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SlyPokerDog said:
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I've actually been watching that stuff. I don't want that piece of crap for free. While watching these videos I saw this from a guy in Vegas.

I would have like to have this for a project before it got to the pic a part. It could have actually been cool with a ton of work.

 
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@bodyman5000 and 1 what do you think of the honda civic 2020 sport?
Also this might be a dumb question.
These new manual transmissions as reliable as the older transmissions?
I've tried googling that but only could find information on automatic v cvt c manual.
 




Don’t know if these are specifically relevant, but I enjoy this crazy person’s videos. He’s is actually quite knowledgeable, despite possibly being drunk.
 
H.C. said:
@bodyman5000 and 1 what do you think of the honda civic 2020 sport?
Also this might be a dumb question.
These new manual transmissions as reliable as the older transmissions?
I've tried googling that but only could find information on automatic v cvt c manual.
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I have no idea if the trans is going to be more or less reliable than the older manuals but I would buy the manual version all day long. I believe the Honda CVT is better than say the Nissan garbage but I still wouldn't buy one.

My two biggest gripes with new Hondas are silly for most people. The panel gaps are terrible now and they often make minor suspension rattles as if a brake pad or something was loose.

My wife's 2010 civic was an old turd compared to these new ones. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a new manual civic if I were you.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I have no idea if the trans is going to be more or less reliable than the older manuals but I would buy the manual version all day long. I believe the Honda CVT is better than say the Nissan garbage but I still wouldn't buy one.

My two biggest gripes with new Hondas are silly for most people. The panel gaps are terrible now and they often make minor suspension rattles as if a brake pad or something was loose.

My wife's 2010 civic was an old turd compared to these new ones. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a new manual civic if I were you.
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Tuesday the 10th I went and grabbed this from Salem.
2020 civic sport manual.
I refused to do an automatic.
Just hoping the transmission is as strong as previous cars I've had. Simply because I much prefer down shifting to slow down, rather than riding the breaks.
 

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H.C. said:
Just hoping the transmission is as strong as previous cars I've had. Simply because I much prefer down shifting to slow down, rather than riding the breaks.
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I honestly do not understand this behavior. The brakes are designed to stop the car and are cheaper to replace pads if needed than fixing an engine / transmission. Unless you drive an old car and love to hear the backfire (My old Alfa makes wonderful noise that way) - the brakes are there for a reason and easy to modulate to slow the car. Per usual, YMMV.
 
andalusian said:
I honestly do not understand this behavior. The brakes are designed to stop the car and are cheaper to replace pads if needed than fixing an engine / transmission. Unless you drive an old car and love to hear the backfire (My old Alfa makes wonderful noise that way) - the brakes are there for a reason and easy to modulate to slow the car. Per usual, YMMV.
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Manual transmissions last much longer than automatics in almost every case. Less gears and less shifting=less wear and tear. Replace a clutch instead of brakes and entire transmissions. There is nothing wrong with downshifting to decrease speed. If it’s good enough for a loaded down 18-wheeler then it’s got to be good enough for a light car.
 
andalusian said:
I honestly do not understand this behavior. The brakes are designed to stop the car and are cheaper to replace pads if needed than fixing an engine / transmission. Unless you drive an old car and love to hear the backfire (My old Alfa makes wonderful noise that way) - the brakes are there for a reason and easy to modulate to slow the car. Per usual, YMMV.
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This. I have never replaced a clutch in any car I've owned if it had low miles on it when I got it.

I can change pads and rotors in an hour. The last clutch I ever did was in my 98 Z28 and my original clutch was fine, I wanted a Spec stage 3. Cuz racecar!
 
jonnyboy said:
Manual transmissions last much longer than automatics in almost every case. Less gears and less shifting=less wear and tear. Replace a clutch instead of brakes and entire transmissions. There is nothing wrong with downshifting to decrease speed. If it’s good enough for a loaded down 18-wheeler then it’s got to be good enough for a light car.
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Apples and oranges. 18 wheelers and cars are not even remotely the same.

I rarely downshift my car unless I want to pass someone. Coming up to a red light? Clutch in, shift to neutral and let clutch out. Every damn time. My gray focus has 200 plus thousand miles on it and had a clunky 2nd gear synchro when I got it. 25 thousand miles later and it is exactly as bad as when I bought it..no worse.
 
andalusian said:
I honestly do not understand this behavior. The brakes are designed to stop the car and are cheaper to replace pads if needed than fixing an engine / transmission. Unless you drive an old car and love to hear the backfire (My old Alfa makes wonderful noise that way) - the brakes are there for a reason and easy to modulate to slow the car. Per usual, YMMV.
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*shrugs* it's how I was taught by my grandfather.
Me being a good grandson didn't question his reasoning. Instead I listened and did as I was told.(which is one of the issues boomers have with millennials isn't it? They know it all.)
Now it's a habit. Sorry for not driving up to your standards. I'll try to be a better human and meet the lofty standards you set.:smack:
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Apples and oranges. 18 wheelers and cars are not even remotely the same.

I rarely downshift my car unless I want to pass someone. Coming up to a red light? Clutch in, shift to neutral and let clutch out. Every damn time. My gray focus has 200 plus thousand miles on it and had a clunky 2nd gear synchro when I got it. 25 thousand miles later and it is exactly as bad as when I bought it..no worse.
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eh. I drove a 95 integra to 340k+ and never had an issue with the clutch/tranny.
When I sold it the only thing wrong was a blown head gasket(didn't have the time for that job) because I unlike most people you deal with actually take care of my vehicles.
I was just curious if you knew how the new trannys were holding up. I agree with you I wouldn't touch the CVT trannys. I've heard they go out quite often.

Speaking of people who don't take care of their vehicles.
Someone close to me asked me to check the air in their tires. Their air pressure was 12lbs..... Which means they were missing 23lbs of pressure in all four tires.
Come to find out they had a flat tire. Who woulda thunk. This person also hadn't checked their fluid levels in four years. Not smart. I'm sure you deal with this type of car owner all the time. And have many, many worse stories.
 
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H.C. said:
Sorry for not driving up to your standards. I'll try to be a better human and meet the lofty standards you set.:smack:
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I have no standards for other people's personal business - I honestly do not care how people drive as long as it is not like idiots around me - I just do not think it makes much sense from a logical point - as in, it is protecting the cheap parts (brake pads etc...) with the expensive parts (drive train).

If you are happy, good on you and I am 100% behind you enjoying yourself. I just do not think it is a logical decision.
 
H.C. said:
eh. I drove a 95 integra to 340k+ and never had an issue with the clutch/tranny.
When I sold it the only thing wrong was a blown head gasket(didn't have the time for that job) because I unlike most people you deal with actually take care of my vehicles.
I was just curious if you knew how the new trannys were holding up. I agree with you I wouldn't touch the CVT trannys. I've heard they go out quite often.

Speaking of people who don't take care of their vehicles.
Someone close to me asked me to check the air in their tires. Their air pressure was 12lbs..... Which means they were missing 23lbs of pressure in all four tires.
Come to find out they had a flat tire. Who woulda thunk. This person also hadn't checked their fluid levels in four years. Not smart. I'm sure you deal with this type of car owner all the time. And have many, many worse stories.
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I wouldn't laugh at someone who likes downshifting. The kid who had my car before me autocrossed it and beat the shit out of it. I have been keeping an eye out for a low mile used trans close to me but the getrag in my car isn't common.

I would have to research what trans they are using and where it is made and what changes they've made over the years.

I suppose a Honda forum or Facebook group would be the best bet.

I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
 
jonnyboy said:




Don’t know if these are specifically relevant, but I enjoy this crazy person’s videos. He’s is actually quite knowledgeable, despite possibly being drunk.
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He's an idiot. His filthy fucking garage makes me sick. Guy buys tools over and over because they are lost in the hoard.
 
jonnyboy said:




Don’t know if these are specifically relevant, but I enjoy this crazy person’s videos. He’s is actually quite knowledgeable, despite possibly being drunk.
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I bought my wife a Civic Sport Touring with every bell and whistle last July. It’s a very nicely built car that handles beautifully and can haul ass when needed. The CVT automatic does take some serious getting used to, especially when going from a complete stop. Overall it’s an extremely nice little car with a lot of cool features. But why any one our age would want one is a conundrum. It’s practically scraping the ground and is a real bitch for an old guy to get in and out of. But my wife doesn’t seem to mind and she’s the one who chose it. And the dog finds it much easier to get in than my SUV. As long as those two ladies are happy.............
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I bought my wife a Civic Sport Touring with every bell and whistle last July. It’s a very nicely built car that handles beautifully and can haul ass when needed. The CVT automatic does take some serious getting used to, especially when going from a complete stop. Overall it’s an extremely nice little car with a lot of cool features. But why any one our age would want one is a conundrum. It’s practically scraping the ground and is a real bitch for an old guy to get in and out of. But my wife doesn’t seem to mind and she’s the one who chose it. And the dog finds it much easier to get in than my SUV. As long as those two ladies are happy.............
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Those Honda's are well built vehicles. My wife a couple years back wanted a Mini Cooper Convertible, got her a Nissan Altima instead, it has the CVT too. Been a great car and no problems with CVT.
 
jonnyboy said:
Manual transmissions last much longer than automatics in almost every case. Less gears and less shifting=less wear and tear. Replace a clutch instead of brakes and entire transmissions. There is nothing wrong with downshifting to decrease speed. If it’s good enough for a loaded down 18-wheeler then it’s got to be good enough for a light car.
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Speaking of Auto Tranny's, I used to give my boys ATF to use on their Pinewood Derby cars and they never lost a race, seriously. As it heat ups its gets slippery'er.
 
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