Quick says look for a trade on draft night for a center

[magnifier661]

If Greg would come back for like 2 million per year, I would do it, but anything more is a gamble that isn't worth taking.

This is what I'm thinking. At least show us one year to see if he's the guy of past or a new start. Must sign him for 3 years though; so we can still have his bird rights.

 

[Further]

Ok, trying to think out of the box

LA might have Howard leave and decide to amnesty Kobe. If the do that, they are just throwing in the towel to start a rebuild, but they still have Pau Gasol at 19mil for one season. If the Blazers traded Freeland and Sasha, and used all their cap room, they could get Gasol in an uneven trade. After next season, Gasol's contract would be over but Blazers would have bird rights to sign him to a better contract. I believe MDA and Howard hurt a still very valuable player in Pau.

Thoughts?

 

[magnifier661]

Ok, trying to think out of the box

LA might have Howard leave and decide to amnesty Kobe. If the do that, they are just throwing in the towel to start a rebuild, but they still have Pau Gasol at 19mil for one season. If the Blazers traded Freeland and Sasha, and used all their cap room, they could get Gasol in an uneven trade. After next season, Gasol's contract would be over but Blazers would have bird rights to sign him to a better contract. I believe MDA and Howard hurt a still very valuable player in Pau.

Thoughts?

Don't know about gasol. Grabbing completely eats any and all cap space we have. That would be a huge mistake IMO.

 

[Further]

Don't know about gasol. Grabbing completely eats any and all cap space we have. That would be a huge mistake IMO.

But if Pau was still as good as he was in the Olympics, he would be an incredible match next to LMA. And the starting unit would be solid to great at every position.

Still need to use the pick or trade it for adding to the bench, then Olshey would have to do some magic to get some decent options at the vet min.

But, can you think of a better option to mentor Meyers Leonard?


I'm not sure i do it, but I would certainly think hard about it.

 

[magnifier661]

But if Pau was still as good as he was in the Olympics, he would be an incredible match next to LMA. And the starting unit would be solid to great at every position.

Still need to use the pick or trade it for adding to the bench, then Olshey would have to do some magic to get some decent options at the vet min.

But, can you think of a better option to mentor Meyers Leonard?


I'm not sure i do it, but I would certainly think hard about it.

Just seems more of a move like older gm's. what we need are groups of assets or that superstar. Right now I just don't see Gasol as the superstar we need.

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

Or, because they have a very frugal owner, they won't pay big dollars to more than a couple of guys. They can replace what Jordan does for them with a cheaper veteran who likes the prospect of the playoffs each year.

Chris Paul, Blake Griffin both will be ~max players soon.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Or, because they have a very frugal owner, they won't pay big dollars to more than a couple of guys. They can replace what Jordan does for them with a cheaper veteran who likes the prospect of the playoffs each year.

Chris Paul, Blake Griffin both will be ~max players soon.

This summer

 

[Natebishop3]

Olshey strikes me as someone that swings for the fences. I really wouldn't be surprised to hear that he was going after Howard.

 

[julius]

Olshey strikes me as someone that swings for the fences. I really wouldn't be surprised to hear that he was going after Howard.

Well, if there's anyone who can pull it off, it's Kevin Pritchar...wait, I mean, Neal Olshey.

 

[Natebishop3]

Well, if there's anyone who can pull it off, it's Kevin Pritchar...wait, I mean, Neal Olshey.

If Howard is happy playing for a shitty team in one of the biggest markets, so be it.

I'm just curious if there is another team out there with a talented, young, comparable core to the Blazers (with cap space)?

If I was looking for a team to win a championship, I would see Aldridge, Lillard, and Batum and think I could win with that.

 

[julius]

If Howard is happy playing for a shitty team in one of the biggest markets, so be it.

I'm just curious if there is another team out there with a talented, young, comparable core to the Blazers (with cap space)?

If I was looking for a team to win a championship, I would see Aldridge, Lillard, and Batum and think I could win with that.

i agree that young talent wise, there isn't a better setup for Howard to come, but I honestly don't think he's interested in winning. Otherwise, he would sign with Houston.

 

[Natebishop3]

i agree that young talent wise, there isn't a better setup for Howard to come, but I honestly don't think he's interested in winning. Otherwise, he would sign with Houston.

Houston wouldn't be a bad place for him either, and Daryl Morrey is quite possibly the best GM in the league. If I had to make a choice between the two teams, it would be tough. Houston is the warmer climate, it's a bigger market, and they have arguably the best shooting guard in the game right now.

 

[jlprk]

Reading all the mediocre names in this thread, and the speculation about whether they would play here, makes me appreciate a good player who really wants to be here...Hickson.

 

[julius]

Houston wouldn't be a bad place for him either, and Daryl Morrey is quite possibly the best GM in the league. If I had to make a choice between the two teams, it would be tough. Houston is the warmer climate, it's a bigger market, and they have arguably the best shooting guard in the game right now.

Well, remember this is honkeyville, and all black people hate Portland.

If I was Dwight, I'd pick between Portland and Houston, although to go to Portland I'd have take a bigger paycut than Houston.

And to be honest, I'd have to think long and hard about going to Houston. More money, young talent, and a huge city.

 

[e_blazer]

If Howard is happy playing for a shitty team in one of the biggest markets, so be it.

I'm just curious if there is another team out there with a talented, young, comparable core to the Blazers (with cap space)?

If I was looking for a team to win a championship, I would see Aldridge, Lillard, and Batum and think I could win with that.

Howard made $19.6 mil this year and I don't see him taking less. The Blazers don't have $20 mil in cap space, so it would have to involve some sort of a salary dump (Wesley for a pick?) or a sign and trade with the Lakers. Somehow, I don't see them as being overly cooperative.

 

[jlprk]

Face it. Our top FA signing will be someone worse than Hickson.

 

[julius]

Howard made $19.6 mil this year and I don't see him taking less. The Blazers don't have $20 mil in cap space, so it would have to involve some sort of a salary dump (Wesley for a pick?) or a sign and trade with the Lakers. Somehow, I don't see them as being overly cooperative.

they can still do a S&T (and I say that not in a "I'm delusional and think this could happen", but in a sense of thats how it is always done).

I'm with jlprk, the free agent signing is going to be bland. And until Olshey can prove otherwise, I have no reason to believe otherwise.

 

[jlprk]

I not only think Hickson would accomplish more at PF than Aldridge.

I think Hickson would accomplish more at SF than Batum.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I not only think Hickson would accomplish more at PF than Aldridge.

I think Hickson would accomplish more at SF than Batum.

$50 bucks the blazers do better next year without hickson and with whoever they get to replace him

 

[Natebishop3]

Well, remember this is honkeyville, and all black people hate Portland.

If I was Dwight, I'd pick between Portland and Houston, although to go to Portland I'd have take a bigger paycut than Houston.

And to be honest, I'd have to think long and hard about going to Houston. More money, young talent, and a huge city.

Not much of a paycut. I think the word is that Portland will have around 13 million. I think the most a team can offer a UFA is 14, am I wrong? But I'm not going to argue with you about our city. There's not much of a black community here. It would take some selling from Dame and LMA.

Howard made $19.6 mil this year and I don't see him taking less. The Blazers don't have $20 mil in cap space, so it would have to involve some sort of a salary dump (Wesley for a pick?) or a sign and trade with the Lakers. Somehow, I don't see them as being overly cooperative.

I don't think we, or anyone outside of LA, can offer more than 14 or 14.5 I think. So either he will sign somewhere else outright, or they will have to do a sign-and-trade.

 

[RR7]

I think max salary, I'll double check in a second, but I am pretty sure it is still based off of a percentage of previous year's salary.

 

[e_blazer]

Not much of a paycut. I think the word is that Portland will have around 13 million. I think the most a team can offer a UFA is 14, am I wrong? But I'm not going to argue with you about our city. There's not much of a black community here. It would take some selling from Dame and LMA.



I don't think we, or anyone outside of LA, can offer more than 14 or 14.5 I think. So either he will sign somewhere else outright, or they will have to do a sign-and-trade.

No, you're wrong there. The maximum salary for a player is never less than 105% of his prior salary, so teams having the cap space can offer Howard in excess of $20 mil.

 

[Natebishop3]

No, you're wrong there. The maximum salary for a player is never less than 105% of his prior salary, so teams having the cap space can offer Howard in excess of $20 mil.

Does anyone have that much space?

 

[RR7]

Does anyone have that much space?

Atlanta, Charlotte's close, Cleveland, Dallas is close, Detroit, Houston with some creativity, Milwaukee is close, NO, Phoenix is close, we're close, Utah.

And am guessing either a few of these that are close, or a few not mentioned, can get there by finding a team with space that know they aren't going to get Dwight(most the teams above) to take on a salary of theirs

 

[e_blazer]

The most likely spots for him to go outside of LA are the Mavs & Rockets. They both can have in excess of $20 mil in cap space to sign him.

 

[jlprk]

$50 bucks the blazers do better next year without hickson and with whoever they get to replace him

No bet because we'll do a little better due to Olshey filling the bench with better substitutes instead of a preplanned tank season.

But we will miss Hickson's effort whenever our new frontline players imitate the lethargy of Aldridge and Batum.

 

[Natebishop3]

The most likely spots for him to go outside of LA are the Mavs & Rockets. They both can have in excess of $20 mil in cap space to sign him.

The Mavs have an absolute shit team though. Houston would make sense because they have Harden and a few other young guys. Most of the teams that have cap space have very little talent. It would be Howard carrying the load by himself. Maybe that's what he wants.

 

[Rhal]

No, you're wrong there. The maximum salary for a player is never less than 105% of his prior salary, so teams having the cap space can offer Howard in excess of $20 mil.

Actually your wrong, Max contracts are a % of the available cap space.

The maximum amount of money a player can sign for is contingent on the number of years that player has played and the total of the salary cap. The maximum salary of a player with 6 or fewer years of experience is either $9,000,000 or 25% of the total salary cap (2010–11: $14,511,000), whichever is greater. For a player with 7–9 years of experience, the maximum is $11,000,000 or 30% of the cap (2010–11: $17,413,200), and for a player with 10+ years of experience, the maximum is $14,000,000 or 35% of the cap (2010–2011: $20,315,400).[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap
http://www.nba.com/.element/mp3/2.0/sect/podcastmp3/PDF/CBA101.pdf

Dwight has only been in the league for 9 years so he will be getting 30% of the cap.

 

[Natebishop3]

Actually your wrong, Max contracts are a % of the available cap space.

The maximum amount of money a player can sign for is contingent on the number of years that player has played and the total of the salary cap. The maximum salary of a player with 6 or fewer years of experience is either $9,000,000 or 25% of the total salary cap (2010–11: $14,511,000), whichever is greater. For a player with 7–9 years of experience, the maximum is $11,000,000 or 30% of the cap (2010–11: $17,413,200), and for a player with 10+ years of experience, the maximum is $14,000,000 or 35% of the cap (2010–2011: $20,315,400).[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap
http://www.nba.com/.element/mp3/2.0/sect/podcastmp3/PDF/CBA101.pdf

Dwight has only been in the league for 9 years so he will be getting 30% of the cap.

I saw that too, but then there's this:

"A free agent's maximum salary in the first year of a new contract is never less than 105% of his salary in the last year of his previous contract. For example, a ten-year veteran free agent who most recently earned $20 million has a maximum salary of at least $21 million, even if that is above the league-wide maximum. A free agent does not need to remain with the same team in order to receive 105% of his previous salary, although the team that signs him is subject to the same salary cap restrictions as with any other free agent."

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q16

 

[e_blazer]

I'd be surprised if the Blazers don't take a stab at trying to get Howard. They would have to clear some salary in order to do it, but it could be done. Nic could probably be off-loaded to the T-Wolves or some other team in an unequal trade. Wesley is a possibility. Could get in the right neighborhood by unloading Freeland and Claver. We'd have another season with a really thin bench, but you'd have to take a shot at it. I'm not going to hold my breath over for a successful courtship, however.