Put a bird on it at Bernie Sanders rally in Portland

[dviss1]

Holy shit, you're triggered. Typical DVISS response. Insult people, nice job.

FYI. I do make more than 108k a year, and by all accounts of reviews of Bernies tax plan online (CBS News, etc) my wife and I will be paying roughly 800 more a month in taxes, to support below:

Bernie's entire plan is centered around raising taxes on everyone. You have no idea where his money will come from, STET or not, it is no matter, because now I'm paying more to the "man" to help fund these socialist programs, all in the guise of helping your fellow man, heh , Riiighhht. Give the Govt an inch, they take a mile, and you people fall for that shit. Same reason why Schools always ask for more money on their bond measures (Get it via fear), yet continue to under-perform.

I love how you come across as matter of fact with your BS statements too yet use phrases like "almost certain your taxes wont be raised", and "I think you don't make more than 108K" and rattle off some crap.

Instead of assuming what other people have and do, focus on yourself. This is why people vote for Bernie, because they'd rather worry about other peoples successes, and how its unfair, than working hard themselves and making themselves better.

Telling you that you don't know what you're talking about isn't a personal insult. It's simply the truth. I would much rather have my taxes raised $500 a year so that I could eliminate My Health Care premium. That saves me almost $3,500 a year.

 

[blue32]

Telling you that you don't know what you're talking about isn't a personal insult. It's simply the truth. I would much rather have my taxes raised $500 a year so that I could eliminate My Health Care premium. That saves me almost $3,500 a year.

You crack me up. You tell everyone they "don't know what their talking about". It's just your natural bullshit self defense mechanism. You consider yourself right in almost every single argument on here; I say argument, because you leave nothing for a debate. It's take your position or "you are wrong" and then you result to insults. Pretty much exactly what you did here.

500 a year?

 

[dviss1]

You crack me up. You tell everyone they "don't know what their talking about". It's just your natural bullshit self defense mechanism. You consider yourself right in almost every single argument on here; I say argument, because you leave nothing for a debate. It's take your position or "you are wrong" and then you result to insults. Pretty much exactly what you did here.

500 a year?

What do people in Finland pay for their health care premium?

 

[blue32]

What do people in Finland pay for their health care premium?

LOL! Please, stop... let's just not even go there. USA and Finland (or insert Lib's flavor of the month here) are two completely separate beasts, with entirely different social, economic, and political situations. Trying to compare them for the sake of your position/argument is ludicrous and you should know why and should know better.

Edit:
http://prospect.org/article/false-lure-sanders-single-payer-plan
(Paul Starr is co-founder and co-editor of the The American Prospect. and professor of sociology and public affairs at Princeton University. A winner of the Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction and the Bancroft Prize in American history.)

 

[dviss1]

LOL! Please, stop... let's just not even go there. USA and Finland (or insert Lib's flavor of the month here) are two completely separate beasts, with entirely different social, economic, and political situations. Trying to compare them for the sake of your position/argument is ludicrous and you should know why and should know better.

Edit:
http://prospect.org/article/false-lure-sanders-single-payer-plan
(Paul Starr is co-founder and co-editor of the The American Prospect. and professor of sociology and public affairs at Princeton University. A winner of the Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction and the Bancroft Prize in American history.)

Same old Republican talking point. We are not Finland blah blah blah. That's right! We're fucking America! And America can do anything right? Well we can solve this Health Care crisis that leaves millions of people uninsured and underinsured can't we? Or do we just fucking let everybody die? If other countries can have health care as a right so can we. And news flash, even though it is more fiscally responsible to have single-payer, that's only the economic argument. There is a moral responsibility in my opinion.

 

[blue32]

Same old Republican talking point. We are not Finland blah blah blah. That's right! We're fucking America! And America can do anything right? Well we can solve this Health Care crisis that leaves millions of people uninsured and underinsured can't we? Or do we just fucking let everybody die? If other countries can have health care as a right so can we. And news flash, even though it is more fiscally responsible to have single-payer, that's only the economic argument. There is a moral responsibility in my opinion.

Try reading the article. And people were getting along just fine without Govt. issued healthcare. "let everybody die" LOL, smh. Putting more power in the Governments hands is not the way to go about running a free nation.

 

[dviss1]

Try reading the article. And people were getting along just fine without Govt. issued healthcare. "let everybody die" LOL, smh. Putting more power in the Governments hands is not the way to go about running a free nation.

I'd rather have our health care not for profit then have insurance middleman cartels standing in the way. Fuck them and Stephen Helmsley.

 

[dviss1]

Try reading the article. And people were getting along just fine without Govt. issued healthcare. "let everybody die" LOL, smh. Putting more power in the Governments hands is not the way to go about running a free nation.

Yes, people do die because of lack of access to care. And that should not happen in a free Nation. I suppose we should just get rid of Medicare? No... we should expand Medicare so that we can all have it.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I'd rather have our health care not for profit then have insurance middleman cartels standing in the way. Fuck them and Stephen Helmsley.

What would you do with all the jobs lost if we got rid of the insurance workers though?

 

[3RA1N1AC]

What would you do with all the jobs lost if we got rid of the insurance workers though?

jobs become irrelevant all the time due to technology or streamlining. gone the way of the switchboard operator.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

jobs become irrelevant all the time due to technology or streamlining. gone the way of the switchboard operator.

I agree. However, it still is an issue to consider. It's not as easy as people make it sound. Especially when people would blame the gov't for it.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I agree. However, it still is an issue to consider. It's not as easy as people make it sound. Especially when people would blame the gov't for it.

i can definitely see the insurance companies playing on peoples sympathies for the workers.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I agree. However, it still is an issue to consider. It's not as easy as people make it sound. Especially when people would blame the gov't for it.

Hey at least those dirty asshole insurance workers would have govt mandated healthcare when they lose their jobs! That's all that matters after all.

 

[dviss1]

What would you do with all the jobs lost if we got rid of the insurance workers though?

There is still private insurance in those countries as well. Think of all the employees that we would add in the healthcare industry. Lots of those insurance industry jobs transfer over. The insurance industry has too many jobs anyway. I don't see anybody arguing that we need as many lawyers as we have.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

There is still private insurance in those countries as well. Think of all the employees that we would add in the healthcare industry. Lots of those insurance industry jobs transfer over. The insurance industry has too many jobs anyway. I don't see anybody arguing that we need as many lawyers as we have.

Hold on good sir... So, when these workers transfer over they work for the govt correct? Well, that's another cost on the people's dime, is it not?

 

[dviss1]

Hold on good sir... So, when these workers transfer over they work for the govt correct? Well, that's another cost on the people's dime, is it not?

To be honest I don't much care about insurance industry jobs. I care more about the people that are dying because we're continuing to use that middle man cartel.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

To be honest I don't much care about insurance industry jobs. I care more about the people that are dying because we're continuing to use that middle man cartel.

The government is responsible for a lot of the problems this "middle man cartel" created though.

 

[blue32]

Hold on good sir... So, when these workers transfer over they work for the govt correct? Well, that's another cost on the people's dime, is it not?

lol.... and to add, one does not simply just 'transfer' over from private sector to the government..

 

[blue32]

To be honest I don't much care about insurance industry jobs. I care more about the people that are dying because we're continuing to use that middle man cartel.

Lol this is ironic.