"Protector" of girls & women kept 13 year old girl chained in home

[crandc]

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/05/anti-trans-target-protestor-arrested-shackling-girl-basement/

A man who protested Target stores telling customers they could use the restroom most appropriate to their gender (which people have been doing for years without problems until bigots decided they needed a solution without a problem) kept a 13 year old girl chained in his home. Without bathroom access.

Police arrested Esten Ciboro and his father. The girl is Ciboro's stepsister. He had ranted about Target's "queerism" endangering girls and women by allowing transwomen to, you know, pee.

The girl was given a bucket of ammonia for a toilet and fed scraps of spoiled food. She had not been to school since first grade.

She got hold of a spare key and unlocked her leg irons, escaping and going to police.

Ciboro said "I miss my babies with all my heart. I want them to do right. That’s the way they were raised. If they have any questions, all they have to do is open the Bible and they will have all the answers.” I have little to add to that.

Yes, the Bible clearly says chain girls up.
Oh yes, he's a vocal Trump supporter.

Sure, there are psychos everywhere but I have yet to hear of a gay couple chaining a child without food, toilet or educational facilities because Jesus said to. And transwomen are not chaining girls in public restrooms.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Didn't we just hear about a gay muslim killing 50 gay people?

Can we say people with names that sound foreign are mostly the problem or is it just anyone who says Jesus. He sure looks like a cracker but that name???

 

[julius]

Didn't we just hear about a gay muslim killing 50 gay people?

Can we say people with names that sound foreign are mostly the problem or is it just anyone who says Jesus. He sure looks like a cracker but that name???

I think most of the guys who have done the mass shootings haven't been muslim, but white christians.

Also, I suspect anyone who is over the top about gays or molesters. Guilty conscience.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Lol, i knew this gay shooting would spin into christian hating. Its the current media agenda. Go ahead and kill us all if thats what will make you happy.

 

[julius]

Lol, i knew this gay shooting would spin into christian hating. Its the current media agenda. Go ahead and kill us all if thats what will make you happy.

must be nice to be able to play the victim card at a moments notice.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

must be nice to be able to play the victim card at a moments notice.

Victim? Not yet. But the bible does tell us there will be many of us beheaded for the faith, and im perfectly comfortable with that. We all die sometime, why not go out like a boss?

The victim in this case is the poor girl, not me. I just find it fascinating people blame christianity. Nearly 50% of the world claims to he christian, how many keep child slaves in their basement?

People like to let 1 person represent a whole group. Its called stereotyping. It's something that needs to stop but wont. Not all blacks smoke crack, not all gays are pedos and have aids, not all muslims intepret jihad as killing infidels, not all christians keep slaves and want to kill gays.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I think most of the guys who have done the mass shootings haven't been muslim, but white christians.

Also, I suspect anyone who is over the top about gays or molesters. Guilty conscience.

Very few people seem to see the hypocrisy that I'm trying to point out. I guess I'm going about it the wrong way. Her clear and always present hatred of white Christian males seems to go unchecked at every point.

I don't much care for Christians myself. It doesn't make them the only evil in this world. My sister is gay and I've long ago accepted it. I honestly told crandc I felt sorry for how her community has been treated over the years. That I don't accept all her bullshit meant I was Costanza'd.

I could say something like "I know there are psychos everywhere but I don't recall seeing a white group of kids beating up a security guard at a casino" and I would be the most racist piece of shit to ever grace this board.

The fact that nobody calls out this stuff is not surprising on a board full of Portlanders. A larger groupthink hive mentality I've yet to come across.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

There are a lot of psychos in this world, and what ever they use as their excuse to justify their insane behavior, they shouldnt represent a majority of any belief.

Very few people seem to see the hypocrisy that I'm trying to point out. I guess I'm going about it the wrong way. Her clear and always present hatred of white Christian males seems to go unchecked at every point.

I don't much care for Christians myself. It doesn't make them the only evil in this world. My sister is gay and I've long ago accepted it. I honestly told crandc I felt sorry for how her community has been treated over the years. That I don't accept all her bullshit meant I was Costanza'd.

I could say something like "I know there are psychos everywhere but I don't recall seeing a white group of kids beating up a security guard at a casino" and I would be the most racist piece of shit to ever grace this board.

The fact that nobody calls out this stuff is not surprising on a board full of Portlanders. A larger groupthink hive mentality I've yet to come across.

You said it better than me. The only reason i go over the top, is to call out the hypocritical bull shit in a humorous way.

Cant blame you for not liking christians btw. Even though i am one, i havent met many who claim to be one that i like either.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Very few people seem to see the hypocrisy that I'm trying to point out. I guess I'm going about it the wrong way. Her clear and always present hatred of white Christian males seems to go unchecked at every point.

I don't much care for Christians myself. It doesn't make them the only evil in this world. My sister is gay and I've long ago accepted it. I honestly told crandc I felt sorry for how her community has been treated over the years. That I don't accept all her bullshit meant I was Costanza'd.

I could say something like "I know there are psychos everywhere but I don't recall seeing a white group of kids beating up a security guard at a casino" and I would be the most racist piece of shit to ever grace this board.

The fact that nobody calls out this stuff is not surprising on a board full of Portlanders. A larger groupthink hive mentality I've yet to come across.

Its gotten to the point where its not worth it to speak up. All they do is throw the bigot word around even if you arent trying to do anything other than pointing out hypocrisy in their statements or that they are making stereotypes.

I get it, i dont like uber christians either. But a black christian, or gay christian, or latino christian can have the same bullshit and idiotness as a white christian.
Its really sad.

 

[crandc]

It is not hating Christians to point out the FACT that this creep used the Bible to justify both his hating gay/trans people AND chaining a little girl.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

It is not hating Christians to point out the FACT that this creep used the Bible to justify both his hating gay/trans people AND chaining a little girl.

And hes an idiot. People use religion the wrong way all the time. Just like terrorists doing things in the name of islam. They are idiots and are not practicing as they should be.

Westboro baptist church says they are christian and they are morons.

That does not mean that all christians are bad though. There are a lot of gay people that attend church and the church accepts them with open arms without judgement. Thats the way it should be.

 

[Mediocre Man]

It is not hating Christians to point out the FACT that this creep used the Bible to justify both his hating gay/trans people AND chaining a little girl.

Maybe we can all just agree that it's the fanatics that are the problem, and not the religions?

How many serial killers or rapists have been athiest, agnostic or devil worshipers? Certainly not all of them, and those people are just fine

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

It is not hating Christians to point out the FACT that this creep used the Bible to justify both his hating gay/trans people AND chaining a little girl.

Is it a FACT that black people are more violent than white people?

 

[e_blazer]

It is not hating Christians to point out the FACT that this creep used the Bible to justify both his hating gay/trans people AND chaining a little girl.

It's not hating, but it's an argument that misses the point, IMHO. The terrorists in France and, probably the Orlando killer, used the perverted Islamic teachings of ISIS to justify their actions. Fanatics everywhere find something to hang their hate on and justify their actions.

 

[crandc]

I'm just saying the irony that this moron threw a fit over transwomen (who do not attack cis girls and women) in the name of protecting girls and women. While chaining a girl up. That was my main point. He was the one who brought up bible.

Girls need protection from perverts like him, not transgender women.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'm just saying the irony that this moron threw a fit over transwomen (who do not attack cis girls and women) in the name of protecting girls and women. While chaining a girl up. That was my main point. He was the one who brought up bible.

Girls need protection from perverts like him, not transgender women.

In Transparent, Jeffrey Tambor went to a women's festival of some sort and the women born women didn't want his character there.

Was that a bogus scene that would never happen?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I'm just saying the irony that this moron threw a fit over transwomen (who do not attack cis girls and women) in the name of protecting girls and women. While chaining a girl up. That was my main point. He was the one who brought up bible.

Girls need protection from perverts like him, not transgender women.

Some may.

Are you sure 100% of transgender women aren't perverts? That's a pretty bold statement. Completely baseless also

 

[rasheedfan2005]

It is not hating Christians to point out the FACT that this creep used the Bible to justify both his hating gay/trans people AND chaining a little girl.

Yes you can use any holy book incorrectly to justify anything. Look at your muslim friend that killed all of your people. If you ask a peaceful muslim what jihad is its supposed to be destroying the bad things inside you to become a better person. Much like a peaceful christian applies the bible to their own lives to be a better person. But some people use it to justify insanity.