Quick's article on Dame (and I believe why we will win)

[Rhal]

I'm a huge fan of Lillar, and I think he has a lot of room to grow. But Curry's numbers are far, far better than Lillar's. Steph is a much better shooter, it's not even close.

Steph year 3 - 49% FG, 45.5% 3pt shooting. I'll take 18.6 pts off of those percentages than Lillar's 21 ppg off 43.4% FG and a very poor 34% from 3 anyday. Lillar's three pt shooting has regressed to a career low. He's not even close to being as good a shooter as Steph, and on the defensive end the gap is even worse.[\B]

You had me until this rediculous statement.

 

[MarAzul]

cherry picked stats

Well I would call is metadata rather than your term. But here is one for you, Curry is the Cats meow with his .443 with the three ball. Our own Meyers Leonard put them in at a .42 clip.
Give me a PM the next time you see Lillard get him the ball for an assist. That last two times I saw him go for pass to Meyers, he bounced it to him, hitting him close to the knee. I really don't want to think about what going on here. Perhaps that is cherry picking, or small sample or what have you.

 

[magnifier661]

Well I would call is medadata rather than your term. But here is one for you, Curry is the Cats meow with his .443 with the three ball. Our own Meyers Leonard put them in at a .42 clip.
Give me a PM the next time you see Lillard get him the ball for an assist. That last two times I saw him go for pass to Meyers, he bounced it to him, hitting him close to the knee. I really don't want to think about what going on here. Perhaps that is cherry picking, or small sample or what have you.

So explain to me how the three point % has anything to do with your argument about Dame being a facilitator?

 

[Roger Templeton]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Steph in year 3 only played 23 games. I'll take Lillard's 21 ppg for 82 games over what point you just failed to make.

Okay I will take Steph's far superior shooting in year 2 over Lillard's third year in the league.

eta - Whoops, meant Lillar**

 

[Roger Templeton]

You had me until this rediculous statement.

Have you seen Steph play defense this year? Ignoring the 2 steals a game (because that is not a good measure of on ball defense, you can get those picking passing lanes), he is actually a pretty good defender, and far better than Lillar
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12648764/how-stephen-curry-developed-top-flight-defender

 

[Rhal]

Have you seen Steph play defense this year? Ignoring the 2 steals a game (because that is not a good measure of on ball defense, you can get those picking passing lanes), he is actually a pretty good defender, and far better than Lillar
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12648764/how-stephen-curry-developed-top-flight-defender

Yea iv watched a lot of GS and Curry isnt horrible but he isnt good either. He is miles better then he was last year but I read it as you were trying to make it out like Lillard is what Harden was on D last year and Curry is Courtney Lee. Two things that are very wrong.
Also Ethan Sherwood Strauss is about the biggest warriors homer around. Its a lot easir to look compatent on D when you have two all D players and both who have a case for Defensive player of the year and another superb defender oj the floor with you and another great wing defender in Iggy who comes off the bench.

 

[magnifier661]

Okay I will take Steph's far superior shooting in year 2 over Lillard's third year in the league.

eta - Whoops, meant Lillar**

He missed a lot of games his second year too. Also, Lillard had better stats than Curry in his second year

 

[Roger Templeton]

He missed a lot of games his second year too. Also, Lillard had better stats than Curry in his second year

Curry played 74/82 games his second year. His stats were better than Lillar's. I will take 18.6 ppg on 48% shooting and 44.2% from three than Lillar's 43.4% FG and a crappy 34% from three. Curry has always been better than Lillar. It is what it is. Many former players and legends have said Steph is the greatest shooter of all time.

I don't expect Lillar to ever shoot like Curry, I'm just disputing your point that Lillar's progression year by year is better than Curry's was. He is not the shooter or has the talent that Curry did and does. What I want to see from Lillar is spending an offseason working on defense technique and also improving his shot selection. 34% is just bad, and the decline in his 3pt% is because he takes bad shots. If he can make these two changes, he could be the second or third best PG in the league. Right now he gets outplayed by guys like Mike Conley who shot like 50% from the field and just under that from 3pt land, while Lillar shot in the 20%s from three against Conley.

He is not a top 5 PG RIGHT NOW imo for that reason. You can't lose your position matchup to guys that you are supposedly better than.

 

[MarAzul]

improving his shot selection. 34% is just bad, and the decline in his 3pt% is because he takes bad shots.

Ha! Welcome to the board Roger, but you have to know, Basketball fans are not in demand here, Blazer fanatics are welcome. Basketball fans suffer the same fate as the One Eyed Man in the Valley of the Blind.

 

[magnifier661]

Curry played 74/82 games his second year. His stats were better than Lillar's. I will take 18.6 ppg on 48% shooting and 44.2% from three than Lillar's 43.4% FG and a crappy 34% from three. Curry has always been better than Lillar. It is what it is. Many former players and legends have said Steph is the greatest shooter of all time.

I don't expect Lillar to ever shoot like Curry, I'm just disputing your point that Lillar's progression year by year is better than Curry's was. He is not the shooter or has the talent that Curry did and does. What I want to see from Lillar is spending an offseason working on defense technique and also improving his shot selection. 34% is just bad, and the decline in his 3pt% is because he takes bad shots. If he can make these two changes, he could be the second or third best PG in the league. Right now he gets outplayed by guys like Mike Conley who shot like 50% from the field and just under that from 3pt land, while Lillar shot in the 20%s from three against Conley.

He is not a top 5 PG RIGHT NOW imo for that reason. You can't lose your position matchup to guys that you are supposedly better than.

Wrong! Dame can count from 100,000,000-0 in less than 3 minutes!

 

[H.C.]

Ha! Welcome to the board Roger, but you have to know, Basketball fans are not in demand here, Blazer fanatics are welcome. Basketball fans suffer the same fate as the One Eyed Man in the Valley of the Blind.

Hi Mark Jackson.

 

[riverman]

Damian Lillard on multiple occassions has said Curry is the best in the NBA. That should answer the question but guyslike Chauncey Billups took longer to find their complete game than Dame has with what he's accomplished in his first 3 seasons. I have huge respect for Dame's game and he will only get better

 

[Roger Templeton]

Damian Lillard on multiple occassions has said Curry is the best in the NBA. That should answer the question but guyslike Chauncey Billups took longer to find their complete game than Dame has with what he's accomplished in his first 3 seasons. I have huge respect for Dame's game and he will only get better

Chauncey Billups became a great defender. Lillard can and will become a great player if he commits to defense. Dude is a killer.