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chris_in_pdx said:
Yeah? Tell me the last time a small market team landed a top 10 NBA player in their prime through free agency or trade. I'll wait.
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likely because the big market teams are willing to take a risk small market teams are not.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Meh.

I'm not worried. They'll be good but their window is obviously short with the age of Nash and Kobe.

Kudos to their GM for making big moves though. Hopefully Neil will have the guts of Mitch in the future.
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What guts? He didn't take any chances? He was handed the best center in the world for a player they wanted to get rid of. Bynum has talent, but he is not smart or a team player. The Lakers gave up very little IMO. I doubt very much that they wanted to sign him to another big contract.
What a fucking steal.
 
And you know you're going to see it and hear it to no freaking end.

Portland has the most L.A. transplants than any other city on the west coast.
 
RR7 said:
likely because the big market teams are willing to take a risk small market teams are not.
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More like the big market teams can take a risk because LA has a 50/50 shot of convincing DHo to stay and Portland/Milwaukee/Minnesota have a 0% shot of anything beyond a 1 year rental. This is the kind of shit that made me cancel my season tickets.

What makes this hurt even more is when things finally go our way and we have the chance to build something great we get decimated by injuries. When was the last time LA lost a season or a future to injuries. Makes you kind of feel like even God is against the small markets some times.
 
donkiez said:
More like the big market teams can take a risk because LA has a 50/50 shot of convincing DHo to stay and Portland/Milwaukee/Minnesota have a 0% shot of anything beyond a 1 year rental. .
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I agree they can take the risk a little more easily. but a small market team can still take the risk if they wanted to. The initial comment was about them not having the balls to do it. It'd take balls to do it, and none seem to. Chris disagrees that it's about balls, but if a small market team had the balls to make that big splash, it'd happen. Look at the mopst recent trades, other than this shittastic deal for orlando, and the big market teams gave up solid value for the pieces. NJ gave a ton for Deron. LAC gave a good package for Paul. NY gave a good package for Carmelo. It's not like they're being handed players. Whatever. People are going to whine, call it fixed, whatever.
 
This shit from LA writers makes me want to fucking vomit.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/32364/rapid-reaction-lakers-land-dwight-howard

The Lakers deserve it. The transformation of this team over the past couple of months has been nothing short of stunning. The Lakers have gone from a team hoping to somehow remain relevant in the final stretch of Kobe's career to a true title contender and potentially one of the most entertaining teams the franchise has ever produced. That's no small statement. They have acquired among the greatest point guards in league history and now their next superstar. This while keeping everything but the one piece (Bynum) that became totally redundant with the arrival of Howard.

The circumstances under which they are operating have never been tougher, but once again, the Lakers got it done.

Because that's what they do.
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chris_in_pdx said:
Bullshit. Show me ONE TIME... ONE FUCKING TIME it's happened. You can't. Because it hasn't.
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wouldn't that show they don't have the balls to do it, then? Clearly, they don't have the balls to risk a guy walking. Otherwise, there owuld be one, no?
 
My only friend that's a Laker fan doesn't like the trade.. He really liked Bynum.

Lakers just traded for Dwight Howard with out a contract extension, good job you got rid of Bynum a All star you could have had for 5 years. Really Lakers?
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Why do ppl continue to think that Mitch keeps getting lucky or is capable of pulling off deals. Any of us could be laker gm and dh would be on the la roster tonight. The league wants la relevant...it is business...this is 100 percent league office manipulation. Nba fans continue to be suckers buying the hype and calling it mystery. How many more freaking examples do some of you need? I don't know how it could it be more obvious?
 
TP3 said:
Why do ppl continue to think that Mitch keeps getting lucky or is capable of pulling off deals. Any of us could be laker gm and dh would be on the la roster tonight. The league wants la relevant...it is business...this is 100 percent league office manipulation. Nba fans continue to be suckers buying the hype and calling it mystery. How many more freaking examples do some of you need? I don't know how it could it be more obvious?
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...precisely, I'd love to read a compelling argument why any one of the Nets 5,000 offers were not as good as this one? Unbeknownst to the rest of us, Orlando must be pulling a Romney/Federal Reserve by getting a shit load of cash funneled to an off-shore account for accepted such a terrible trade. How else can they justify this?! Really, they replaced Dwight Fucking Howard with Nikola Vucevic...really?! And 3 "protected" first round picks from teams outside of the lottery, really?...whoopdy fucking doo!
 
The Magic continue to be a farm team for the Lakers.

Unbelievable.

So where does Kevin Durant end up at the end of this contract?
 
The stench of commercialism coming from this trade is seriously bumming my excitement going forward. . .yet we all knew this was coming -
Fuck the Lakers and their 'tail(Lakers) wagging the dog(NBA)' ways
 
Lakers will always reload no matter what, even when Kobe retires, they'll find a way. Still don't understand how the Magic waited for this offer, rather than the Nets' reported offer.
 
The writing was on the wall back in the early 2000s when the Nets/Spurs Finals were some of the lowest viewed in the history of the league. I think the league realized that they needed an LA, Miami, or NY with the stars to go with it. They needed a Durant/LeBron matchup to pull big numbers.

We're screwed. We should seriously just pack it up
 
History keeps repeating.

When the Lakers got Jabbar, a Seattle letter to the editor that I read despaired, "The Lakers are SO lucky..."

And before that they stole Chamberlain from Philadelphia. Stars will accept trades to Los Angeles, when they wouldn't to smaller markets lacking Hollywood glitz.

This won't be the last time the Lakers get an undeserved star. It will continue as long as this league lasts.
 
jlprk said:
History keeps repeating.

When the Lakers got Jabbar, a Seattle letter to the editor that I read despaired, "The Lakers are SO lucky..."

And before that they stole Chamberlain from Philadelphia. Stars will accept trades to Los Angeles, when they wouldn't to smaller markets lacking Hollywood glitz.

This won't be the last time the Lakers get an undeserved star. It will continue as long as this league lasts.
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Yeah, this is just history repeating itself. This is nothing new for the Lakers.

The most egregious example of the Lakers "star stealing" was the Pau Gasol trade. I know his play has fallen off recently, but when the Lakers got him, he was arguably the best four in the league. Essentially, the Grizzlies were cash strapped at the time, and with the whole Jerry West connection, Grizz management just so happened to cash dump the only All-Star in franchise history to the Lakers, with the only compensation being Kwame Brown's expiring contract.

Nowadays, people point out that the Grizzlies got Marc Gasol in that exchange, but as someone who grew up in Memphis playing basketball, Marc Gasol was a joke at that time. His physical transformation was really unforseen. Back in the day, you could just run up and down the court a few times and tire him out. His inclusion was merely a formality and a throw-in for the Gasol family that had multiple residences in Memphis at the time and didn't want to uproot.

Imagine it being akin to the Blazers randomly trading LaMarcus Aldridge for Tiago Splitter and the rights to some prospects.

It made no sense at the time and ultimately just handed the Lakers two rings.
 
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Multiple residences. They didn't have to sell those houses. I hadn't heard that.
 
This isn't a big shocker. When have the Lakers not had a great player? For a quick minute in the mid-90's?

The Lakers get ratings, superstars generate better ratings. Lakers being relevant = NBA thriving.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
You know bitching about this only makes Laker fans gleeful.
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Who cares? The Lakers fans SHOULD be gleeful. I wish to hell I that I had a team like the Lakers to root for. Laker fans can rest assured that top players will always want to come to LA, while Portland fans can rest assured that their team will always get passed over. How many times does it have to happen before we realize the trend???
 
jlprk said:
History keeps repeating.

When the Lakers got Jabbar, a Seattle letter to the editor that I read despaired, "The Lakers are SO lucky..."

And before that they stole Chamberlain from Philadelphia. Stars will accept trades to Los Angeles, when they wouldn't to smaller markets lacking Hollywood glitz.

This won't be the last time the Lakers get an undeserved star. It will continue as long as this league lasts.
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100% correct. That's what makes this whole thing so horribly, horribly unfair for fans like us. For the first time in my life (and a very long career as a Blazer fan), I'm seriously thinking of saying goodbye to the NBA. I probably won't, because my Blazer loyalty is so deeply ingrained, but I honestly don't see this team ever winning a championship again. Lillard will put in a few years here, become an All-Star, and then flee to the Lakers or the Heat or the Knicks to get his title. Teams like Portland will, as one other poster put it, just be farm teams for the big market teams.
 
Yeh, I'm a little confused (and I see Hollinger has something on Insider about "headscratcher"). Why did Orlando previously (in July) turn down four unprotected first rounders plus Brook Lopez and now they take three protected picks plus Aaron Affalo?
 
As someone said on Twitter:

"Just heard that Orlando received the draft rights to Marc Gasol in the trade. It all makes sense now."

What is particularly stunning about this is how monumentally shitty this trade was for Orlando. And shittier than other trades they were actually offered. Where is Daryl Morey? Everything he did this offseason was dedicated to landing Howard - why'd he crap out at the finish? He could've offered better, surely. Wasn't even the Nets' offer better than this?

I'm clinging to the hope that Howard's back-surgery has affected him much worse than we know. Petty? Small-minded? Guilty as charged.

I sort of want to hope that Howard bails on the Lakers because they're all geriatric apart from him, but he's got to know that they can reload any time they want. And he's such an addle-headed halfwit that they can probably dupe him into an extension no problem.
 
Chris, I also have a memory.

I remember when the Lakers added Gary Payton and Karl Malone to a team with Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal and a damn good supporting cast and they had their names written on the championship trophy before the preseason began. Remember? A funny thing happened on the way to the coronation. They lost to scruffy scrappy star-less Detroit.

I agree with Nik. Bryant and Nash are in the twilight of their careers, Howard has had injury issues and already said he won't sign an extension.

They will be good, sure, ahd they'll be playing 8 on 5 as always, but I'm not ready to write off the entire season, let alone the next 5 years.
 
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