Eastoff
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probably for the best
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This just proves they never could do it in the first place 
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A smart move by the Obama Administration. There's a great blog about this issue here: http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=24520
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To come up with the $9B that Bush spent on this, he cancelled several great unmanned probes, like the nuclear mission to Jupiter, tried to cancel others, like the monitoring of the Voyagers at the edge of the Solar System, and stretched out others many years, like missing the 2009 launch window to Mars for the nuclear rover.
http://sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152493&highlight=moon
When a president announces a $100B project, takes credit for it, and then refuses to fund it, he is in effect giving orders to the next president to make him look good in the history books. It won't work.
http://sportstwo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152493&highlight=moon
When a president announces a $100B project, takes credit for it, and then refuses to fund it, he is in effect giving orders to the next president to make him look good in the history books. It won't work.
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Robert Zubrin, president of the Mars Society and the No. 1 proponent of going to Mars, says that Bush essentially said, "I think it's a good idea to go to the moon and Mars, and whoever is elected in 2012 can work on it."
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Unmanned probes are better than manned ones:
http://www.xkcd.com/695/
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Unmanned probes are better than manned ones:
http://www.xkcd.com/695/
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I've never seen the real life benefits of space exploration, considering the cost.
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I'll tell you why I read a lot about space. Well, there are 2 possible goals of history, 1) to maintain the status quo or 2) to improve things. I guess you have to be a little idealistic or liberal to believe in 2). If you do, there are 2 subsets: 2a) technological improvement and 2b) social improvement.
As long as conservatives rule, which they usually will because fighting comes more naturally for them, 2b) improving the social order won't happen. So all I can look forward to during my life is 2a) technological improvement.
What will be in the history books 500 years from now? A clue to find out is, what do those of us who aren't professional historians remember about 500 years ago? Do you know of the wars of that century without looking them up? Do you know of the technological improvements made then? Or do you know of the explorations? 500 years from now, all that will matter to nonhistorians about the 20th Century is what we did in space exploration and in furthering the use of electricity. And only the smart people will know even that.
So I think that science and space exploration (unmanned is much cheaper) is the only thing that our government does that is worthwhile. That's all our era will be remembered for 500 years from now, by those who aren't professional historians.
As long as conservatives rule, which they usually will because fighting comes more naturally for them, 2b) improving the social order won't happen. So all I can look forward to during my life is 2a) technological improvement.
What will be in the history books 500 years from now? A clue to find out is, what do those of us who aren't professional historians remember about 500 years ago? Do you know of the wars of that century without looking them up? Do you know of the technological improvements made then? Or do you know of the explorations? 500 years from now, all that will matter to nonhistorians about the 20th Century is what we did in space exploration and in furthering the use of electricity. And only the smart people will know even that.
So I think that science and space exploration (unmanned is much cheaper) is the only thing that our government does that is worthwhile. That's all our era will be remembered for 500 years from now, by those who aren't professional historians.
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Can I assume you mean, manned missions? I think there are some very technical experiments done in limited gravity environment
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my summary of
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-02-02-20-58-19
NASA is going back to its 1959-60 roots, when it did more research and development than engineering. NASA hopes there will be multiple spaceships. There may be a couple more companies competing than the following 7.
A year ago, the space agency gave $3.5 billion in contracts to the following 2 companies for 20 cargo flights to the space station. Both companies will also develop crew taxis to the space station. SpaceX says they could fly astronauts within 3 years of a final contract for $20 million a head, less than half the price NASA pays for Soyuz.
1) SpaceX, Hawthorne, CA, (run by Elon Musk of PayPal, has already built the Falcon rocket and the Dragon capsule)
2) Orbital Science Corp., Dulles, VA
NASA on Tuesday detailed $50 million worth of seed grants for development of a space taxi to the following 5 companies.
3) Blue Origin, Kent, WA (run by Jeff Bezos of Amazon, has only talked about it)
4) Boeing Co., Houston, TX
5) Paragon Space Development Co., Tucson, AZ
6) Sierra Nevada Corp., Sparks, NV
7) United Launch Alliance, Denver, CO (President Mike Gass, has already builty Atlas and Delta rockets)
United Launch Alliance got $6.7 million to upgrade the firm's Atlas and Delta rockets for safety to carry people instead of just cargo.
Blue Origin received $3.7 million from NASA to work on a new type of launch escape system for a crew.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-02-02-20-58-19
NASA is going back to its 1959-60 roots, when it did more research and development than engineering. NASA hopes there will be multiple spaceships. There may be a couple more companies competing than the following 7.
A year ago, the space agency gave $3.5 billion in contracts to the following 2 companies for 20 cargo flights to the space station. Both companies will also develop crew taxis to the space station. SpaceX says they could fly astronauts within 3 years of a final contract for $20 million a head, less than half the price NASA pays for Soyuz.
1) SpaceX, Hawthorne, CA, (run by Elon Musk of PayPal, has already built the Falcon rocket and the Dragon capsule)
2) Orbital Science Corp., Dulles, VA
NASA on Tuesday detailed $50 million worth of seed grants for development of a space taxi to the following 5 companies.
3) Blue Origin, Kent, WA (run by Jeff Bezos of Amazon, has only talked about it)
4) Boeing Co., Houston, TX
5) Paragon Space Development Co., Tucson, AZ
6) Sierra Nevada Corp., Sparks, NV
7) United Launch Alliance, Denver, CO (President Mike Gass, has already builty Atlas and Delta rockets)
United Launch Alliance got $6.7 million to upgrade the firm's Atlas and Delta rockets for safety to carry people instead of just cargo.
Blue Origin received $3.7 million from NASA to work on a new type of launch escape system for a crew.