing so but only if he has the legal authority to do so. Not just because I agree with it.

There isn't a single law I want interpreted based on my feelings. Not one.

I don't want to hear about the court doing anything that is in the least bit political. Sorry

And you think that right-wing judges are somehow not political?

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

And you think that right-wing judges are somehow not political?

barfo

Less likely is all you can count on. By the slimmest of margins.

Trump is the only one who even said he'd appoint judges that would uphold the constitution.

Yep, him saying it is the winning choice between the two. Pretty sad.

 

[Chris Craig]

The color red is MUCH more important in the United States than blue, but outside the U.S. the color blue is still a major source of fake news, and blue represents our nation to the WORLD very poorly. The outside world does not see the truth from them! Even Russia likes the color red.

 

[barfo]

Less likely is all you can count on. By the slimmest of margins.

Trump is the only one who even said he'd appoint judges that would uphold the constitution.

Yep, him saying it is the winning choice between the two. Pretty sad.

What's sad is that you believed something - anything - he said. Did you not notice that he's completely full of shit?

I'm curious what past court decisions you think went against the constitution - I assume there must be some or this wouldn't be something you'd be a single-issue voter on.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

What's sad is that you believed something - anything - he said. Did you not notice that he's completely full of shit?

I'm curious what past court decisions you think went against the constitution - I assume there must be some or this wouldn't be something you'd be a single-issue voter on.

barfo

You would believe anything Hilary said?

I have shit to do at work or I'd spend a half hour finding all the proof of her lies...well, just a small sample anyway.

Illegal immigration is the main issue I voted on. The court was just in response to your analogy.

If there was a more right leaning Bernie Sanders he would have been my choice. Trump was the slightly lesser of two evils.

He still is, he's just nuttier than I thought.

I've been saying someone needs to get him off twitter since the beginning. It is 95 percent of what's hurting him.

Throwing in an unnecessary Pocahontas reference is part of the other 5.

I just don't get the guy.

 

[barfo]

You would believe anything Hilary said?

I have shit to do at work or I'd spend a half hour finding all the proof of her lies...well, just a small sample anyway.

So if neither of them is believable, isn't it kind of nonsensical to vote based on what either of them did or didn't say?

Illegal immigration is the main issue I voted on. The court was just in response to your analogy.

Ah, ok. So, are you happy with the results on that front?

barfo

 

[dviss1]

I'm starting to think/hope he's just straight up fucking with us. However, what's he doing while the rabid pack is attacking his stupid tweets?

Also, this would be a perfect story to sniff out a leak.

He should watch The Departed and learn some stuff.

Yeah... Like you'd be thinking that if it were Obama...

 

[Strenuus]

All I wanted was Bernie and we never got a chance to vote for him.

To me, upholding the constitution is like letting your ex-girlfriend come back to live with you. Sure, you like what they use to bring, but it's been clear over time that it wasn't working and changes needed to be made. You learned that you needed to change your ways to become a better person. Sure, there are things that are still good about them, absolutely. But you wouldn't want to take it at a totality...

Change is good. Embrace it. Stop living scared and make changes to better yourself.

Flame me all you want, but for the love of god lets make our society a loving place where we take care of each other. Call me a SJW, but that just tells me that I care about other people and getting others the help and care they need to feel appreciated and heard. Getting real tired of hearing all these groups of people getting hurt because of something they have no control over. If that were you, wouldn't you wanted to be treated fairly? Have some empathy.
Please, lets just love people.

/rant

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Yeah... Like you'd be thinking that if it were Obama...

I liked Obama. Never thought he was really as idealistic as everyone said. I do think he's living in a pretty fat pad these days.

Somewhere I've said here that the first time I heard him speak at the DNC (convention) that I'd vote for him.

I still hate when he didn't flatly tell that girl who interviewed him that illegals should be afraid to vote. But, I'd have deported my own aunt if I were him.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

So if neither of them is believable, isn't it kind of nonsensical to vote based on what either of them did or didn't say?



Ah, ok. So, are you happy with the results on that front?

barfo

Somewhat. I work with 15 Mexicans, some who were Reagan amnesty recipients. They say (could be fucking with me) that lots of them are saving to retire back home and that some of the younger ones at home are deciding not to come.

Never wanted a wall, think it is stupid. Just the idea that ICE can do their job is a good start.

I know people will lob that Obama deported more than anyone crap and we all know that's bull.

 

[dviss1]

I liked Obama. Never thought he was really as idealistic as everyone said. I do think he's living in a pretty fat pad these days.

Somewhere I've said here that the first time I heard him speak at the DNC (convention) that I'd vote for him.

I still hate when he didn't flatly tell that girl who interviewed him that illegals should be afraid to vote. But, I'd have deported my own aunt if I were him.

Liberals don't use the term "Illegals". Obama deported more "Illegals" than any president in history.

I know people will lob that Obama deported more than anyone crap and we all know that's bull.

Prove it.

Immigration was at a NET ZERO under Obama.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Liberals don't use the term "Illegals". Obama deported more "Illegals" than any president in history.



Prove it.

Immigration was at a NET ZERO under Obama.

I'll see your idiotic "net" numbers which were almost entirely due to the economy after 2006 or so (which they mention in the article you didn't read but linked)

And raise you a good article. Which mentions something I'm actually happy about if you care to read it.

They used to just say "no you don't" and call it a return. Now they actually give people caught at the border formal orders to stay out.

That's where all the "deportations" Obama did were from.

That part I like. The not giving a shit if you're already here is the part I didn't.

You're net number is solely due to people who live close to us wanting to come here and steal construction jobs from us and many many more. They want the money, not to be Americans.

I don't know why you can't see it or just don't care. We just don't care about much of any of the same issues.

Turning America into an overpopulated underprivileged shithole should be something people want to avoid but they don't.

 

[dviss1]

I'll see your idiotic "net" numbers which were almost entirely due to the economy after 2006 or so (which they mention in the article you didn't read but linked)

And raise you a good article. Which mentions something I'm actually happy about if you care to read it.

They used to just say "no you don't" and call it a return. Now they actually give people caught at the border formal orders to stay out.

That's where all the "deportations" Obama did were from.

That part I like. The not giving a shit if you're already here is the part I didn't.

You're net number is solely due to people who live close to us wanting to come here and steal construction jobs from us and many many more. They want the money, not to be Americans.

I don't know why you can't see it or just don't care. We just don't care about much of any of the same issues.

Turning America into an overpopulated underprivileged shithole should be something people want to avoid but they don't.

I'm not even going to respond to this. It completely neglects history. Rapers and pillagers took this country and want to try to expel people from it... It's weird...

 

[barfo]

And raise you a good article. Which mentions something I'm actually happy about if you care to read it.

It will be hard for us to do that, since you didn't link it.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

It will be hard for us to do that, since you didn't link it.

barfo

I tried

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'm not even going to respond to this. It completely neglects history. Rapers and pillagers took this country and want to try to expel people from it... It's weird...

Let's all go home. I will if you will.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

It will be hard for us to do that, since you didn't link it.

barfo

https:///www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story,amp.html

 

[BonesJones]

I'm not even going to respond to this. It completely neglects history. Rapers and pillagers took this country and want to try to expel people from it... It's weird...

So by your logic, in a rapist and a pillager because I'm white? What English settlers and early white Americans did in the past defines are race?

That's like if I generalized African-Americans as slaves...

 

[crandc]

So who the fuck was it? And why hasn't Trump sued the guy for using his name and image when it wasn't him?

This asshole can't open his mouth without lying. Apologies to assholes for the comparison.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

So who the fuck was it? And why hasn't Trump sued the guy for using his name and image when it wasn't him?

This asshole can't open his mouth without lying. Apologies to assholes for the comparison.

 

[KingSpeed]

Normally anything Susan Sarandon thinks is so completely opposite what I think that YOU'RE the ones who should rethink things.

If she's telling you Hillary is bad....omg

Susan Sarandon has always hated Hillary. She's crazy Bernie supporter.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Susan Sarandon has always hated Hillary. She's crazy Bernie supporter.

What's that tell you?

 

[dviss1]

@dviss1 You should really respond to this...

You just generalized the current white man a rapist and a pillager because of what the white man has done in past centuries. That's like generalizing all cops as killers or all Mexicans as cartel members... That's extremely offensive by your standards...

Why should I respond to that bullshit question? Its stupid and doesn't move the conversation forward. You keep talking about the past but don't realize you are denying the PRESENT.

And PRESENTLY, we have a white supremacist in office. Plain and simple.

Giving him ANY type of cover for his racist actions is just part of the problem.

 

[dviss1]

Let's all go home. I will if you will.

I am home. I was born here and this country was built on the backs of my people. Why would I go to a country I've never been to and don't have a history with and don't speak the language?

I'm American bro... It's thoughts like this that continue to separate us...

 

[dviss1]

So by your logic, in a rapist and a pillager because I'm white? What English settlers and early white Americans did in the past defines are race?

That's like if I generalized African-Americans as slaves...

And this also doesn't further the conversation about the systemic white supremacist society that we have set in place.

From police, to court sentences, to areas policed, to housing, to healthcare, you name it, the disparities are downright shameful.

So no you're not a fucking pillager and I wasn't calling you that. Stop being defensive. I'm saying denying or skirting the fact that systemic white supremacy is in place is again, part of the problem.

And the problem starts with the racist Hutt in the White House.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I am home. I was born here and this country was built on the backs of my people. Why would I go to a country I've never been to and don't have a history with and don't speak the language?

I'm American bro... It's thoughts like this that continue to separate us...

If you're going to bring up white people stealing the land from the natives you can't have it both ways.

Either agree that we all give it back because it is stolen or live in the now.

I'm not going home, I'm not sure where that is if not here.

 

[dviss1]

If you're going to bring up white people stealing the land from the natives you can't have it both ways.

Either agree that we all give it back because it is stolen or live in the now.

I'm not going home, I'm not sure where that is if not here.

Sigh... This is not that hard. Just help us take down this system of supremacy... Make shit fair... That's all... Jesus...

 

[dviss1]

If you're going to bring up white people stealing the land from the natives you can't have it both ways.

And yes I can because both happened. The land was stolen and we were forced to work it.

Bottom line, that started the system of supremacy, that people act like doesn't exist, that needs to be recognized, so shit can be fair.

And at the tippity fucking top of that system is who?

The racist in chief.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

And yes I can because both happened. The land was stolen and we were forced to work it.

Bottom line, that started the system of supremacy, that people act like doesn't exist, that needs to be recognized, so shit can be fair.

And at the tippity fucking top of that system is who?

The racist in chief.

You're rambling on. Trump is the reason for all of that? Really?

Fairness? That's the only thing I care about. Blocking white owned business during the holidays ain't fair. About as unfair as you can get.

 

[dviss1]

You're rambling on. Trump is the reason for all of that? Really?

Fairness? That's the only thing I care about. Blocking white owned business during the holidays ain't fair. About as unfair as you can get.

I never said he was the reason. BUT, he is certainly enabling it. He isn't stamping it out like he should be. He can't even denounce white supremacists... That's easy. That's low hanging fruit...

Blocking white owned businesses?? Now you're rambling. WTF are you talking about?