Purely hypothetical FA philosophy

[Mediocre Man]

Don't get into money, or if so and so would come here, just a simple question.

Which would be better for our team, next year and going forward

Dwight Howard

or

Samuel Dalembert
Tyreke Evans

 

[Natebishop3]

Don't get into money, or if so and so would come here, just a simple question.

Which would be better for our team, next year and going forward

Dwight Howard

or

Samuel Dalembert
Tyreke Evans

It all depends on Howard's health, but D12 is a legitimate superstar. He would instantly change the face of the franchise. If you put him with Aldridge, Batum, and Dame.... that's a championship caliber team if you get the right bench guys.

 

[magnifier661]

Don't get into money, or if so and so would come here, just a simple question.

Which would be better for our team, next year and going forward

Dwight Howard

or

Samuel Dalembert
Tyreke Evans

Howard

 

[Natebishop3]

Howard

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but a lot of it depends on his health.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Not Howard; total prima donna, not serious about actually working, will hate it here, will turn players against each other, and demand a trade. Also back injury.

 

[HailBlazers]

Dwight Howard

or

Samuel Dalembert
Tyreke Evans

That would be a Dream. Take or leave Dwight.

 

[GoBlazersGo]

All things being equal, I'd easily take Howard given the two choices... that said, they're not equal due to the Dwight's continuing recovery from nerve damage & the amount of money that he'll certainly get on the open-market.

 

[magnifier661]

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but a lot of it depends on his health.

Well I was using the "purely hypothetical" factor on your title. I hypothetically assume that Howard is at full strength and we are just talking purely talent vs. talent with our current talent.

 

[Natebishop3]

Not Howard; total prima donna, not serious about actually working, will hate it here, will turn players against each other, and demand a trade. Also back injury.

Yes he is, but he's already taken one team to the Finals. Most superstars are prima donna's, with the exception of maybe Durant. Dude seems like a genuinely nice guy. If he willingly signs here, you take him. You have to.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I don't think Howard is as injured as is portrayed. Just an excuse for how bad the Lakers are playing. So yeah I would take Howard in a heart beat. He will be fine

 

[BBert]

The hypothetical Howard who is healthy, a good teammate, wants to play in Portland, and is a mature adult who avoids drama, would be my choice.

The hypothetical Howard who fits in so well in La La Land, with the bad back, we would be way better off with Dalembert and Evans.

Based on my perceived risk factors re which Howard is the real one, I'll go with adding Dalembert and Evans to LaMarcus, Lillard, Batum and Matthews. That's a nice team.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

The hypothetical Howard who is healthy, a good teammate, wants to play in Portland, and is a mature adult who avoids drama, would be my choice.

The hypothetical Howard who fits in so well in La La Land, with the bad back, we would be way better off with Dalembert and Evans.

Based on my perceived risk factors re which Howard is the real one, I'll go with adding Dalembert and Evans to LaMarcus, Lillard, Batum and Matthews. That's a nice team.

Agreed entirely.

 

[Natebishop3]

Listen guys, I completely understand the hesitance, but this is a league built around superstars. We don't have one.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Listen guys, I completely understand the hesitance, but this is a league built around superstars. We don't have one.

I don't get it either. If for whatever reason you are able to land Dwight Howard, you do it. You S&T Aldridge and move forward if need be, The NBA isn't like MLB, where you can look at the money ball approach. Refs give superstars breaks, and having one is almost essential to winning in this league

 

[RR7]

Easily Howard. Our lineup with him is an immediate title contender.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I don't get it either. If for whatever reason you are able to land Dwight Howard, you do it. You S&T Aldridge and move forward if need be, The NBA isn't like MLB, where you can look at the money ball approach. Refs give superstars breaks, and having one is almost essential to winning in this league

Refs give superstars breaks, but Dwight still averages nearly 4 fouls a game, and hasn't shot even 50% from the line in two years (do you want Howard in there in crunch time?). He hasn't had a superstar WS/48 (> 0.200) in two years. His WS/48 is .128 this year; to give you a comparison, that's LMA territory (.122). His PER is under 20...

anyway...

I'm bearish on Howard because he's got tons of mileage, has suffered a back injury, and will be 28 next year. Never mind the talent, etc... think of Gerald Wallace by 28 years old. I really think Howard's best years are behind him.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Samuel Dalembert
Tyreke Evans

We need quantity of talent and not an oft-injured cancer.

 

[magnifier661]

Samuel Dalembert
Tyreke Evans

We need quantity of talent and not an oft-injured cancer.

oft injured? Who are you referring to?

 

[jlprk]

The Bucks suspended Dalembert for 1 game tonight.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Quality > Quantity

Easily Howard. Even if he is a shell of what he used to be.

 

[magnifier661]

The Bucks suspended Dalembert for 1 game tonight.

Yep you are on drugs.

 

[magnifier661]

The Bucks suspended Dalembert for 1 game tonight.

Yep you are on drugs.

 

[jlprk]

You wanna talk about higher dimensions?

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8992550

Larry Sanders took his starting job and he's unhappy.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

D12. Not even close IMO. We can only keep on stashing good solid talent..you need stars to get to that next level.

 

[magnifier661]

You wanna talk about higher dimensions?

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8992550

Larry Sanders took his starting job and he's unhappy.

That's a good sign! He may sign with Portland for even less.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Why the hell would we want Dalembert who is gonna be 32 and is on a steep decline ever since 07-08 season....

Edit: And dont give me his per 36 numbers. He plays the amount he plays because thats how the Bucks coaching staff evaluates him. Unless we sign him as a backup, hes a waste of money.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Don't get into money, or if so and so would come here, just a simple question.

Which would be better for our team, next year and going forward

Dwight Howard

or

Samuel Dalembert
Tyreke Evans

In the abstract, it sounds like you're asking if I'd rather have two "good" players or one "great" player. I'm a firm believer you need superstar talent to legitimately challenge for a title, so seen through that prism it would be Howard and it wouldn't be close really.

 

[magnifier661]

Why the hell would we want Dalembert who is gonna be 32 and is on a steep decline ever since 07-08 season....

Edit: And dont give me his per 36 numbers. He plays the amount he plays because thats how the Bucks coaching staff evaluates him. Unless we sign him as a backup, hes a waste of money.

Easy... It is pretty evident that Leonard can't start or is even ready to start for another 2 years. Dalembert is the type of player that can give you 20-25 minutes of good game play; which gives Leonard a good 20-25 minutes to develop his game. If Leonard actually progresses faster than we thought; moving Dalembert to the bench won't be a bad idea either. Basically, Dalembert will be the cushion needed for the development of Leonard.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Easy... It is pretty evident that Leonard can't start or is even ready to start for another 2 years. Dalembert is the type of player that can give you 20-25 minutes of good game play; which gives Leonard a good 20-25 minutes to develop his game. If Leonard actually progresses faster than we thought; moving Dalembert to the bench won't be a bad idea either. Basically, Dalembert will be the cushion needed for the development of Leonard.

I get that, but i really hope we dont overpay for someone like this, and when i say overpay, i mean more than like a 3 yr 13 mil contract

 

[magnifier661]

I get that, but i really hope we dont overpay for someone like this, and when i say overpay, i mean more than like a 3 yr 13 mil contract

Dalembert will be getting around 5-7 million per season. So it would be overpaying under your definition. I think it's not that bad for 20-25 minutes per of solid D and rebounding. McGee is getting 10 million for the same minutes and less production.