Pure Laker Hate

[Sedatedfork]

It must be nice to have things handed to you. Still, I won't ne surprised if it doesn't work out.

 

[MARIS61]

Kudos to their GM for making big moves though.

This.

Paul Allen could buy every player, coach, manager and even the owner of the Rapers and have them work as his house boys and yacht crew, but he'd rather hire trainees and scrubs for his team because they will never disagree with his basketball "wisdom".

Every successful jockey knows you have to loosen up on the reins and let your horse run to win the race.

 

[jwhoops11]

I'm in the minority I know, but Howard for Bynum is a loss in my book for the Lakers. Don't get me wrong, Howard is a tremedous defensive presence and will help the Lakers greatly with his rebounding and shot blocking. But Offensively, the guy has some glaring holes. He has a very limited back to the basket post game and his horrible free throw shooting allows him to be a liability late in the game. Bynum on the other end, was an above average defensive player, and a very skilled offensive player and getting better.

Ultimately, I feel like Howard has kind of reached his potential, while Bynum continues to improve year after year. Not to mention Howard's back injury. We all remember pre-back surgery Rudy, and post-back surgery Rudy. Anyone who's ever had a back surgery knows, that those are a 50/50 proposition to be effective in relieving the pain. Part of the reason it's so hard on athletes, is the constant jumping up and down crunches your spine together, over working those discs. What is rarely discussed is the fact that in every human being there is a degenerative process your discs go through, this is the reason as we age we begin slumping over and not walking as straight. This process usually begins in our early 40's, however the day you opperate on a disc, the process begins., no matter what your age is.

I know this may be grassping at straws, and Howard may very well come back 100% and be as imposing as before. That being said, after living through a severe back injury and knowing the pain I live with on a daily basis, I wouldn't expect any player who's had to have back surgery to come back as good as before. It just doesn't work that way, your body just won't bend and be as flexible as you were before.

 

[BBert]

I've had it. First the Lakers get Steve Nash, and now they land Dwight Howard. Are you kidding me? Why the hell should the rest of the NBA teams even show up this year? I say everybody should stage a boycott and refuse to play.

I've never said this before, but I'm actually hoping that something bad happens to the Lakers this year. Screw karma. I want to see Howard or Bryant or somebody get injured. I'm sick and tired of Portland having all the bad luck. I'm sick and tired of the small market teams struggling along year after year, trying to fool themselves into thinking they actually have a chance to win an NBA title.

This is a rigged game, and the Lakers and the Heat and the Knicks will continue to get the best players every year. I'm so pissed right now. I could actually walk away from being an NBA fan tonight.

Not that I'm the only one who thought so, but as I have said, Howard to the Lakers was as certain as death and taxes. We all knew it was inevitable.

If it weren't for the Blazers, I wouldn't watch this farce. Maybe it would be merciful if Allen did move the team after all, so I could move on with my life.

 

[BBert]

Kudos to their GM for making big moves though. Hopefully Neil will have the guts of Mitch in the future.

I also hope Olshey has the guts for a player like Dwight Howard to force his way to the Blazers.

 

[BBert]

This. We are not hurt by this. This isn't our window. I feel bad for OKC. This is their window and they can't compete with this.

I agree we are not hurt by this *this year*. The point is, I think, that the Lakers don't have "windows". When the Lakers aren't getting sweetheart deals, they are having players like Shaq and Kobe and Howard force their way to play there. It will never end.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

I remember when the Lakers added Gary Payton and Karl Malone to a team with Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal and a damn good supporting cast and they had their names written on the championship trophy before the preseason began. Remember? A funny thing happened on the way to the coronation. They lost to scruffy scrappy star-less Detroit.

One data point against out of dozens for. This means nothing.

 

[BBert]

Oh, yes, this move was all about the Laker GM having guts. Yes, Milwaukee's GM or Sacramento's GM or Portland's GM could have landed Howard if they only had enough gumption and grit.

Are you fucking insane?

Ha, Ha. Made me laugh.

It's OK, for now. We are in developmental mode. We ought to be able to compete with them within three years. We will never be able to compete with them for superstars though. If we can get the right players with the right chemistry at the right time, we have a shot. God, I'm such a hopeless romantic. And by hopeless, I mean without any real hope.

 

[blue32]

I've had it. First the Lakers get Steve Nash, and now they land Dwight Howard. Are you kidding me? Why the hell should the rest of the NBA teams even show up this year? I say everybody should stage a boycott and refuse to play.

I've never said this before, but I'm actually hoping that something bad happens to the Lakers this year. Screw karma. I want to see Howard or Bryant or somebody get injured. I'm sick and tired of Portland having all the bad luck. I'm sick and tired of the small market teams struggling along year after year, trying to fool themselves into thinking they actually have a chance to win an NBA title.

This is a rigged game, and the Lakers and the Heat and the Knicks will continue to get the best players every year. I'm so pissed right now. I could actually walk away from being an NBA fan tonight.

LOL- so wait, what about the Heat w/ D-wade Lebron and Bosh?
or
Celtics with KG, PP, Rondo and (formerly) Allen??


It was the same thing back then....I dont see how Lakers makes it worse....than those teams....

I mean; they are spending 34 million in tax for their players, so I suppose we could do that but then you'd bitch about the blazers not being financially responsible...

Its their team, who fucking cares what they do. Just like Miami, and Boston, it'll make everyone else aspire to beat them....

 

[BBert]

Portland probably could have landed him if we parted with both lotto picks, since it's better than anything else they got offered. Sacramento could have offered up Cousins and a lotto pick if tey wanted to. Miwaukee's GM sucks. not gonna bother

Sure, we could have gutted our team, traded Aldridge and our future. The minute his contract is up, he would have bolted to....Los Angeles. Bad move.

 

[RR7]

Sure, we could have gutted our team, traded Aldridge and our future. The minute his contract is up, he would have bolted to....Los Angeles. Bad move.

So taking a risk is a bad move. Ok. But then don't cry when we don't land him, or another team doesn't land him by not taking the risk. He could bolt us. Or not. He could also bolt the Lakers. Probably not. They're willing to take that risk. You aren't. But you cry when another team does take the risk and it works out. That's just stupid.

 

[BBert]

likely because the big market teams are willing to take a risk small market teams are not.

This I think is where shooter and chris and I are of a different opinion. Speaking only for myself, my perception is that it would be a HUGE risk for a small market team (Portland, Milwaukee, etc) to trade for a player who openly will only play for one or two 'elite' big market franchises, and will clearly leave town at the first opportunity (hence why Howard is being traded in the first, second and third place). And not just a 'risk'. More like suicide. Whereas, conversely, and on the other hand, it is literally NO risk for the team he WANTS to play for (LAL, Nyets, etc) to trade for him.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

It's well documented on this board and others that there's very few people that hate the Lakers as much as I do. I've gone into monologues and rants regarding this topic many times, so I won't repeat myself. What I've recently discovered, though, is that it's not the Lakers themselves that I hate, but the flawed system of haves and have-nots in the NBA. It's been this way since the 1960s, when the Celtics and the Lakers were pretty much the only two teams that mattered in a much smaller NBA. Today, with a larger league, the number of blessed teams is slightly larger, but the bias towards them couldn't be more nakedly obvious. Yes, every so often a team not in the chosen few strikes gold through the draft or through shrewd front office maneuvers, but this is the exception rather than the norm. A good underdog story makes for entertaining theater, but only for so long.

Madison Avenue and the advertising corporations dictate the NBA and it's fortunes off AND ON the court. And we enable this by continuing to buy tickets to root for teams that have no real chance in the system, and buy the products that perpetuate the cycle.

I know that most of you don't give a shit about this... you just want to root for the Blazers (laundry), and when the game is over, go back to whatever else you were doing. You treat games like watching a sitcom or a movie. You are entertained, and then that's that. I envy people like that. I really do.

 

[BBert]

And you know you're going to see it and hear it to no freaking end.

Portland has the most L.A. transplants than any other city on the west coast.

This, for me, may be the top reason I hate the Lakers so much. I can't stand their douchebag fans. Unbearable.

 

[BBert]

This shit from LA writers makes me want to fucking vomit.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/...-dwight-howard

The Lakers deserve it. The transformation of this team over the past couple of months has been nothing short of stunning. The Lakers have gone from a team hoping to somehow remain relevant in the final stretch of Kobe's career to a true title contender and potentially one of the most entertaining teams the franchise has ever produced. That's no small statement. They have acquired among the greatest point guards in league history and now their next superstar. This while keeping everything but the one piece (Bynum) that became totally redundant with the arrival of Howard.

The circumstances under which they are operating have never been tougher, but once again, the Lakers got it done.

Because that's what they do.

Holy fucking shit. Until this moment, I simply felt fatalistic about it. Now I'm doing a real burn. They fucking deserve it? Are you fucking kidding me? This sense of entitlement is what really pisses me off about these Laker fan fucks.

 

[Shooter]

I'm in the minority I know, but Howard for Bynum is a loss in my book for the Lakers. Don't get me wrong, Howard is a tremedous defensive presence and will help the Lakers greatly with his rebounding and shot blocking. But Offensively, the guy has some glaring holes. He has a very limited back to the basket post game and his horrible free throw shooting allows him to be a liability late in the game. Bynum on the other end, was an above average defensive player, and a very skilled offensive player and getting better.

Ultimately, I feel like Howard has kind of reached his potential, while Bynum continues to improve year after year. Not to mention Howard's back injury. We all remember pre-back surgery Rudy, and post-back surgery Rudy. Anyone who's ever had a back surgery knows, that those are a 50/50 proposition to be effective in relieving the pain. Part of the reason it's so hard on athletes, is the constant jumping up and down crunches your spine together, over working those discs. What is rarely discussed is the fact that in every human being there is a degenerative process your discs go through, this is the reason as we age we begin slumping over and not walking as straight. This process usually begins in our early 40's, however the day you opperate on a disc, the process begins., no matter what your age is.

I know this may be grassping at straws, and Howard may very well come back 100% and be as imposing as before. That being said, after living through a severe back injury and knowing the pain I live with on a daily basis, I wouldn't expect any player who's had to have back surgery to come back as good as before. It just doesn't work that way, your body just won't bend and be as flexible as you were before.

I understand what you're saying, but you're missing the point. Whether or not Howard works out this year for the Lakers, they are the team that got him!! Portland was never even in the running. Neither was Sacramento, or Memphis, or Atlanta, or Minnesota. Every team in the league would be willing to take a chance on Howard, even with the back issues, but it was the freaking Lakers who ended up with him. They always end up with great players because the great players want to play in the limelight of Hollywood. And if Howard doesn't work out, they will replace him with some other great player, because all the great players want to go to LA, or Miami, or New York.

 

[RR7]

I understand what you're saying, but you're missing the point. Whether or not Howard works out this year for the Lakers, they are the team that got him!! Portland was never even in the running. Neither was Sacramento, or Memphis, or Atlanta, or Minnesota. Every team in the league would be willing to take a chance on Howard, even with the back issues, but it was the freaking Lakers who ended up with him. They always end up with great players because the great players want to play in the limelight of Hollywood. And if Howard doesn't work out, they will replace him with some other great player, because all the great players want to go to LA, or Miami, or New York.

No other team was willing, don't give me that bull shit.

 

[donkiez]

Chris, I also have a memory.

I remember when the Lakers added Gary Payton and Karl Malone to a team with Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal and a damn good supporting cast and they had their names written on the championship trophy before the preseason began. Remember? A funny thing happened on the way to the coronation. They lost to scruffy scrappy star-less Detroit.

I agree with Nik. Bryant and Nash are in the twilight of their careers, Howard has had injury issues and already said he won't sign an extension.

They will be good, sure, ahd they'll be playing 8 on 5 as always, but I'm not ready to write off the entire season, let alone the next 5 years.

Im not sure why people keep bringing up the GP, Malone, Shaq, Kobe title failure as a point against LA's one sidedness. That team made it to the NBA finals even though they didnt win a ring they had a very very sucessfuly season. Their implosion in the finals is a minor point as in sports nothing is guaranteed, even the bobcats win a game now and then. In the history of the Blazers we look at our teams that went to the WCF and NBA finals as some of the best teams in our history, getting to the second round is big news for us.

 

[Wheels]

lolz... that is all

 

[HailBlazers]

Every team improved in this trade except Orlando, really makes you wonder

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I hate Pau Gasol! Watching him in the olympics makes it worse.

 

[BBert]

So taking a risk is a bad move. Ok. But then don't cry when we don't land him, or another team doesn't land him by not taking the risk. He could bolt us. Or not. He could also bolt the Lakers. Probably not. They're willing to take that risk. You aren't. But you cry when another team does take the risk and it works out. That's just stupid.

Suicide is a bad move. And that other team isn't taking a risk.

We seem to disagree on both points. It's ok.

 

[Minstrel]

Pretty impressive off-season for LA. They should be a fun team to watch this season, once Nash and Bryant figure out how to resolve their ball-dominant games.

 

[blue32]

Typical portlanders....jesus christ you people... if you all fucking hate it so much, stop watching the NBA, stop giving them your money and actually practise what you preach on here.

but..................... you fucking wont, because, you all like basketball and the NBA regardless.

They are a business; the NBA, and the Lakers, and they have the money to make things happen to put them in a position to make MORE money. It's the way this country works. America is not fair, life is not fair. deal-with-it.

for fucks sake.....

And i fucking hate the lakers, not because they pulled these trades, but because they are the blazers rival.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I hate the L*kers because their fans are shit talking dickweeds.

fans with a bottom 5 basketball IQ in the league for sure, yet they win all the time because its the big city, big dream.

 

[Minstrel]

I hate the L*kers because their fans are shit talking dickweeds.

fans with a bottom 5 basketball IQ in the league for sure, yet they win all the time because its the big city, big dream.

Yeah, I used to think I disliked the Lakers and Yankees. I realized that I just disliked a large segment of their fanbases that confused Laker/Yankee achievement with their own achievement.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

i mean my fucking facebook wall was full of this:

FORGET THE REST. THE LAKERS WILL BE THE BEST. DWIGHT HOWARD IS GOING TO THE LAKERS!!!!!! ALL YOU HATERS CAN EAT IT.

Alert: A lot of OKC and Miami bandwagons suddenly became a Lakers for life fan after they found out D12 will be playing for the Lakers Dream team. Bryant, Nash, World Peace, Gasol, Howard, Jamison. Its all good guys we don't hate! HAHAHA!

etc etc etc.

last night.

 

[Shooter]

Typical portlanders....jesus christ you people... if you all fucking hate it so much, stop watching the NBA, stop giving them your money and actually practise what you preach on here.

You think it's just "Portlanders" who are upset by this deal?? You don't think fans in Sacramento and Memphis and Minnesota can see what's going on, too? When the best players in the league keep showing up in L.A. and New York and Miami, it's unfair for everybody else. There's a balance of power issue here, and it affects most of the fans in the NBA.

 

[Wheels]

I hate the L*kers because their fans are shit talking dickweeds.

fans with a bottom 5 basketball IQ in the league for sure, yet they win all the time because its the big city, big dream.

Def how I feel... Obviously not every fan of theirs... but a good portion of my dislike for them is because of their fans.

 

[noknobs]

The package Orlando would have recieved from Brooklyn was waaaay better.... this really is a joke. The only saving grace is that only one of Miami/LA/OKC can win it next year, so two of them will fail.

The rest of the teams can take the year off.