Primary Backups vs. Third Stringers

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Curry behind Stauskas?

Wut....
why not?
Probably a stretch but I wouldnt count Stauskas out, he's much like Curry in that he's moved around and never really stuck.
Should be really competitive for back court pt of the bench.
 
why not?
Probably a stretch but I wouldnt count Stauskas out, he's much like Curry in that he's moved around and never really stuck.
Should be really competitive for back court pt of the bench.
Curry is 10x better than Stauskas. The difference between them is as big as the difference between Baldwin and Lillard. It's not close.

If Stauskas improved enough to beat out Curry, then he'd be a lock for the Most Improved Player award.
 
Curry is 10x better than Stauskas. The difference between them is as big as the difference between Baldwin and Lillard. It's not close.

If Stauskas improved enough to beat out Curry, then he'd be a lock for the Most Improved Player award.
Maybe so and Curry really is a pg, so you see him beating out Baldwin as backup pg/
If he's ten times better than Stauskus why hasn't he stuck somewhere?
I hope you are right though that he's that good.
 
Maybe so and Curry really is a pg, so you see him beating out Baldwin as backup pg/
If he's ten times better than Stauskus why hasn't he stuck somewhere?
I hope you are right though that he's that good.
How is he "really a PG"...?

Good players move around all the time for many different reasons. He was hurt last year or else he'd have played 2 seasons in Dallas. He's also played for rebuilding teams so they haven't needed a good player in their prime.
 
Stauskus is naturally a SF...he won't play point guard at all in my view...he has to beat out Mo, Layman, Trent, ET for playing time although I see Layman as more of a PF
 
Stauskus is naturally a SF...he won't play point guard at all in my view...he has to beat out Mo, Layman, Trent, ET for playing time
Naturally based off skill? Because he's really undersized for the position.
 
The more we talk about how certain players probably won't get playing time despite our most vehement protestations, the more I wonder if our third line is actually better than our second, depending on how they're split up.

My best guess as of this moment is that our primary positional backups are Baldwin, Curry, Turner, Layman, Collins, with our third string being Simons, Stauskas, Trent, Swanigan, Leonard. Imagine those units faced off.

Looking at it laid out like that, the 2nd stringers have the clear defensive advantage with Wade, ET, and Zach, as well as superior ball handling across positions 1-3. The 3rd stringers would own the boards, and appear to have the best shooting across the board (although Curry and Layman certainly could hold their own). 2nd string looks to have an athleticism advantage; size is pretty comparable.

What do you think? Would you divide the 2nd and 3rd string differently than I did? How would the scrimmage play out? Does this thought exercise tell you anything about the future of the team?
This is why we will be 40-42 and not make the playoffs FAMS.
 
Neil doesn't choose who plays, Stotts does. That said, we will probably see something like this to start the season. Stotts is going to do a lot of experimenting. Too much experimenting. Stauskus should be a situation guy, not a solid 2nd string. Meyers will get minutes. Stotts will want to look at 3 guard combinations with Collins in the front court with different guys at power forward. Maybe have hark leave early and come back in with the second string. Probably be forced to give Meyers some minutes now that Davis is gone. Stotts will go extra small with sfs at the pf position...Hark, maybe Layman. Stotts will always look to have a starter or two in, with bench guys working in around them. The front court is thin as a potato chip. Gonna force some
Unorthodox lineups. Putting shooters around Turner off the bench makes sense. I wish Turner was gone.

If It was up to me:

2nd String

PG: Wade Baldwin
SG: Curry
SF: Turner
PF: Hark out early back in at the 4
C: Collins

3rd String
Simons
Trent
Meyers
Swanigan
Layman
Stauskus

I'm simply showing what I think the depth chart will look like at the beginning of the season. It's not what I want.
 
How is he "really a PG"...?

Good players move around all the time for many different reasons. He was hurt last year or else he'd have played 2 seasons in Dallas. He's also played for rebuilding teams so they haven't needed a good player in their prime.
I know guards are guards these days, so you are correct.
I just remember him playing pg for Dallas and at 6'2" thats fairly small for a SG. Small off guards can be a detriment on D as well.
Some sites have him listed as a sg and some pg.
I guess Stotts is good playing two small guards on the court, however.
 
I know guards are guards these days, so you are correct.
I just remember him playing pg for Dallas and at 6'2" thats fairly small for a SG. Small off guards can be a detriment on D as well.
Some sites have him listed as a sg and some pg.
I guess Stotts is good playing two small guards on the court, however.

I think curry will take a combination of Patty and Shabazz’ mins.
 
This thread makes me sad. Were comparing curry and stauskas... Curry is the better player but i still dont think it makes us that much better. We will make the playoffs... But will we make noise in it? With the same starting unit, i dont think our bench got better enough to keep up with the titans of the west. I hope to be wrong, and thats why they play the games.
 
I know guards are guards these days, so you are correct.
I just remember him playing pg for Dallas and at 6'2" thats fairly small for a SG. Small off guards can be a detriment on D as well.
Some sites have him listed as a sg and some pg.
I guess Stotts is good playing two small guards on the court, however.
He has a taller standing reach than CJ, FWIW. He's an OK defender as well.
 
Our lineups after the trade deadline will look different than opening night. CJ is 100% getting traded by the deadline. Book it. You don't shove half a dozen guards into your roster without it being an audition and a backup plan. If we get a kickass SF or PF for CJ+ then all this weirdness at SG/SF starts to sort itself out.
 
Our lineups after the trade deadline will look different than opening night. CJ is 100% getting traded by the deadline. Book it. You don't shove half a dozen guards into your roster without it being an audition and a backup plan. If we get a kickass SF or PF for CJ+ then all this weirdness at SG/SF starts to sort itself out.
I'm afraid that you'll be sorely disappointed.
 
Leonard as a third string in his... what year is he in? 7th? And he still gets $10 mil.

Good job, Neil!
I have a gut feeling Stotts will put Meyers into the rotation to start the season to see what he can do.

Or maybe it's just indigestion ;)

:cheers:
 
I'd honestly rather out Meyers out there than Biggie.
Yeah, I don't think Meyers is "third string" ATM. I think he'll get a chance, and Biggie will have to beat him out. We'll see I guess.

:cheers:
 
I have a gut feeling Stotts will put Meyers into the rotation to start the season to see what he can do.

Or maybe it's just indigestion ;)

:cheers:
Though I put Layman in the 2nd string in my OP, I wouldn't be surprised for that to be the case as well. Specifically, I could see him giving the Collins/Meyers pairing a long look over the first 20 or so games. I wonder if perhaps we'll find their mentalities and skillsets to be highly complementary.
 
As an aside, if they all have their shot, Stauskas/Layman/Collins/Leonard would be an interesting "Pale Blazers" lineup to pair with Dame.
 
Specifically I pegged those 4 because they probably have the best combination of size and shooting range (on paper) across the 2-5 positions; it just so happens that that particular moniker (which I certainly didn't invent) also accurately applies to that group. However, I can easily see how my initial post might be misinterpreted negatively.
 
Specifically I pegged those 4 because they probably have the best combination of size and shooting range (on paper) across the 2-5 positions; it just so happens that that particular moniker (which I certainly didn't invent) also accurately applies to that group. However, I can easily see how my initial post might be misinterpreted negatively.

No, it was funny. It just surprised me.
 

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