Quick.... wizards most likely trading partner

[MIXUM]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2010/01/blazers_podcast_with_jason_qui_6.html

around 19 mark

theres a point where quick gets a little uptight about a question who the blazers were looking to move... interesting listen.

have had "extended talks"

 

[Luther]

Nobody tells Quick anything. It's hilarious how he tries to act like he knows SO much but can't say anything. Why would KP tell Jason Quick anything about potential trades? It just doesn't make sense.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Nobody tells Quick anything. It's hilarious how he tries to act like he knows SO much but can't say anything. Why would KP tell Jason Quick anything about potential trades? It just doesn't make sense.

You're thinking about the wrong end of the transaction. Reporters typically talk to agents and other personal contacts around the league to get the "pulse" of what's going on with the team they cover.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Nobody tells Quick anything. It's hilarious how he tries to act like he knows SO much but can't say anything. Why would KP tell Jason Quick anything about potential trades? It just doesn't make sense.

It's like when Crapzano states, "many people are saying"- it really means, "I'm clueless and am digging for a response".

We have the worst media coverage in the country.

 

[Stevenson]

You guys are the ones talking out your ass. You may not like Canzano's take or muckraking, but he happens to be an excellent writer, and one recognized as such by his peers.

Quick too clearly does his homework, and that would mean talking to a lot more people than the local GM.

Duh.

 

[Nikolokolus]

You guys are the ones talking out your ass. You may not like Canzano's take or muckraking, but he happens to be an excellent writer, and one recognized as such by his peers.

Quick too clearly does his homework, and that would mean talking to a lot more people than the local GM.

Duh.

+1

Just because some of you don't like Quick's style (I hate it!) doesn't mean he doesn't have sources.

 

[THE HCP]

Quick knows more then Canzano, but that's not saying much. The only 2 games I've seen Canzano at all year was the Laker and Cavs game.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Canzano's interviewed up here on KJR every once in a while, and actually is a good interview. When he writes about human interest stories, he gets the story across well and I usually enjoy them. When he writes about his basketball opinions, he's not even up to the knowledge level of the average poster in here, and doesn't acknowledge that he's either wrong or has been corrected.

I liked the access that Quick got last year, not so much that he used it to write about bomb-dropping rather than, say, how LMA and Roy could let their relationship fester for a year before coming together. If someone could let a perceived slight like that affect their chemistry in the locker room, I can understand why a) veterans who come in find it hard to gel at first and b) why KP might have something to this "midseason trades disrupt chemistry" thing. But that's neither here nor there. Why aren't those kinds of questions being asked? We know that Roy at least will answer pretty bluntly about how he feels.

I'm not trying to be snarky, but I literally cannot remember the last time Quick actually broke something about a signing or trade that ended up happening that wasn't overtly fed to him by Blazer PR. For all Barrett's homerism, at least he knew (and said it on Courtside like a week before the deadline) last year that we weren't making a trade, even when 95% of the known basketball world thought we were.

 

[Luther]

You guys are the ones talking out your ass. You may not like Canzano's take or muckraking, but he happens to be an excellent writer, and one recognized as such by his peers.

Quick too clearly does his homework, and that would mean talking to a lot more people than the local GM.

Duh.

Nobody is giving Quick any kind of "inside information". Give me a break. Agents and other GMs have much more important things to deal with than fielding phone calls from our local beat writer. Canzano is a little higher on the totem pole but he still isn't going to get the calls REAL NBA writers get when there is something in the works.

 

[Natebishop3]

Nobody is giving Quick any kind of "inside information". Give me a break. Agents and other GMs have much more important things to deal with than fielding phone calls from our local beat writer. Canzano is a little higher on the totem pole but he still isn't going to get the calls REAL NBA writers get when there is something in the works.

Quick broke the Sheed trade. He knew before Rice and Wheels. I was sitting in Tony Roma's when Quick got the phone call from Sheed's agent. He does have inside info. I've seen it with my own eyes.

 

[Luther]

Quick broke the Sheed trade. He knew before Rice and Wheels. I was sitting in Tony Roma's when Quick got the phone call from Sheed's agent. He does have inside info. I've seen it with my own eyes.

Well that certainly makes him an important man.

 

[Natebishop3]

Well that certainly makes him an important man.

He does have sources. That's the point.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I hope it's one of two players:

*Brendon Haywood
*JaVale McGee

 

[Luther]

Javale McGee only makes sense if Joel doesn't come back...We don't really need another project to work on. Haywood would be great.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Javale McGee only makes sense if Joel doesn't come back...We don't really need another project to work on. Haywood would be great.

I've been thinking quite a bit about Joel and his future with the team; with the nature of his injury and the timetable for his return possibly being mid-season next year I wonder just what KP has in mind for the center position next season. Joel will almost certainly opt in to the final year of his contract, but next season he'd make a pretty attractive expiring contract and as much as people want Joel to retire a Blazer I'm starting to doubt that's going to be in the cards.

If they trade for Haywood and retain his bird rights and offer him a contract that he's willing to accept, I can think of a lot worse center tandems than (healthy) GO and Brendan Haywood.

 

[maxiep]

Quick knows more then Canzano, but that's not saying much. The only 2 games I've seen Canzano at all year was the Laker and Cavs game.

Was he wearing his K*be jersey?

 

[hasoos]

You're thinking about the wrong end of the transaction. Reporters typically talk to agents and other personal contacts around the league to get the "pulse" of what's going on with the team they cover.

Yep that, and sometimes they have a few front office contacts who will divulge info under the radar.

 

[Blaze01]

Jamison AND Haywood

 

[hasoos]

Jamison AND Haywood

That would completely rock. 20 rebounds a game incoming? Holy shiZni!T!

 

[RR7]

And almost 17 million in salaries coming in. One of Joel or Miller would almost have to be included to make that work. And for Washington, they can allow Haywood to expire, and could probably trade Jamison for Ilgauzkus' expiring. Why take on 6.8 of Joel next season?

 

[hasoos]

And almost 17 million in salaries coming in. One of Joel or Miller would almost have to be included to make that work. And for Washington, they can allow Haywood to expire, and could probably trade Jamison for Ilgauzkus' expiring. Why take on 6.8 of Joel next season?

Because one if helping an in conference team, and one is not. If Jamison goes to a contender, you don't want to face him several times per season.

 

[RR7]

I'm sure they'd take 7 million dollars over having to face Antawn Jamison 2 extra times a year.

 

[hasoos]

I'm sure they'd take 7 million dollars over having to face Antawn Jamison 2 extra times a year.

I think they are looking for some talent in return. It's not all about expiring contracts.

 

[RR7]

Then joel at 7 million, and injured, and being an expiring the following year, and 30 likely isn't the talent they are looking to get back either.

 

[hasoos]

Then joel at 7 million, and injured, and being an expiring the following year, and 30 likely isn't the talent they are looking to get back either.

Maybe they want a little of both. Maybe they want both expiring contracts and talent. Draft picks are also in the equation. If you make a trade that you think makes you a contender for years to come, those 1st round draft picks aren't so important for the next few years. If I was Washington, I would ask for expiring contracts, some young cheap talent, and maybe a pick or two to build with. Since they are going to be rebuilding anyhow, they probably want to stockpile picks.

 

[RR7]

I agree, that is what I would ask for as well. And in order for us to equal salary amounts, we are throwing in parts(Joel or Andre) that don't fit towards either of those goals. If they traded Jamison for Z, JJ Hickson, and Cleveland's first, they get a pick, a late one, but still, a pick, a young player, and an expiring. If they trade him to us, we're unlikely to want to include any of Batum, Bayless, Fernandez. So you're adding in Joel for one, so they are taking on extra salary, and then giving them a late pick, better than Cleveland's but still late, and a prospect like Cunningham or Mills. Both of who Hickson is probably better than. Our package doesn't look as nice.

Just saying going for Haywood and Jamison makes a package much mroe difficult, and not as attractive to Washington as other teams can likely give them.

 

[hasoos]

I agree, that is what I would ask for as well. And in order for us to equal salary amounts, we are throwing in parts(Joel or Andre) that don't fit towards either of those goals. If they traded Jamison for Z, JJ Hickson, and Cleveland's first, they get a pick, a late one, but still, a pick, a young player, and an expiring. If they trade him to us, we're unlikely to want to include any of Batum, Bayless, Fernandez. So you're adding in Joel for one, so they are taking on extra salary, and then giving them a late pick, better than Cleveland's but still late, and a prospect like Cunningham or Mills. Both of who Hickson is probably better than. Our package doesn't look as nice.

Just saying going for Haywood and Jamison makes a package much mroe difficult, and not as attractive to Washington as other teams can likely give them.

Yes but we have other pieces. Like a guy named Claver.....just throwing it out there. Not sure how much he is worth, to tell the truth.

 

[RR7]

Right, but again, is Claver, to them, worth 7 million dollars? I understand they get Joel out of it as well, if he is healthy toplay, but that's a big chunk of change for a rebuilding club to pay for an unknown prospect.

 

[hasoos]

Right, but again, is Claver, to them, worth 7 million dollars? I understand they get Joel out of it as well, if he is healthy toplay, but that's a big chunk of change for a rebuilding club to pay for an unknown prospect.

He would have to be a "chunk" of a bigger trade. All we can do is "throw our lure" and see if the Wiz bite. The worst thing that happens is, nothing.

 

[Idog1976]

Aldridge for Jamison and Haywood or Jamison and McGee? We can throw in Blake too. Aside from Nate, Aldridge is the weak link on this team. Jamison and McGee/Haywood would really solidify the frontline especially if we can keep Pendergraph and Cunningham. I have finally lost faith in LMA ever being what we need. If he can't coexist with OR without Oden on the floor then there is a problem and I don't want to hear about out of position play. I've seen Kindergartners who "get in the paint" more the LMA.

I'd also be interested in Caron if we could get him.

P.S. someone called me on it so let me be clear. I wouldn't REALLY trade LMA for Jamison, but I might pretend to if I were KP to send LMA a message that he needs to step it up.