Put Pritchard on blast

[Fez Hammersticks]

Vent.

*Brandon Roy runs the offense and has the ball in his hands a lot. The backcourt mate should be able to shoot as Brandon is a drive and dish guard. So, what does KP do? He goes out and gets a drive and dish PG who can't shoot. This is nothing against Miller, who is a very good PG, but he's just the wrong fit.

*Has an unhealthy man-crush on Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake. "His boys" and this friendship has cost this team some pretty good deals. The father figure/homie relationship has to stop and be more about the business. After all, that's what the NBA is.

*Collects talent with disregard to playing time, fit, and chemistry.

*Failed to do something with RLEC, a freaking goldmine of a chip. Epic failure.

 

[blue32]

blah, more of this? No offense, but its everywhere on every thread now.

We know what the problems are, lets see if they can fix them in the next couple of games....

 

[RR7]

If point #1 is an issue, than I would think point #2 is not, as his unhealthy man crush on Steve Blake seems to be exactly what you want at the PG position. Why the contradiction? Seems his man crush is good because he has found the ideal fit for Roy, according to you. A PG who can shoot, which Steve can do very well.

I am assuming that #3 is related to #1. Otherwise, I can't see who he has brought in that has not fit in with the team, and has created bad chemistry with the team. Or otherwise has created issues about playing time.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Steve Blake is not a starting calibur PG. He's off-and-on with his shot and can't defend, one-dimensional. He'd be a good backup PG, I'll give you that.

 

[RR7]

He's one of the better 3 point shooters in the league. What makes him not starting caliber, then? You said we need a shooter. That's what you put Pritchard on blast for. Who else do you want there?

 

[Nikolokolus]

He's one of the better 3 point shooters in the league. What makes him not starting caliber, then? You said we need a shooter. That's what you put Pritchard on blast for. Who else do you want there?

Does that mean Kyle Korver is a starting small forward now? How about JJ Reddick?

 

[RR7]

Does that mean Kyle Korver is a starting small forward now? How about JJ Reddick?

Well, if I was to present an argument that a SF who handles the ball and pushes the tempo slightly didn't fit, and what we really needed alongside Roy was just a guy who can shoot, then you can put forth the argument that Korver is a starting SF. I wouldn't want him starting there for me, personally. I also don't want Blake starting for us. I want Miller starting, and I think they can co-exist just fine.

 

[Minstrel]

I only want to run Roy out of town, not Pritchard. I want to build this team around Pritchard and Miller. And Blake, of course...you can't have Pritchard without Blake.

 

[EWT]

If point #1 is an issue, than I would think point #2 is not, as his unhealthy man crush on Steve Blake seems to be exactly what you want at the PG position. Why the contradiction? Seems his man crush is good because he has found the ideal fit for Roy, according to you. A PG who can shoot, which Steve can do very well.

I am assuming that #3 is related to #1. Otherwise, I can't see who he has brought in that has not fit in with the team, and has created bad chemistry with the team. Or otherwise has created issues about playing time.

Well said, even though RR7 completely blew your reasoning out of the water with this, who is THE perfect starting point guard for this team then in your mind?

 

[Buzz Killington]

Imaginary Cap Space.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Well said, even though RR7 completely blew your reasoning out of the water with this, who is THE perfect starting point guard for this team then in your mind?

Chucky Atkins, Pooh Jeter, or Bobby Jackson.

 

[MIXUM]

didnt i say these things last march? now the bulb went on?

 

[oldguy]

didnt i say these things last march? now the bulb went on?

Yeah, I think you did. It was right after you said there was NO WAY the Blazers would make the playoffs without a mid-season trade, right? So, we should put stock in what you say because.....?

 

[LittleAlex]

Well said, even though RR7 completely blew your reasoning out of the water with this, who is THE perfect starting point guard for this team then in your mind?

This is an excellent question. Given any current point guard in the league I would say Tony Parker would be the best possible fit. This is mostly because I don't think more 3 point shooting is what this team actually needs. They need a guy who can get into the lane at will and can thrive on the free throw line. Further he can play decent perimeter d.

Also, Parker is used to playing with Manu who does alot of his damage by creating off the dribble.

Mo Williams, Delonte West, and Devin Harris are others who would fit well.

Least perfect point guards: J Kidd, Nash, and Baron Davis of the current starters would be bad choices for the same reason Miller was.

 

[RR7]

This is an excellent question. Given any current point guard in the league I would say Tony Parker would be the best possible fit. This is mostly because I don't think more 3 point shooting is what this team actually needs. They need a guy who can get into the lane at will and can thrive on the free throw line. Further he can play decent perimeter d.

Also, Parker is used to playing with Manu who does alot of his damage by creating off the dribble.

Mo Williams, Delonte West, and Devin Harris are others who would fit well.

Least perfect point guards: J Kidd, Nash, and Baron Davis of the current starters would be bad choices for the same reason Miller was.

How is Miller a bad choice, but Harris and Parker would be good choices? Sure, I would like Harris and Parker more based on age and talent, but as for style, I'd like an explanation of how they are so much different than Miller where they would be your ideal fits, and Miller the opposite.

 

[Uther TheGardener]

how about removing the roy+nate batman and superman!

 

[jlprk]

*Brandon Roy runs the offense and has the ball in his hands a lot. The backcourt mate should be able to shoot as Brandon is a drive and dish guard. So, what does KP do? He goes out and gets a drive and dish PG who can't shoot. This is nothing against Miller, who is a very good PG, but he's just the wrong fit.

*Has an unhealthy man-crush on Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake. "His boys" and this friendship has cost this team some pretty good deals. The father figure/homie relationship has to stop and be more about the business. After all, that's what the NBA is.

*Collects talent with disregard to playing time, fit, and chemistry.

*Failed to do something with RLEC, a freaking goldmine of a chip. Epic failure.

Pritchard rules through charisma, and we see him through the prism of the over-impressed Oregonian. From his statements, he is apparently buddies with the players, and his emotional attachments make it hard to make trades.

Miller was 3rd choice. (Actually he was lower, if you include the players Pritchard didn't make an offer to, only because time ran out while waiting for responses from Hedo and Milsap.) Anyone would do, since the race was on to use up Paul Allen's money.

Pritchard didn't have a multi-tasking backup plan going during the wait for Hedo and Milsap. Not expecting failure, he didn't time his 2 offers to get other players to stay on hold, and they couldn't wait while he dithered with his 2 failed offers. While the rumors (of other teams' moves) flew fast and furious, and then firmed into their realized transactions (grabbing the best available players), he insulated himself, fibbing while he waited on each of the 2 offers, that he'd be perfectly happy if he accomplished nothing this summer. When he emerged from his bunker, he went for all that was left, a guard who isn't an outside shooter (Miller's a good shooter closer up). Anyway, that's why Pritchard got a guard who doesn't quite match Roy.

(I won't go into, why does everyone have to match with Roy? Is he that 1-dimensional and inflexible? Why can't he be the one to change?) ...And "epic failure" is an understatement for the LaFrentz non-acquisition.

 

[RR7]

Technically couldn't make any other offers while the Milsap offer was pending.

 

[LittleAlex]

How is Miller a bad choice, but Harris and Parker would be good choices? Sure, I would like Harris and Parker more based on age and talent, but as for style, I'd like an explanation of how they are so much different than Miller where they would be your ideal fits, and Miller the opposite.

Both have always been much faster then Miller and better finishers then he ever will be. In the case of Parker he as played both with and without the ball with good results.

They are also somewhat better defensively. Parker is the dream choice since he is also a vet with championship experiance.

Harris is in the running due to his speed and youth.

Miller has a good post up game and can get into the lane to some degree. But he isn't in the same class as Parker in points in the paint.

 

[RR7]

Both had a similar breakdown the last two years as far as close shots versus jump shots. I still don't see in terms of actual FIT and style, how you lump Miller in with Davis and Nash, and not with Harris and Parker. The only drawback being he is older, but his style is similar to theirs.

 

[andalusian]

Both had a similar breakdown the last two years as far as close shots versus jump shots. I still don't see in terms of actual FIT and style, how you lump Miller in with Davis and Nash, and not with Harris and Parker. The only drawback being he is older, but his style is similar to theirs.

Harris, at least in his Dallas days, was a great defender. That's where he is a better fit than Andre.

Parker - I think, is a much better scorer than Andre - but I might be wrong.

 

[axs88]

Miller was 3rd choice. (Actually he was lower, if you include the players Pritchard didn't make an offer to, only because time ran out while waiting for responses from Hedo and Milsap.) Anyone would do, since the race was on in order to use up Paul Allen's money.

Pritchard didn't have a multi-tasking backup plan going during the wait for Hedo and Milsap. Not expecting failure, he didn't time his 2 offers to get other players to stay on hold, and they couldn't wait while he dithered with his 2 failed offers. While the rumors (of other teams' moves) flew fast and furious, and then firmed into their realized transactions (grabbing the best available players), he insulated himself, fibbing while he waited on each of the 2 offers that he'd be perfectly happy if he accomplished nothing this summer. When he emerged from his bunker, he went for all that was left, a guard who isn't an outside shooter (Miller's a good shooter closer up). Anyway, that's why Pritchard got a guard who doesn't quite match Roy.

OK, that may be true, but who exactly are all these free agents he missed out on while waiting that would have been better fits? I can only think of Odom, and he was not seriously considering leaving LA. David Lee was concerned about PT. Sessions he still could have had if he wanted him. You're saying he missed out on Brandon Bass/McDyess etc.? I don't think backup 4 was our biggest priority unless that meant getting BPA or a blue chipper to form a future 3-man rotation up front (Millsap, Lee).

 

[RR7]

Harris, at least in his Dallas days, was a great defender. That's where he is a better fit than Andre.

Parker - I think, is a much better scorer than Andre - but I might be wrong.

D seemed to be a throw in at the end of his paragraph on Parker's fit, and most of the discussion of fit with our PG tends to the offensive side of the ball. Look, I would obviously pefer Parker to Miller, as well as Harris. But I'm not getting where either has a much different style to their game than Miller does, where they are deemed in the good fit category, and Miller is included in worst possible fit.

Sure Parker is a better scorer. He also has a usage rate equal to Brandon Roy's. So now, people will complain that Miller is ball dominant, and thus doesn't fit with Roy, but that all of a sudden doesn't apply to Parker? If the worry is a ball dominant guard alongside Roy, than parker is a much worse fit.

Devin Harris' usage was on par with Roy's as well. So let's give Miller the same usage, and tell me his numbers won't look every bit as good as theirs do. Because statistically, and stylistically, he is on par.

Again, I would take them both over him, but completely opposite styles somehow, in regards to fit? No.

 

[jlprk]

There were a few others. I was highest on Odom because 1) he could fill 2 needs (SF, backup PF) instead of acquiring 2 separate players, and because 2) we would be severely injuring our rival, the Lakers, instead of the Jazz (Milsap), who won't really threaten us in the standings. There were other players taken by other teams while Pritchard had to wait on his offers.

 

[andalusian]

D seemed to be a throw in at the end of his paragraph on Parker's fit, and most of the discussion of fit with our PG tends to the offensive side of the ball. Look, I would obviously pefer Parker to Miller, as well as Harris. But I'm not getting where either has a much different style to their game than Miller does, where they are deemed in the good fit category, and Miller is included in worst possible fit.

That's why I said I was not sure about Parker.

Devin Harris' usage was on par with Roy's as well. So let's give Miller the same usage, and tell me his numbers won't look every bit as good as theirs do. Because statistically, and stylistically, he is on par.

I do not think his usage was that high in Dallas - that's why I mentioned his Dallas performance. I agree with you that I do not think play D-Harris as he does in NJ next to Roy is going to work great.

 

[axs88]

There were a few others. I was highest on Odom because 1) he could fill 2 needs (SF, backup PF) instead of acquiring 2 separate players, and because 2) we would be severely injuring our rival, the Lakers, instead of the Jazz (Milsap), who won't really threaten us in the standings. There were other players taken by other teams while Pritchard had to wait on his offers.

Care to name them? My point is, this wasn't a good year for FAs, I guess he should have used the cap space in a trade instead, but he certainly didn't miss out on anyone siginificant while waiting on Hedo/Millsap.

I really liked Odom as well, we reportedly pursued him but he wasn't interested.

 

[RR7]

Right, his usage wasn't that high, but stylistically, he was the same player he is now. Good finisher, can get to the basket. Not that good of a shooter. It's part of why I don't understand why peopel clamor for him, but say that Bayless can't fit here.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

who is THE perfect starting point guard for this team then in your mind?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Eric Gordon = OJ Mayo

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Gordon is Bayless if Bayless could shoot. Scoring, defense, shooting. He'd be perfect next to Roy.