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Mark Jones just said we have the Civil War left.
Love it!
 
Ducks tend to business and get the win. Beavers continue to piss away what started as a promising season.
 
AldoTrapani said:
It’s not even that look at the way we play. I’d rather watch paint dry. Just so boring and methodical. QB play is trash too. Christobal is a fantastic recruiter but he’s a garbage X and Os coach
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You’d rather watch losses? Haha you’re a goof troop.

Cristobal has the Ducks as a top 3 team in the nation despite a shit quarterback.

What a loser mentality you have there.
 
MickZagger said:
You’d rather watch losses? Haha you’re a goof troop.

Cristobal has the Ducks as a top 3 team in the nation despite a shit quarterback.

What a loser mentality you have there.
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All I’m saying is that Christobal is not a great football coach. He’s an excellent recruiter that beats up on a shitty conference with superior talent. The Ohio state game was signature but he blows more stinkers than wins legit big games against top opponents. Herbert inflated his stats as well… He’s better than Helfrich tho by a long shot
 
AldoTrapani said:
All I’m saying is that Christobal is not a great football coach. He’s an excellent recruiter that beats up on a shitty conference with superior talent. The Ohio state game was signature but he blows more stinkers than wins legit big games against top opponents. Herbert inflated his stats as well… He’s better than Helfrich tho by a long shot
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What “stinkers” has he blown?
 
wizenheimer said:
I wonder if there will be any repurcussions for this:



punching one of your players in the face is over the top
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And he was preaching to his players to control their emotions, not to high or low.
Bet his ass gets fired at end of season if not before.
 
Hoopguru said:


Mario stood in the rain for both half's and he look like the driest guy out there.
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i said the same thing watching the game! Same with his assistant with the stache. I mentioned they must have a drone umbrella hovering over them just off camera. Lol.
 
One thing Ive noticed about Mario when his players get hurt he's there on the field checking in and last night when Walk got hurt Mario helped him off the field.
 
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AldoTrapani said:
All I’m saying is that Christobal is not a great football coach. He’s an excellent recruiter that beats up on a shitty conference with superior talent. The Ohio state game was signature but he blows more stinkers than wins legit big games against top opponents. Herbert inflated his stats as well… He’s better than Helfrich tho by a long shot
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he has a 33-10 record at Oregon. Chip Kelly is the only Duck coach with a better record, and Kelly inherited an extremely talented team from Bellotti (it was just about all Bellotti recruits in the 2-deep on the team Chip took to the title game against Auburn), while MC had to build his talent after the Helfrich years and the recruiting losses cause by the fast departure of Taggart the Snake. Chip also was able to catch lightning in a bottle because of tempo and spread. His 46-7 is proof of that because after Oregon, his record was 28-35 in the NFL and is now 15-25 at UCLA. He owes a hell of a lot to Mike Bellotti

Cristobal's teams have played in 2 Pac-12 championship games as underdogs, and won both rather convincingly. He's taken teams to 3 bowl games as the underdog, and has a 2-1 record there, including beating Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl.

the only real blemish on his record was last year's Covid season. But the Ducks had more missed practices and games from health protocols that any other Pac-12 team. They were also at a disadvantage because of the opt-outs that season of Penei Sewell, Jevon Holland, Thomas Graham, and Brady Breeze. I think you can give that season at least a partial asterisk

but again, MC's record at Oregon is a lot better than you're giving him credit for

winning percentage:

Mario Cristobal (Oregon) .767 (4-1 in post-season)
Don James (Washington) .712 (10-4 in post-season)
Chris Peterson (Washington) .679 (4-4 in post season)
Mike Bellotti (Oregon) .678 (6-6 in post-season)
Terry Donahue (UCLA) .665 (8-4-1 in post-season)

that's a pretty damn good start for MC and he's doing better than 4 coaches that just about everybody would call really good, if not great. As usual, your narrative doesn't fit reality
 
Hoopguru said:


Mario stood in the rain for both half's and he look like the driest guy out there.
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I saw that video. I think you can see why Mario's players love him. On the other hand, Thibodeaux will probably get some pushback from the coaching staff for posting that video. That was an in-house post-game speech
 
Buffalo Custard said:
This season's Stanford game? Turns out they aren't even that good a team, but they made the Ducks look bad.
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Stanford didn't make the Ducks look bad...the Ducks made themselves look bad with self inflicted wounds. That gave the officials an opportunity to fuck over a team with their incompetence, and Pac-12 officials rarely let that opportunity pass by

by the way, because of health protocols the current Stanford team is missing something like 25 players, including 10 starters and the starting QB from the team that beat the Ducks in OT
 
wizenheimer said:
Stanford didn't make the Ducks look bad...the Ducks made themselves look bad with self inflicted wounds. That gave the officials an opportunity to fuck over a team with their incompetence, and Pac-12 officials rarely let that opportunity pass by

by the way, because of health protocols the current Stanford team is missing something like 25 players, including 10 starters and the starting QB from the team that beat the Ducks in OT
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Saying the Ducks made themselves look bad is not exactly a defense of the coach!
 
Buffalo Custard said:
Saying the Ducks made themselves look bad is not exactly a defense of the coach!
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how many teams go undefeated in a season? No Duck team ever has. Good teams don't have good losses

and if you want to see my defense of this coach it was earlier in this thread
 
wizenheimer said:
how many teams go undefeated in a season? No Duck team ever has. Good teams don't have good losses

and if you want to see my defense of this coach it was earlier in this thread
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I'm not sure what you are saying here.

OK, let me flip the question around. Outside of the OSU game, which wins did you find impressive?
 
Buffalo Custard said:
I'm not sure what you are saying here.

OK, let me flip the question around. Outside of the OSU game, which wins did you find impressive?
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They held UCLA's run game to a halt, when they led the conference in rushing.
They did the same at OSU.
Last night they held Huskies to the fewest yards since 2010.
Mario is in his what 3rd/4th year as a new head coach and he's got probably the youngest team in the conference now.
I agree in that Stanford they laid an egg.
Nobody expected them to contend for a playoff spot this year, its the next 2-3 years.
 
Buffalo Custard said:
I'm not sure what you are saying here.

OK, let me flip the question around. Outside of the OSU game, which wins did you find impressive?
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In Cristobal's career?

2018:

against #7 Washington (30-27)
@ #24 Cal (42-24)
@ OSU (55-15)
Michigan State in Red Box Bowl (7-6)

2019:

@ Stanford (21-6)
@ #25 Washington (35-31)
@ USC 56-24
OSU (24-10)
Pac-12 Championship against #5 Utah (37-15)
Rose Bowl against #11 Wisconsin (28-27)

2020:

@ WSU (43-29)
@ USC in Pac-12 championship Game (31-24)

2021:

@ tOSU (35-28)...yeah, I know you said besides this one, but I'll mention it again
@ UCLA (34-31)
@ Washington (26-16)

obviously, I must have different standards for "impressive" than you do, but I've been a Duck fan since before 1970 so I'm mindful of situation, history, rivalries, and expectations. And the trap games that show up on the schedule every year
 
What about if Westbrook played against the Ducks?
 
wizenheimer said:
In Cristobal's career?

2018:

against #7 Washington (30-27)
@ #24 Cal (42-24)
@ OSU (55-15)
Michigan State in Red Box Bowl (7-6)

2019:

@ Stanford (21-6)
@ #25 Washington (35-31)
@ USC 56-24
OSU (24-10)
Pac-12 Championship against #5 Utah (37-15)
Rose Bowl against #11 Wisconsin (28-27)

2020:

@ WSU (43-29)
@ USC in Pac-12 championship Game (31-24)

2021:

@ tOSU (35-28)...yeah, I know you said besides this one, but I'll mention it again
@ UCLA (34-31)
@ Washington (26-16)

obviously, I must have different standards for "impressive" than you do, but I've been a Duck fan since before 1970 so I'm mindful of situation, history, rivalries, and expectations. And the trap games that show up on the schedule every year
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I was refering to this season. UCLA is 5-4. UW is 4-5. A top 10 team should be blowing those guys out. Then there was the near disaster against Cal.

I am aware of the history. The last game I attended at Autzen featured Norv Turner was QB. You can't sink much lower then that. The Ducks are light years ahead of where they were in the 70s. That has nothing to do with my opinion that the Ducks aren't as good as they were 2 seasons ago, despite the constant drumbeat about their "great recruiting". Either the talent is over-rated or the coaches aren't getting the most out of them.

Simple question: do you think the Ducks are going to run the table and/or win the Pac?
 
Buffalo Custard said:
Simple question: do you think the Ducks are going to run the table and/or win the Pac?
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run the table?...no

win the Pac-12? maybe

I think the Ducks were overrated by CFP committee and that they have way too many injuries to starters, especially on defense. Like HG said, they are the youngest team in the conference and one of the youngest in the nation. This was not expected to be their year, and the 4 remaining games (assuming a North title) will all be very difficult. Too difficult to run the table IMO. Next week will be a huge trap game. WSU will have had 2 weeks to prepare and they are a good team with a pretty dynamic offense and probably the best QB in the conference

and beating Utah, in Utah, will be a huge challenge....they are an underrated, well coached team. And the Civil War is rarely easy
 
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