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riverman said:
I used to argue with Denny here about independent thought and cut and paste arguments....one uses media as an argument...the other uses their own brain and weighs the information around the topic.
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If your argument is that one party uses their own brains while the other party doesn't, that is an obvious fallacy.

If not, you'll have to explain.
 
Road Ratt said:
If your argument is that one party uses their own brains while the other party doesn't, that is an obvious fallacy.

If not, you'll have to explain.
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It wasn't an argument about partisan politics..Denny and I voted for the same candidate...it was about topics of controversy and how we discuss them....cutting and pasting to make a point is in fact letting the media make a point...forming your own opinion and stating it is a different tactic....doesn't matter what party you register with....that's not the point I make...I agree with you that the media can attract mob mentality and many people are shallow and uninformed ...my point is that intelligent people use filters when it comes to media marketing whether political or choosing to consume anything....media can help a cause, it can also hurt one but we need not be victimized over it
 
riverman said:
It wasn't an argument about partisan politics..Denny and I voted for the same candidate...it was about topics of controversy and how we discuss them....cutting and pasting to make a point is in fact letting the media make a point...forming your own opinion and stating it is a different tactic....doesn't matter what party you register with....that's not the point I make...I agree with you that the media can attract mob mentality and many people are shallow and uninformed ...my point is that intelligent people use filters when it comes to media marketing whether political or choosing to consume anything....media can help a cause, it can also hurt one but we need not be victimized over it
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Ah I see.

I wish I could agree. The problem is, we all use filters depending on our party affiliation. That affiliation helps most people to override their normal logic filters, and end up with a conclusion that matches their parties beliefs. In my opinion, once you "buy the team", you defend it. A persons political/religious/social/etc. bias is a filter most people can't get past.
 
riverman said:
Jimmy Carter is a good man but as president bowed to pressure from China to remove Taiwan from the United Nations and remove our embassy from the true democracy in Taiwan....Nixon was before Carter and Kennedy was assasinated in office so I think your view of presidential turmoil is a bit skewed timewise.....we've always had problems but they can't be compared with what we're witnessing today in govt...my 2 cents and only my opinion. The age of McCarthyism was one of the most corrupt in our history as well....I grew up in the 50s during that era...Truman could have stopped the cold war before it started but the commie witchhunt fever was really popular then
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Hey, I'm older than you and all I can remember of McCarthy is he was in the news often and when he was he was speaking into a microphone. I was way too young to understand what he was all about. I mean Edward R. Murrow was a news moderator for crying out loud and then Douglas Edwards. You can't tell me you recall anything from the Korean War. Good grief, I was still playing cowboys and Indians with my cap gun.
 
Lanny said:
Hey, I'm older than you and all I can remember of McCarthy is he was in the news often and when he was he was speaking into a microphone. I was way too young to understand what he was all about. I mean Edward R. Murrow was a news moderator for crying out loud and then Douglas Edwards. You can't tell me you recall anything from the Korean War. Good grief, I was still playing cowboys and Indians with my cap gun.
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All I remember of my cap gun was a high misfire rate. Very disappointing to shoot someone and have them not even hear it.

barfo
 
Lanny said:
Hey, I'm older than you and all I can remember of McCarthy is he was in the news often and when he was he was speaking into a microphone. I was way too young to understand what he was all about. I mean Edward R. Murrow was a news moderator for crying out loud and then Douglas Edwards. You can't tell me you recall anything from the Korean War. Good grief, I was still playing cowboys and Indians with my cap gun.
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History is written my friend....I remember black and white tv...we only watched a few times a week and it was usually the news...my dad and all my relatives were big cold war advocates for anti commie propoganda and very comfortable with all that white privilege....the times change but the cameras record alot of stuff along the way. I remember the McCarthy era...Soupy Sales...Groucho Marx ..and Mickey Mantle....imagine that...I watched the yankees with my dad in the late 50s...still can name the team even though I was 6 years old at the time.
 
barfo said:
I wonder why my mother didn't check the Internet before buying me the cap gun?
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The Sears catalog was the consumer side of the internet back then. I bet she just grabbed something from the corner store. Mothers just don't understand the value of a properly researched cap gun.
 
Minstrel said:
The Sears catalog was the consumer side of the internet back then. I bet she just grabbed something from the corner store. Mothers just don't understand the value of a properly researched cap gun.
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The result of growing up in a broken home. I'm sure my dad would have gotten me a better cap gun.

This incident was probably the root cause of all my problems, I can see that now.

Thank you, this has saved me years of therapy.

barfo
 
Road Ratt said:
Everyone has their own news sources nowadays. Corporate media news (CNN, MSNBC and Fox) all teach you to hate other peoples viewpoints. So everyone is intolerant of other peoples positions.
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I dont get this. Yes, for sure, media is biased, no argument. But how about I can listen with my own two ears what comes out of Trump, DeSantis, Cruz, Gaetz, McConnell, Pence, Palin, and the list goes on, mouths, and make a pretttttty simple and easy decision that they are all batshit crazy pieces of dogshit? Or no, CNN is cramming it down my throat?
 
calvin natt said:
I dont get this. Yes, for sure, media is biased, no argument. But how about I can listen with my own two ears what comes out of Trump, DeSantis, Cruz, Gaetz, McConnell, Pence, Palin, and the list goes on, mouths, and make a pretttttty simple and easy decision that they are all batshit crazy pieces of dogshit? Or no, CNN is cramming it down my throat?
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Maybe you like to hate, all on your own. :lollipop:
 
riverman said:
History is written my friend....I remember black and white tv...we only watched a few times a week and it was usually the news...my dad and all my relatives were big cold war advocates for anti commie propoganda and very comfortable with all that white privilege....the times change but the cameras record alot of stuff along the way. I remember the McCarthy era...Soupy Sales...Groucho Marx ..and Mickey Mantle....imagine that...I watched the yankees with my dad in the late 50s...still can name the team even though I was 6 years old at the time.
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Joe P 1st
Bobby R 2nd
Clet B 3rd
Tony K SS
Elston H Catcher.......Yogi on ocassion
Mantle, CF Maris RF and Tresh LF
Whitey F Pitch

Late 50's
 
Hoopguru said:
Joe P 1st
Bobby R 2nd
Clet B 3rd
Tony K SS
Elston H Catcher.......Yogi on ocassion
Mantle, CF Maris RF and Tresh LF
Whitey F Pitch

Late 50's
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bingo! Whitey Ford was my dad's favorite player...I had all their baseball cards and my brother used them in the spokes of his bike when I was in the navy and ruined them
 
wizenheimer said:
as if you'd spend a penny or a minute on therapy when the world still has beer
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Right, but I will have to start therapy when the beer runs out - at least now the lack of beer will be only trauma to work through.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Right, but I will have to start therapy when the beer runs out - at least now the lack of beer will be only trauma to work through.

barfo
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I spent a lot of years of my life trying to drink all the beer and I never made a dent...except on my van
 
riverman said:
History is written my friend....I remember black and white tv...we only watched a few times a week and it was usually the news...my dad and all my relatives were big cold war advocates for anti commie propoganda and very comfortable with all that white privilege....the times change but the cameras record alot of stuff along the way. I remember the McCarthy era...Soupy Sales...Groucho Marx ..and Mickey Mantle....imagine that...I watched the yankees with my dad in the late 50s...still can name the team even though I was 6 years old at the time.
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I remember before TVs of any kind. We listened to a lot of radio and had more than one tuner to get a station.
The people you mention, You Bet Your Life, Soupy Sales, Micky Mantle came much later than McCarthy. I remember them and what they did but do not recall McCarthy except he was some character talking into a microphone in front of a lot of people including some seated directly across and somewhat above.
 
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