Question for all the OLD farts on board

[Yankeefan5545]

That '80 season saw the Yankees blow a huge lead over Baltimore (8 games If I remember) then got swept by Baltimore 3 straight at the stadium then lost 3 of 5 down in Baltimore. Billy Martin and the A's rode to the rescue by sweeping Baltimore either 3 or 4 straight and that may have saved the season. Yankees won by three over Baltimore. That play in game two of the ALCS with Ferraro sending Randolph into an out and eventual game loss did not help. Yankees swept by a team that they had previously beaten three times, George got Ferraro and Howser for one failed season and series.

 

[Majorball]

1. Letting Reggie go. (Mistake)
2. Trading Buhner for Phelps (Mistake)
3. Trading Kelly for O'Neill (Glad I was wrong on that one).
4. Passing up Jack Morris' discount (Mistake)
5. Passing up Carlos Beltran's discount (mistake)
6. Letting Pettitte go after 2003 (Mistake)
7. Signing Dave Collins (Mistake)
8. Signing the Goose after Lyle was the Cy Young (Glad I was wrong about that)
9. Firing Dick Howser after he won 103 games (Mistake)
10. The last 3 Billy Martin hires (Really?)

And add getting Mickey Rivers and Ed Figueroa from the Angels for Bobby Bonds...

 

[Yankeefan5545]

Best posting yet Vette, good going, why in the hell did Dick Howser get fired, any one know?

That '80 season Yanks blew and 8 game lead to Baltimore, Orioles swept them at the stadium then took 3 of 5 in Baltimore a couple series later. Finished 3 games ahead in the end, if Billy Martin and the A=s hadn't have come in and swept Baltimore the season may have turned different. Game 2 of the KC Series was not good when Ferraro made that fatal mistake of sending Randolph to tie the game. Yankees swept by a team they had beaten 3 times previously with Gossage giving up that bomb in game three. No wonder George was pi@@ed, he got Ferrara and Howser at the same time. I did not particularly agree with Georges actions but that is the way the ball bounced. Oddly enough Hower managed the Kansas City team that beat Whitey Herzogs Cardinals.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

That '80 season Yanks blew and 8 game lead to Baltimore, Orioles swept them at the stadium then took 3 of 5 in Baltimore a couple series later. Finished 3 games ahead in the end, if Billy Martin and the A=s hadn't have come in and swept Baltimore the season may have turned different. Game 2 of the KC Series was not good when Ferraro made that fatal mistake of sending Randolph to tie the game. Yankees swept by a team they had beaten 3 times previously with Gossage giving up that bomb in game three. No wonder George was pi@@ed, he got Ferrara and Howser at the same time. I did not particularly agree with Georges actions but that is the way the ball bounced. Oddly enough Howser managed the Kansas City team that beat Whitey Herzogs Cardinals.

Howser managed the same Team, Whitey had previously left behind, those KC Royals...Herzog, Howser, and Bobby Cox share another common thread, other than Cox and Herzog are in the HOF... All 3 at one time were traded for by the NY Yankees. And/or traded away.

All 3 had anemic batting averages, and never caught on.

Utility, Players, who are rarely used to start and play a full season, often have turned into some of the greatest of coaches, as most have said, they learned the trade of how to play and Manage the games, by sitting for years, watching coaching moves for years.
The likes include, Walt Alston, Bobby Cox, Dick Howser, Tony LaRussa, Whitey Herzog, and the Blimpie Tommy Lasorda. Of course many more can be on this list.

Bobby Coxecember 7, 1967: Traded by the Atlanta Braves to the New York Yankees for Dale Roberts and Bob Tillman.

Dick Howser: December 20, 1966: Traded by the Cleveland Indians to the New York Yankees for Gil Downs (minors) and cash.

April 2, 1956: the New York Yankees sent Whitey Herzog to the Washington Senators to complete an earlier deal made on February 8, 1956. February 8, 1956: The New York Yankees sent a player to be named later, Lou Berberet, Herb Plews, Dick Tettelbach and Bob Wiesler to the Washington Senators for Bobby Kline and Mickey McDermott.

 

[Rick2583]

Howser managed the same Team, Whitey had previously left behind, those KC Royals...Herzog, Howser, and Bobby Cox share another common thread, other than Cox and Herzog are in the HOF... All 3 at one time were traded for by the NY Yankees. And/or traded away.

All 3 had anemic batting averages, and never caught on.

Utility, Players, who are rarely used to start and play a full season, often have turned into some of the greatest of coaches, as most have said, they learned the trade of how to play and Manage the games, by sitting for years, watching coaching moves for years.
The likes include, Walt Alston, Bobby Cox, Dick Howser, Tony LaRussa, Whitey Herzog, and the Blimpie Tommy Lasorda. Of course many more can be on this list.

Bobby Coxecember 7, 1967: Traded by the Atlanta Braves to the New York Yankees for Dale Roberts and Bob Tillman.

Dick Howser: December 20, 1966: Traded by the Cleveland Indians to the New York Yankees for Gil Downs (minors) and cash.

April 2, 1956: the New York Yankees sent Whitey Herzog to the Washington Senators to complete an earlier deal made on February 8, 1956. February 8, 1956: The New York Yankees sent a player to be named later, Lou Berberet, Herb Plews, Dick Tettelbach and Bob Wiesler to the Washington Senators for Bobby Kline and Mickey McDermott.

I was just going to post something about this, I guess great minds think alike. Yeah both Howser & Cox sucked as hitters. And only Downs surprised me never making it to the big dance because he had a very respectable minor league career.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

I was just going to post something about this, I guess great minds think alike. Yeah both Howser & Cox sucked as hitters. And only Downs surprised me never making it to the big dance because he had a very respectable minor league career.

Yes, GREAT MINDS do think alike......touche Rick...!!! Give yourself a pat on the back for me, oh forget the back, that hurts, give one on the shoulder then...

Hell, I can't reach my back, shoulder won't allow it, so I'll have Kim give me several. shit nothing like being conceited (my bad on my part)...I don't deserve a pat on the back, Kim says more a KICK IN THE ASS is warranted. Oh dear-!